Roster Support over the past three years (Beane)

[Norcalbillsfan]

38 minutes ago, Brandon said:

 

The problem is,  in order to do that,  you have to take either Shakir or Kincaid off the field,  and they're both clearly better than Keon.   

 

That's one of the reasons I didn't like the pick at the time.  

I also think the issue is josh wants keon to be a thing so bad. People forget he told beane he liked keon and wanted him in the draft. I won't say the book is written but josh has given him a ton of back shoulder and red zone jump balls, what keon is supposed to be elite at and it hasn't produced much at all.

[Figster]

9 minutes ago, Norcalbillsfan said:

I also think the issue is josh wants keon to be a thing so bad. People forget he told beane he liked keon and wanted him in the draft. I won't say the book is written but josh has given him a ton of back shoulder and red zone jump balls, what keon is supposed to be elite at and it hasn't produced much at all.

Keon WTF?

 

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Figster

[LABILLBACKER]

1 hour ago, Norcalbillsfan said:

Finally, we are having this conversation 

Yup out of 16 players drafted these last 2 seasons, only 1 ( Walker) has had a good impact. That’s not only staggering but malfeasance. 

11 minutes ago, Norcalbillsfan said:

I also think the issue is josh wants keon to be a thing so bad. People forget he told beane he liked keon and wanted him in the draft. I won't say the book is written but josh has given him a ton of back shoulder and red zone jump balls, what keon is supposed to be elite at and it hasn't produced much at all.

Unfortunately in hindsight the player I wish Josh had wanted was Justin Jefferson. 

[billsfan714]

One thing I dont think can be argued is were not getting getting 19 million of production from Samuel and Palmer.  Thats a lot of buck and not much bang.   Dont worry Brandon thinks were solid.

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[Virgil]

3 minutes ago, billsfan714 said:

One thing I dont think can be argued is were not getting getting 19 million of production from Samuel and Palmer.  Thats a lot of buck and not much bang.   Dont worry Brandon thinks we’re solid.

Add Groot and Knox to that 

[billsfan714]

1 hour ago, paulmm3 said:

I would like to see the Bills shift away from their strategy of primarily selecting pre-draft visitors in the draft. I think it artificially limits the pool of talent they are selecting from which leads to selections in the draft that are not the most talented player available.

 

I also think Beane and company get too enamored with specific players and do too much trading of draft picks. You guys aren't that much smarter than all the other talent evaluators in the league and your specific players don't turn out to be better. Just stay put and take the highest consensus ranked guy at the position you need help at like a normal team.

Could not agree more.    

[cantankerous]

It’s disgusting to think we could have Worthy instead of Coleman. This is not a Super Bowl team. 

[Paup 1995MVP]

16 minutes ago, billsfan714 said:

One thing I dont think can be argued is were not getting getting 19 million of production from Samuel and Palmer.  Thats a lot of buck and not much bang.   Dont worry Brandon thinks were solid.

Samuel is ALWAYS injured.  So is Bernard.  So is Milano.  So is Daquan Jones..  So is Taron Johnson.  Kincaid has his best game as a Bill.  And now he was out tonite.  We are on our 3rd punter.  Our second kicker (one good thing so far from this season.)  Now Palmer is injured.  Why was Benford out for parts of tonite's game?  Bishop has missed most of the last two training camps.  Hairston has been out since training camp.  This team is always injured and has been a revolving door of mediocre to marginal players.  

 

Amari Cooper came in and broke his wrist.  Oliver plays well against the Ravens and hurts his ankle.  We don't have good starters at a lot of positions, especially on defense.  Let alone have good back ups.  We need guys who are tough solid bigger guys who can take some punishment.  

[billsfan714]

You dont 

15 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Add Groot and Knox to that 

You dont pay a 22 catch TE--the last 2 years, Knox money.   People want to say hes a good blocker, fine pay him blocker TE money.    Groot is turning into a guy with not elite speed or power, and though he did have a FG block, he also erased a huge turnover and is MIA in the rush way too often.    The DL is really only Bosa, Walker and Ed.

[stinky finger]

2 hours ago, wppete said:

Jackson Hawes has been a very productive player for a 5th Round pick. This year its only Walker and Hawes. 

Good point. Beane should be extended for that alone.

[Lionel Hutz]

The Bills are the Sabres if the Sabres had Connor McDavid. 
 

Beane and McDermott would have been gone long ago if they didn’t strike gold drafting Allen.

[Pete]

5 hours ago, Bangarang said:

Very productive? He's been a good blocker but in 6 games he has 4 catches for 54 yards and a TD. 

That’s not his bag- that’s bonus.  Hawes is a key component to our run game.  I bet you liked Alex Anderson’s role last year.  Anderson hardly sees the field, because Hawes is such a devastating blocker