Ghost_002! Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Mat68 said: I dont think you’re familiar with Vrabel. You think he wont have his team prepared? Quote
Boatdrinks Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said: THat's a back handed compliment. I don't think your defense was sleep walking out there. They (your defense) didn't let Diggs or Maye just go out there and make plays. Well yeah, they did. If not the Bills defense that let them make the plays , who was it ? Look the kid QB was pretty good. They put up 23 points against an average defense. The Bills turned the ball over and took a lot of undisciplined penalties. If they played their usual game and put up around 30 like they typically do they win. The QB looks like he can play and has a chance to be pretty good though. He’s far from elite but he’s got a shot. Quote
90sBills Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago I thought he was great. Made some impressive throws while showing poised under pressure. That last drive for the winning fg was stellar. With Vrabel coaching and McDaniel scheming plays Pats are ascending. With all that said I think the Saints will get them this week. Quote
pennstate10 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 59 minutes ago, Your Brown Eye said: He looked pretty good to me. His season stats are solid. His weapons are decent to goodish. I don't think anyone would say they are great or elite, so that moves him up in my book. Definitely appears he will be a thorn in the Bills' side for years to come. Will he be the thorn that is Jackson or Mahomes, maybe or maybe not, but last night showed his thorn is sharp enough to give the Bills an "L" when the Bills come out with a lackluster performance. They can no longer underestimate the Patriots, not with that QB and HC. Call me crazy, but I think he played better against Bills last night than Jackson ever has. Quote
PatsFanNH Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 minute ago, 90sBills said: I thought he was great. Made some impressive throws while showing poised under pressure. That last drive for the winning fg was stellar. With Vrabel coaching and McDaniel scheming plays Pats are ascending. With all that said I think the Saints will get them this week. Thats my fear! They are riding so high 2 huge wins in a row and the Saints look awful this year has let down game written all over it.. mind you I think I may bet on the Bills winning big this coming weekend.. they are gonna play mad 1 Quote
Sojourner Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 52 minutes ago, Yobogoya! said: Our secondary was 2/10. Tre in particular was 0/10 so I think that might have helped them along. Pretty much this. What’s even worse is the defensive line finally got some consistent pressure but the secondary had lapses and had them pretty much all game. Would be interested to see how much man coverage the Bills ran last night. 1 Quote
Ghost_002! Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 5 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Well yeah, they did. If not the Bills defense that let them make the plays , who was it ? Look the kid QB was pretty good. They put up 23 points against an average defense. The Bills turned the ball over and took a lot of undisciplined penalties. If they played their usual game and put up around 30 like they typically do they win. The QB looks like he can play and has a chance to be pretty good though. He’s far from elite but he’s got a shot. Your defense is not average. QB has to make the right reads and accurate throws, especially being constantly rush out of the pocket. And to not turnover the ball in a hostile environment. Edited 4 hours ago by Ghost_002! Quote
Success Posted 4 hours ago Author Posted 4 hours ago 15 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said: Wait until NE utilizes all that cap space next year. They will be adding a true #1 receiver, among other positions. I think this will be the final year Buffalo will be favored to win the division, and most of that will come down to coach/QB combos. To say it's the final year Buffalo will be favored to win the division - well, that's somethin'. Quote
Boatdrinks Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 minute ago, Ghost_002! said: Your defense is not average. QB has to make the right reads, and right accurate throws, especially being constantly rush out of the pocket. And to not turnover the ball in a hostile environment. The Bills D is a pretty average unit. They gave up around what they usually do. That’s to the likes of Tua and Spencer Rattler. The Bills offense threw up on their shoes and that was the difference last night. They usually give the Bills leads and cover up somewhat for the defense. Quote
Mark Vader Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Maye looks good, not great. He's improving. Make no mistake though, the officials were back and cozy Robert Kraft's pockets. The Cheatriots are back, and the NFL wants it that way. THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE! Quote
BillzFreak Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said: Your defense is not average. QB has to make the right reads and accurate throws, especially being constantly rush out of the pocket. And to not turnover the ball in a hostile environment. Lol going by just stats proves to me that you'd haven't watched this particular bills defense. They are not above average what so ever. You saw our starting cb 2 who couldn't cover anything. Our run defense has been probably the worst in the NFL. So yes be proud you're team came into Buffalo and got a big time win, but also know it wasn't against a good defense. Quote
PatsFanNH Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Success said: To say it's the final year Buffalo will be favored to win the division - well, that's somethin'. If the Pats finish at like 10 or 11 wins the Bills still be favored just not heavy favorites. Mind you I’d love see the Phins and Jets odds for the division if their years keep going this south 😂 Quote
Ghost_002! Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: The Bills D is a pretty average unit. They gave up around what they usually do. That’s to the likes of Tua and Spencer Rattler. The Bills offense threw up on their shoes and that was the difference last night. They usually give the Bills leads and cover up somewhat for the defense. But the Bills have "an average defense"? Ok. Quote
BillzFreak Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 2 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said: But the Bills have "an average defense"? Ok. How many rush yards did the saints put up...go check that stat 😂. Also they benched trey white in the saints game for the rookie who was just put on ir this week. Again context matters when just posting stats Edited 4 hours ago by BillzFreak Quote
Ghost_002! Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 2 minutes ago, BillzFreak said: How many rush yards did the saints put up...go check that stat 😂 He spoke about the QBs, I brought in stats of those particular QBs. And the Pats RBs didn't beat you. Edited 4 hours ago by Ghost_002! Quote
Success Posted 4 hours ago Author Posted 4 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said: But the Bills have "an average defense"? Ok. Are you trying to argue that we're above average? I think "average" is actually very generous for how this D has played so far this season. If you're not watching the games & just going by stats, you're kind of missing it. Quote
BillzFreak Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 minute ago, Ghost_002! said: He spoke about the QBs, I brought in stats of those particular QBs. And the Pats RBs didn't beat you. You're OB had a good game, but he is right this Bills defense is pretty average. No one's saying Maye won't turn into a elite player but the defense he played well against has major major flaws Quote
50yrpatsfan Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Maye will never be Allen, he's not as physical or as fast a runner, and that's what separates Allen. Maye's play style and talent level are that of Justin Herbert, those 2 guys are clones. Last night he rose to the occasion and made many big plays in the 2nd half. I think he was 13 of 14 for 188 yards with no turnovers or bad plays in the 2nd half, as the game went back and forth. Numerous 20 yard plays. It was a clean, excellent performance. Quote
Ghost_002! Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 8 minutes ago, Success said: Are you trying to argue that we're above average? I think "average" is actually very generous for how this D has played so far this season. If you're not watching the games & just going by stats, you're kind of missing it. See I know this message board too well. a lot of you overact to every little thing. I have watched Bills games. You're not a SB favorite and damn near unblemished if your defense is "just average". Do they break down every now and then, yea. It happens. But I think most outside of Buffalo think the Bills are believed to have a solid defense. Edited 4 hours ago by Ghost_002! Quote
PatsFanNH Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 4 minutes ago, BillzFreak said: How many rush yards did the saints put up...go check that stat 😂 I don’t get the love affair people have with total yards. Who cares if you give up 1000 yards what matters is points. The last 4 games the Bills D has averaged just over 18 points a game (18.25) that’s a good defense. I took the Ravens out because it was week 1 and well it was an O fist fight. But your D played well enough to win last night, the O turned it over 3 times 1 was inside the 20 and on turnovers gave up only 3 points.. what more could you ask? Last night was 2 D fighting hard and 1 coming up just short. Both are good and will only get better in time. Quote
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