How Good is Joe Brady?

[GASabresIUFan]

 

 

Click the link "watch on Youtube" for Cover1's video on how Brady is calling plays.  

 

 

[Nephilim17]

Haven't watched the vid yet but I'm impressed with the short pass and run games.

[Low Positive]

15 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:

 

 

Click the link "watch on Youtube" for Cover1's video on how Brady is calling plays.  

 

 

The best point in this video is that one of the reasons the running game is working so well is that heavy formations with 12 and 13 personnel are not pulling defenses out of cover 2. Because Josh Allen. 

[Mikie2times]

As Dorsey showed, any coordinator can have success with Allen. It just takes basic competency. Brady is having strong success. I don't know if that is enough for me to say he's really good or not. I'm not sure everybody eats elsewhere.  

Edited 52 minutes ago by Mikie2times

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

He stinks !!

[BillsShredder83]

3 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

The best point in this video is that one of the reasons the running game is working so well is that heavy formations with 12 and 13 personnel are not pulling defenses out of cover 2. Because Josh Allen. 

I'm really hoping that Brady can gameplan to get Hawes 1-2 targets a game against some of these lower grade teams!  I would LOVEEEEE to be able to put that on tape so that DC's cant start cheating up on him, and we can really keep them guessing.  I dont want it to just be a threat, would like to see them scheme some Play-action touches us up for the big fella.  Plus hes busting his arse, and would appreciate the touches

[GASabresIUFan]

2 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

I'm not sure everybody eats elsewhere.  

What do you mean by this?  Everyone eats is a cornerstone to GB's offense as well.  

 

8 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

The best point in this video is that one of the reasons the running game is working so well is that heavy formations with 12 and 13 personnel are not pulling defenses out of cover 2. Because Josh Allen. 

It basically makes it nearly impossible to defend the Bills successfully.  If you stay in cover 2, the Bills run it down your throat.  If you move to a base defense, the Bills may still run, but all the TEs and backs can catch and Josh could take off if a seem opens.  

[Andrew Son]

His offense has been incredibly refreshing following the one dimensional attack we had for years.

 

 

[GASabresIUFan]

4 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

I'm really hoping that Brady can gameplan to get Hawes 1-2 targets a game against some of these lower grade teams!  I would LOVEEEEE to be able to put that on tape so that DC's cant start cheating up on him, and we can really keep them guessing.  I dont want it to just be a threat, would like to see them scheme some Play-action touches us up for the big fella.  Plus hes busting his arse, and would appreciate the touches

Hawes has 4 targets in 4 games.  

 

I actually would like to see a little more down field passing, but if teams stay in cover 2, Josh and Brady are content to run the ball, control the clock and wear out the opposing D front.

Edited 44 minutes ago by GASabresIUFan

[GunnerBill]

10 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

As Dorsey showed, any coordinator can have success with Allen. It just takes basic competency. Brady is having strong success. I don't know if that is enough for me to say he's really good or not. I'm not sure everybody eats elsewhere.  

 

Dorsey had success for about 20 games. Then it fell off a cliff very quickly.

 

Brady is a better play designer and a better play caller for the NFL in 2025.

[GASabresIUFan]

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

Dorsey had success for about 20 games. Then it fell off a cliff very quickly.

 

Brady is a better play designer and a better play caller for the NFL in 2025.

Dorsey's biggest issue was that he was locked in the feed Diggs scheme.  Brady was able to see past that issue and trust the other talent around Josh, especially Cook and Shakir.

[billsbackto81]

I don't think we'll never know until McD decides to  take the governor restriction off the carburetor. 

[Mikie2times]

4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Dorsey had success for about 20 games. Then it fell off a cliff very quickly.

 

Brady is a better play designer and a better play caller for the NFL in 2025.

Nobody is saying Dorsey is better. But you will never get a read on what Brady actually is with Allen. 

8 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:

What do you mean by this?  Everyone eats is a cornerstone to GB's offense as well.  

 

It basically makes it nearly impossible to defend the Bills successfully.  If you stay in cover 2, the Bills run it down your throat.  If you move to a base defense, the Bills may still run, but all the TEs and backs can catch and Josh could take off if a seem opens.  

I mean I don't think we can assume Brady would be successful if he leaves Buffalo, 50/50, maybe less. 

[Low Positive]

9 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:

Hawes has 4 targets in 4 games.  

 

I actually would like to see a little more down field passing, but if teams stay in cover 2, Josh and Brady are content to run the ball, control the clock and wear out the opposing D front.

They tried in the last game. Here is what Josh saw when he threw the ball on his INT. 

[GASabresIUFan]

4 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said:

I don't think we'll never know until McD decides to  take the governor restriction off the carburetor. 

I think that is by design and with Josh's approval.  It controls the game, limits mistakes, wears down opponents and keeps Josh from getting beat up.  It's averaging 31+ pts a game.  If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[GunnerBill]

6 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

Nobody is saying Dorsey is better. But you will never get a read on what Brady actually is with Allen. 

I mean I don't think we can assume Brady would be successful if he leaves Buffalo, 50/50, maybe less. 

 

Maybe. Obviously OCs are dependent on talent at Quarterback, that's for sure. But as long as you give Brady a guy who can play he'd churn out results that are commensurate.

Edited 30 minutes ago by GunnerBill

[BillsShredder83]

14 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:

Hawes has 4 targets in 4 games.  

 

I actually would like to see a little more down field passing, but if teams stay in cover 2, Josh and Brady are content to run the ball, control the clock and wear out the opposing D front.

That number doesnt shock me.  Just looked and he's 1/1 all 4 games, 100% catch rate.  Beautiful stuff!!!  Keep running the ball, Im 100% on board.  Hopefully the targets continue, cause as long as that threat is there it makes him even more effective in the run game.

[VW82]

I'm still on the fence about Brady as a play caller but in terms of the direction we've moved our offense - run oriented, tough, multiple TE/HB alignments - for which I have to assume Brady has had significant input, he's been great for us there.  

[BuffaloBillyG]

5 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

Nobody is saying Dorsey is better. But you will never get a read on what Brady actually is with Allen. 

I mean I don't think we can assume Brady would be successful if he leaves Buffalo, 50/50, maybe less. 

People were saying Daboll was really good too. Then he left the Josh Allen bubble. 

 

 Brady has had success here. And he had success his year at LSU with Burrow/Chase/Jefferson. If he goes somewhere without a franchise QB he's doomed like so many before him IMO.

[GASabresIUFan]

14 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

Nobody is saying Dorsey is better. But you will never get a read on what Brady actually is with Allen. 

I mean I don't think we can assume Brady would be successful if he leaves Buffalo, 50/50, maybe less. 

I see your point, but I'll respectfully disagree.  Yes Brady has coached generational talent in college (Burrow) and the pro (Allen), but he scheme completely different offenses based on the talent in hand.  At LSU, Brady had Burrow, Chase and Jefferson.  He had Burrow throw the ball all over the place.   In Carolina, despite losing McCaffery and having Teddy Bridgewater as a QB, he successfully ran an offense through only 4 other offensive players (RB Davis, WRs Chosen, Moore and Samuel - all 4 had 1000 yards+ from scrimmage). No real TE impact.  In Buffalo, he has adjusted again to his personnel, with Josh, deep RB and TE rooms and WR talent in the slot (Shakir and Moore).  

 

By the way, Teddy's best season in the NFL was that one season in Carolina with Brady.

Edited 22 minutes ago by GASabresIUFan