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1 hour ago, SCBills said:

Politics are pure blood sport. 
 

Ok.. so we’ve gotten the intended election night results from the shutdown that we wanted.   How about we open it back up and extend the ACA subsidies one year…

 

….to set to expire right before the midterms

 

Diabolical work

 

 

Meanwhile, Trump is fighting to not provide SNAP benefits.  He had an easy out and could have just blamed the courts.  Nobody's hands are clean here.  But, objectively speaking, Schumer is cleaning Trump's clock from a political perspective this week.  

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Just now, SectionC3 said:

Meanwhile, Trump is fighting to not provide SNAP benefits.  He had an easy out and could have just blamed the courts.  Nobody's hands are clean here.  But, objectively speaking, Schumer is cleaning Trump's clock from a political perspective this week.  


Yes, Schumer is winning. 
 

Also, sign the clean CR. 
 

He won’t, because hes winning, but that doesn’t absolve the left of suffering.  Both sides are perfectly fine with people struggling as they fight for power. 
 

If you can’t acknowledge that, then you’re purely partisan and there’s nothing further to discuss. 

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2 minutes ago, SCBills said:


Yes, Schumer is winning. 
 

Also, sign the clean CR. 
 

He won’t, because hes winning, but that doesn’t absolve the left of suffering.  Both sides are perfectly fine with people struggling as they fight for power. 
 

If you can’t acknowledge that, then you’re purely partisan and there’s nothing further to discuss. 

Why won’t Trump negotiate?  The Dems named their price.  He can end the thing now.  (They both can.). But he won’t give an inch.  And the “ask” for Dems is on health care.   Totally reasonable, from my point of view.  So they’re both at fault to an extent, but objectively I see Trump as the one being more unreasonable.  

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8 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

Why won’t Trump negotiate?  The Dems named their price.  He can end the thing now.  (They both can.). But he won’t give an inch.  And the “ask” for Dems is on health care.   Totally reasonable, from my point of view.  So they’re both at fault to an extent, but objectively I see Trump as the one being more unreasonable.  

 

 

 

 

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12 hours ago, SCBills said:

Politics are pure blood sport. 
 

Ok.. so we’ve gotten the intended election night results from the shutdown that we wanted.   How about we open it back up and extend the ACA subsidies one year…

 

….to set to expire right before the midterms

 

Diabolical work

 

 

 

Huh. And here I thought Schumer was a senile old coot who thought The West Wing was a documentary.

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12 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

And the “ask” for Dems is on health care.   Totally reasonable, from my point of view

Does the dems “ask” still include COVID-era subsidies for families making up to 600k/yr? If so, the dems “ask” amounts to one of those handouts to the rich you normally whine about. Now, because of party politics only, that’s totally reasonable from your point of view. Nice work. 
 

V/R,

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12 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

Why won’t Trump negotiate?  The Dems named their price.  He can end the thing now.  (They both can.). But he won’t give an inch.  And the “ask” for Dems is on health care.   Totally reasonable, from my point of view.  So they’re both at fault to an extent, but objectively I see Trump as the one being more unreasonable.  

I think because the only reason the Dems suddenly became flexible is the election came and went so holding the line no longer provides any politiical value. Too far away from Nov 2026.

Secondly, the majority has traditionally imposed the clean continuing resolution approach on the minority and there's nothing special about this budget impasse exercise that warrants any conditions. The idea being this is what you guys force us to accept and suddenly now that its your turn you want flexibility. Perspective can change a lot. 

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On Friday, Schumer announced his proposal, in which he said that he and his Democrat colleagues would agree to reopen the government if, and only if, the Republicans extended COVID-19-era Obama-care subsidies for another year, and then they could sit down to negotiate with the GOP to deal with healthcare costs.  

 

 

 

Senator Kennedy responded.

 

 

"God, please give me patience, because if you give me strength, I'm going to need bail money," Kennedy replied, and the host couldn't help but laugh. 

 

"What Senator Schumer is suggesting is that we do the dumbest thing possible that won't work. Stupid should hurt more."

 

"[Schumer's proposal] means we would have to take $35B of taxpayer money and give it directly to health insurance companies without any commitment of lowering premiums."

 

"How's that going to reduce healthcare costs?" he added. "How's that going to reduce premiums? The healthcare companies are going to take $35 billion from the taxpayers and put it into their pocket."

 

"I don't know what Senator Schumer is thinking," Kennedy continued. "I mean, Earth to Chuck…

 

Am I going to vote for this? The short answer is no. The long answer is hell no.

 

I think we are just going to have to get used to the fact that we've been in a shutdown, we're going to be in a shutdown for a while."

 

https://redstate.com/katie-jerkovich/2025/11/07/stupid-should-hurt-more-sen-kennedys-savage-response-to-schumer-over-latest-shutdown-proposal-n2195982

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What Schumer wants is a year extension of health insurance subsidies until the end of 2026 so: 1) They get what now 2) they create an issue they can campaign on with a  mid-term election promise to make the subsidies permanent if the voters give them control of Congress. Keep the affordability issue alive. 

 

Smart tactic. 

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12 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

What Schumer wants is a year extension of health insurance subsidies until the end of 2026 so: 1) They get what now 2) they create an issue they can campaign on with a  mid-term election promise to make the subsidies permanent if the voters give them control of Congress. Keep the affordability issue alive. 

 

Smart tactic. 


if thats all he wants then they republicans should just agree and open the government 

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 Scott Bessent Flips Shutdown On Former Clinton Adviser George Stephanopoulos.

 

“The president continues to post about ending the filibuster,” Stephanopoulos began. “Is that the best way to end this shutdown right now? Is that what the administration position is?”

 

“No, George, the best way to do it — and look, you were involved in a lot of these in the ’90s. And you basically called the Republicans terrorists and, you know, you said that it is not the responsible party that keeps the government closed,” Bessent replied. “And so what we need is five brave moderate Democratic Senators to cross the aisle, because right now it is 52 to three — 52 to three — five Democrats can cross the aisle and reopen the government. That’s the best way to do it, George.”

 

“I can disagree with you about the history there,” Stephanopoulos said with a half smile. “We don’t have to get into a history lesson right now —”

 

“George —” Bessent tried to push back.

 

“Let’s talk about —” Stephanopoulos interrupted. “Let’s talk about what’s happening right now.”

 

“If you want, I’ve got all your quotes here,” Bessent offered.

 

“I’m sure you do, but let’s talk about the situation —” Stephanopoulos tried again.

 

“I read your book, so you got one purchase on Amazon this week,” Bessent quipped. “And that’s very much what you said.”

 

https://www.dailywire.com/news/scott-bessent-flips-shutdown-on-former-clinton-adviser-george-stephanopoulos?

 

Much more like this please.

 

 

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"Senate Democrats are about to cave and reopen the government without having gotten anything of substance," tweets Erick Erickson.

"They could have done that 35 days ago."

 

 

Perhaps Democrats have been attempting to stall in hopes that it would enable a Republican-only power move. By not playing ball with Republicans, Democrats have left the other side with the options of allowing the gridlock to continue or attempting a majority-only solution to solve the gridlock. Whether or not that is possible aside, the attempt itself of a Republican majority to move forward without opposition party support may be the outcome toward which Democrats have been funneling their political capital.

 

Minority powers should not be abused. They are there to protect the legislative branch of the government and thereby the people from one-party rule, not for one party to use them to rule.

 

https://twitchy.com/jacobb/2025/11/09/erick-erickson-on-senate-dems-they-could-have-done-that-35-days-ago-n2421457

 

 

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New Deal Emerges to End the Schumer Shutdown, White House Signals Support

By Joe Cunningham

 

The Senate is moving toward a potential breakthrough to end the longest government shutdown in U.S. history, with at least 10 Democratic senators indicating they’ll support advancing a spending package during a rare Sunday session.

 

According to Axios, multiple sources from both parties confirmed that enough Democrats are prepared to advance the legislation, marking the most significant movement toward ending the shutdown since it began Oct. 1. And according to CBS News, the Senate convened at 1:30 p.m. Sunday for the rare weekend session, though no votes were scheduled as of Sunday morning.

 

The emerging deal would include full-year funding bills for three major areas: Veterans Affairs and military construction, Agriculture programs including food assistance, and legislative branch operations. All other government functions would receive funding through Jan. 30.

 

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What Could Still Go Wrong

Even with enough Democratic votes to pass, the deal faces pushback. Some progressive Democrats don’t want to vote for any package without guaranteed health care subsidy extensions. They say a promise of a future vote means nothing if President Trump opposes the extension. However, a senior official with the White House has signaled that the president is on board with the current plan.

 

For Democrats, however, there is still hesitation due largely to politics.

 

“I think voters would rightly see it as a surrender,” Democratic Sen. Richard Blumenthal said before his party’s lunch meeting Thursday

 

https://redstate.com/joesquire/2025/11/09/new-deal-emerges-to-end-the-schumer-shutdown-white-house-signals-support-n2196022

 

 

 

 

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