JDHillFan Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Not much else to say here. Millions are about to go hungry because of MAGA and we can’t even get the media to ask Trump why he was having an MRI done. A mere six democrat senators stand between people starving and eating. Let’s hope at least six of them put country over party. Sad. Very sad. 2 1
Roundybout Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 27 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: A mere six democrat senators stand between people starving and eating. Let’s hope at least six of them put country over party. Sad. Very sad. The MAGA party controls all three branches. It’s on you guys. Surely you can appease 6 democrats by not taking away peoples healthcare?
teef Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago anyone who thinks the shut down is due to only one side is completely foolish.
JDHillFan Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: The MAGA party controls all three branches. It’s on you guys. Surely you can appease 6 democrats by not taking away peoples healthcare? That’s the thing. Nobody is getting their healthcare taken away. Democrats put in a deadline for Covid era subsidies to go away, and that deadline is approaching. I guess your guys effed up when they put that deadline in. Hopefully there are six more Democrat senators that come to their senses. All we can do is hope. as an aside, do you support the Covid era subsidies? Those subsidies make a family of four earning up to $600,000 a year eligible for subsidies. Seems kind of crazy for someone from the “tax the rich” party to approve of that.
SCBills Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Roundybout said: The MAGA party controls all three branches. It’s on you guys. Surely you can appease 6 democrats by not taking away peoples healthcare? You know as well as anyone that neither side cares about people, it’s about power and that will only be swayed by public perception, which right now has gone from 50/50 to a 55/45 lean R this week. If it goes any further, Dems will break and vote for the clean CR. 1
B-Man Posted 6 hours ago Author Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, teef said: anyone who thinks the shut down is due to only one side is completely foolish.
teef Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 14 minutes ago, B-Man said: it's never just one side. on top of that, were close to the longest shut down in history? do you know whose presidency had the longest shut down so far? it's not all a simple coincidence. i'm down for discussion, but anytime this does anything wrong or it doesn't go their way, the other side is to blame, with no questioning at all. i don't buy into that. 1
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 7 minutes ago, teef said: it's never just one side. on top of that, were close to the longest shut down in history? do you know whose presidency had the longest shut down so far? it's not all a simple coincidence. i'm down for discussion, but anytime this does anything wrong or it doesn't go their way, the other side is to blame, with no questioning at all. i don't buy into that. Why don't the dems just vote yes?
teef Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 24 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Why don't the dems just vote yes? why doesn't maga just vote yes? i certainly don't know all the nuances involved, but it just become so easy for this administration to place blame. do you not put it past trump to drag this on? the guy threw a giant tantrum over a canadian commercial to the point where he cut off trade. that's insane. 2
SCBills Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 4 minutes ago, teef said: why doesn't maga just vote yes? i certainly don't know all the nuances involved, but it just become so easy for this administration to place blame. do you not put it past trump to drag this on? the guy threw a giant tantrum over a canadian commercial to the point where he cut off trade. that's insane. R’s have a clean CR ready to go. Simple as that. 7 Dems vote for it. It’s over. 1
teef Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 4 minutes ago, SCBills said: R’s have a clean CR ready to go. Simple as that. 7 Dems vote for it. It’s over. i'll be thrilled to see when it happens. people need to get paid.
dgrochester55 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) This fearmongering over losing SNAP is the equivalent of when the executives of networks and cable/streaming providers bicker over how to divide millions amongst themselves and flood programs with messages telling you that the other side is going to take away your station by January 1st and that we need to call them to complain. SNAP benefits will not get taken away, the chaos that ensued from that would be much more costly than moving things around to make it work. Even if the budget is not settled by then, there will be a "Last second miracle" that allows SNAP to continue. The real problem is that not enough people realize that both sides are at fault and that their bickering always ends up taking precedence over our well being. Talk does not matter anymore, only action when it comes to this budget. I don't care whose fault it is anymore. Edited 5 hours ago by dgrochester55 1 1
Roundybout Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 5 hours ago, SCBills said: You know as well as anyone that neither side cares about people, it’s about power and that will only be swayed by public perception, which right now has gone from 50/50 to a 55/45 lean R this week. If it goes any further, Dems will break and vote for the clean CR. Or they could hold off more and start to piss off the army! That’ll be one way to get rid of MAGA 1
LDD Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, teef said: i'll be thrilled to see when it happens. people need to get paid. The partisans here are happy to chase their tails and go round and round about "the other Sneeches"...why nobody just blames Congress, who is at fault here, is simply a product of the internet filth that both sides consume. It's a CONGRESS problem, figure it the F out, do your job. 1
The Frankish Reich Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago I have to question the Democrats' strategy here, since they've put themselves in a very difficult position. If they'd signed off on a QR, I think it's obvious that the Republicans would have to 100% own the end of the supplemental Obamacare subsidies. Now? Well, it's kind of a muddle in the eyes of the average low-information voter. I think that's where we're headed, and I still think we'll see very significant blowback from some of the red state members of the House and Senate. 1
LDD Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 8 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: I have to question the Democrats' strategy here, since they've put themselves in a very difficult position. If they'd signed off on a QR, I think it's obvious that the Republicans would have to 100% own the end of the supplemental Obamacare subsidies. Now? Well, it's kind of a muddle in the eyes of the average low-information voter. I think that's where we're headed, and I still think we'll see very significant blowback from some of the red state members of the House and Senate. As long as Congress determines its main priority is to screw the other side instead of serving the American people then BOTH SIDES are not doing their job. It's that simple. Full stop. It's not about a "play" or a "one up". Their job is clear and they're NOT doing it: fund the gov't, pass laws and act as a check. Which one are they doing right now??? 1
JDHillFan Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 40 minutes ago, LDD said: The partisans here are happy to chase their tails and go round and round about "the other Sneeches"...why nobody just blames Congress, who is at fault here, is simply a product of the internet filth that both sides consume. It's a CONGRESS problem, figure it the F out, do your job. The only thing standing in the way of congress doing their job is 6 democrat senators willing to put country over party and voting exactly as they did earlier this year. Edited 2 hours ago by JDHillFan
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