Big Blitz Posted September 18 Posted September 18 7 minutes ago, Roundybout said: The Dems have failed to do anything to stop the MAGA authoritarian takeover. No kidding they’re unpopular. How are you less free today? Do tell. Unless you are here illegally, you aren’t. I’d think it would be pretty obvious to all affected if this authoritarian regime existed. FYI, this is the rhetoric (and it’s baseless) that got Charlie killed. People like you and the media you consume. We watched Biden actually trample over rights. No MAGAs shooting lib “thought” leaders or late night comics. No cities trashed. 1
Roundybout Posted September 18 Posted September 18 Just now, Big Blitz said: How are you less free today? Do tell. Unless you are here illegally, you aren’t. I’d think it would be pretty obvious to all affected if this authoritarian regime existed. FYI, this is the rhetoric (and it’s baseless) that got Charlie killed. People like you and the media you consume. We watched Biden actually trample over rights. No MAGAs shooting lib “thought” leaders or late night comics. No cities trashed. Im less free because the precedent is now set that you must agree with the administration, even on matters as stupid as this, or else they will shut you down. And here you are clapping like a seal for it. 2
Mike in Horseheads Posted September 18 Posted September 18 4 minutes ago, Roundybout said: They use the same system! Okay, there are 27,000 high schools in the US. So, you're at 32,000, assuming EVERY ONE OF THEM got a new chapter. See how this falls apart? OK but what about daycares lol 2
Roundybout Posted September 18 Posted September 18 1 minute ago, SCBills said: Yes.. it falls apart if you’re ridiculously literal about it. 54,000 chapter requests. Yes, im sure some of them come from people at the same colleges and high schools. Sure man 1
SCBills Posted September 18 Posted September 18 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Im less free because the precedent is now set that you must agree with the administration, even on matters as stupid as this, or else they will shut you down. And here you are clapping like a seal for it. The Biden Administration was investigating their political opps, including Turning Point. Does that fall into your worry bucket? Because the right is just doing what y’all have done for the past decade. So yes.. maybe YOU feel less free now… because now you feel like us. Edited September 18 by SCBills 2
Royale with Cheese Posted September 18 Posted September 18 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: Yes.. it falls apart if you’re ridiculously literal about it. 54,000 chapter requests. Yes, im sure some of them come from people at the same colleges and high schools. Currently Turning Point has 900 chapters. And they were able to move Gen Z massively to the right. Yes. There was a 4 million voter shift from 2020-2024. Its about to shift more. I have seen some Economists predicting this could be the biggest shift in US history. 2 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Sure man You honestly think they’re taking Dems can shift back, like it would need to be an unbelievable and miraculous shift to win the House back soon? You didn’t answer my question. Shapiro is going to be able to even top the shift from 2020-2024 because that was record breaking? 1
SCBills Posted September 18 Posted September 18 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Yes. There was a 4 million voter shift from 2020-2024. Its about to shift more. I have seen some Economists predicting this could be the biggest shift in US history. This doesn’t even account for the census mistake that will be rectified in 2030, where red states gain congressional seats and electoral votes. 1
boyst Posted September 18 Posted September 18 5 minutes ago, SCBills said: Yes.. it falls apart if you’re ridiculously literal about it. 54,000 chapter requests. Yes, im sure some of them come from people at the same colleges and high schools. Currently Turning Point has 900 chapters. And they were able to move Gen Z massively to the right. Also charter schools which do not get counted in this. With charter schools being at almost 8k say only 2k are HS. Further, yes, multiple inquiries from the same school is obvious. 1
Lost Posted September 18 Posted September 18 3 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Yes. There was a 4 million voter shift from 2020-2024. Its about to shift more. I have seen some Economists predicting this could be the biggest shift in US history. Single women are gonna keep shifting left, even after this.. unfortunately.
Roundybout Posted September 18 Posted September 18 5 minutes ago, SCBills said: The Biden Administration was investigating their political opps, including Turning Point. Does that fall into your worry bucket? Because the right is just doing what y’all have done for the past decade. So yes.. maybe YOU feel less free now… because now you feel like us. I'd investigate authoritarians too. That's how some of your favorite propagandists like Tim Pool got caught taking Russian money! Oops! Just now, Lost said: Single women are gonna keep shifting left, even after this.. unfortunately. Given MAGAs stance on abortion, can't imagine why! 6 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Yes. There was a 4 million voter shift from 2020-2024. Its about to shift more. I have seen some Economists predicting this could be the biggest shift in US history. You honestly think they’re taking Dems can shift back, like it would need to be an unbelievable and miraculous shift to win the House back soon? You didn’t answer my question. Shapiro is going to be able to even top the shift from 2020-2024 because that was record breaking? Yes because historically midterms favor the other side. Dems did it in 2018. Republicans did it in 2022. 1
rusty shackleford Posted September 18 Posted September 18 8 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Im less free because the precedent is now set that you must agree with the administration, even on matters as stupid as this, or else they will shut you down. And here you are clapping like a seal for it. Oh man that sucks, were you only fired or locked up for your disagreement with the admin?
Royale with Cheese Posted September 18 Posted September 18 2 minutes ago, Roundybout said: I'd investigate authoritarians too. That's how some of your favorite propagandists like Tim Pool got caught taking Russian money! Oops! Given MAGAs stance on abortion, can't imagine why! Yes because historically midterms favor the other side. Dems did it in 2018. Republicans did it in 2022. You just literally said they aren’t popular. DNC said they’re at rock bottom. And your evidence is an irrelevant pattern?
SCBills Posted September 18 Posted September 18 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Lost said: Single women are gonna keep shifting left, even after this.. unfortunately. Republicans need to focus on men and married women. Single women are a lost cause.. and it’s not just abortion. They find meaning in their suicidal empathy. Pro-illegal immigration, pro-criminal justice reform/restorative justice.. just the worst, most ridiculous takes you’ll ever see. Always going to be a 40/60 split at best for Republicans. This last election they moved Gen Z women slightly to the right and Gen Z men massively to the right (a trend that was already established). They just need to focus on keeping that trend in place. Edited September 18 by SCBills 1 2
Big Blitz Posted September 18 Posted September 18 15 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Im less free because the precedent is now set that you must agree with the administration, even on matters as stupid as this, or else they will shut you down. And here you are clapping like a seal for it. Crazy. I turn on CNN, MSNBC, and The View - still the same North Korean news. Why can’t my King shut these down now?? 1
Andy1 Posted September 18 Posted September 18 In the world of comedy, the Kimmel remarks were remarkably mild. Trump wanted Kimmel off the air. So it turns out that Kimmel was let go after pressure from the Fed FCC Chair. Here is Trump using the power of the Federal government in an authoritarian manner to limit free speech. “Earlier on Wednesday, FCC Chair Brendan Carr had urged local broadcasters to stop airing "Jimmy Kimmel Live" on ABC. He suggested the commission could open an investigation and that broadcasters could potentially be fined or lose their licenses if there was a pattern of distorted comment. "This is a very, very serious issue right now for Disney. We can do this the easy way or the hard way," Carr said in a podcast interview with conservative Benny Johnson that aired Wednesday. "Disney needs to see some change here, but the individual licensed stations that are taking their content, it's time for them to step up and say this, you know, garbage to the extent that that's what comes down the pipe in the future isn't something that we think serves the needs of our local communities." Carr praised Nexstar. "While this may be an unprecedented decision, it is important for broadcasters to push back on Disney programming that they determine falls short of community values," he said.” Nexstar stations carry ABC programming. Nexstar owns lots of stations and is trying to merge in a 6.2 billion dollar deal with TEGNA. The deal will need approval from the FCC. Hence the pressure from Carr and the firing of Kimmel. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/disneys-abc-pulls-jimmy-kimmel-live-off-air-after-remarks-about-kirk-2025-09-18/ 1 2
Big Blitz Posted September 18 Posted September 18 What’s really scary is the potential retribution that could be coming to conservatives on tv - the late night shows, the network talk shows, ESPN, NFL Network, and MTV. This could get really ugly! 1
Lost Posted September 18 Posted September 18 10 minutes ago, Andy1 said: In the world of comedy, the Kimmel remarks were remarkably mild. Trump wanted Kimmel off the air. So it turns out that Kimmel was let go after pressure from the Fed FCC Chair. Here is Trump using the power of the Federal government in an authoritarian manner to limit free speech. That particular statement wasn't comedy. It was straight up lies and slander. ABC dropping Kimmel was gonna happen merely from the massive pushback from the community and declining revenue from the show as @boyst pointed out earlier in this thread. The FCC threat was just the icing on the cake for Disney to wash their hands of the situation. Jimmy had no problems with other tv show hosts getting canned in a similar manner. Here he is rejoicing over Tucker Carlson getting fired from fox. I'm sure he was equally delighted when President Trump got banned from Twitter and Facebook. 2
Royale with Cheese Posted September 18 Posted September 18 25 minutes ago, Lost said: Single women are gonna keep shifting left, even after this.. unfortunately. I don’t think they are anymore. Well, not as drastic a difference. I think it was what, 65/35? Im thinking it’ll be closer to 55/45 Dem/Rep. College kids are starting to shift as a whole. Kirk was a huge piece of shifting 18-24.
rusty shackleford Posted September 18 Posted September 18 6 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: What’s really scary is the potential retribution that could be coming to conservatives on tv - the late night shows, the network talk shows, ESPN, NFL Network, and MTV. This could get really ugly! Sage Steele better be careful with her comments or she could end up canceled. 1
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