Wolfgang Posted September 14 Posted September 14 3 minutes ago, Max Fischer said: Doing my part to call out the hate and lies.
Max Fischer Posted September 14 Posted September 14 1 minute ago, JDHillFan said: It’s everyone else that’s full of hate. Don’t forget that. C’mon Trans truther, when are you going to provide anything to make your case that teams folks are disproportionately violent? Or is your hate based on feelings? Just now, Wolfgang said: Seems apt you would use the source material that supported the principles of facism, nationalism and propaganda.
SCBills Posted September 14 Posted September 14 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Max Fischer said: I the past 10 years, trans people have accounted for POINT one one percent of mass shootings. That's it. What about the other 99.89%? Why concentrate is all the focus on trnas people? It makes no sense at all. Unless safety is not the motivation. Yea, the others are a problem too. White people shooting up schools, black gang violence… we have something seriously wrong in this country. I won’t sugarcoat or absolve any of that. I will say there has pretty much been a trans/non-binary mass shooting per year over the last 7 years, culminating with what is probably going to a very difficult national conversation once the details of the Kirk assassination come out. Trans/non-binary identifying people are exploding in numbers and we have a clear trend of violence over the past few years. It needs to be addressed.. and it likely will be once the details of this story are fleshed out. 1% of the population can’t be committing a mass shooting per year since 2018 and nobody notices. Edited September 14 by SCBills 1
JDHillFan Posted September 14 Posted September 14 2 minutes ago, Max Fischer said: C’mon Trans truther, when are you going to provide anything to make your case that teams folks are disproportionately violent? Or is your hate based on feelings? If you can share a post of mine that attempts to make that case, I will indulge you. You won’t want to spend a lot of time searching for it, especially in your condition. I’m referring to your inebriation and not your general unhinged behavior.
Wolfgang Posted September 14 Posted September 14 3 minutes ago, Max Fischer said: Seems apt you would use the source material that supported the principles of facism, nationalism and propaganda. And then?
Wacka Posted September 14 Posted September 14 30 minutes ago, DC Tom said: I've gotten crankier. And get off my ***** lawn, you idiot. Welcome back!
Max Fischer Posted September 14 Posted September 14 (edited) 11 minutes ago, SCBills said: Yea, the others are a problem too. White people shooting up schools, black gang violence… we have something seriously wrong in this country. I won’t sugarcoat or absolve any of that. I will say there has pretty much been a trans/non-binary mass shooting per year over the last 7 years, culminating with what is probably going to a very difficult national conversation once the details of the Kirk assassination come out. Trans/non-binary identifying people are exploding in numbers and we have a clear trend of violence over the past few years. It needs to be addressed.. and it likely will be once the details of this story are fleshed out. 1% of the population can’t be committing a mass shooting per year since 2018 and nobody notices. I appreciate the thoughtful post, but the numbers are not correct. There have been two verified trans “mass” shooters, both were at a school. Trans make up .11% - that means that statistically, in 2000 mass shootings”over the past 10 years, two of them were committed by trans people. Depending on the survey, trans people make up .5% to 1.1% or the population over 12 years old. Either number means that a trans people make up far less mass shooters than its population. The question is, why is the right wing and GOP so fixated on trans shooters and not the rest? Edited September 14 by Max Fischer
SCBills Posted September 14 Posted September 14 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Max Fischer said: I appreciate the thoughtful post, but the numbers are not correct. There have been two verified trans “mass” shooters, both were at a school. They make up .11% - that means that statistically, in 2000 lmass shootings”over the past 10 years, two of them were committees by trans people. Depending on the survey, trans people make up .5% to 1.1% or the population over 12 years old. Either number means that a trans people are far less mass shooters than its population. The question is, why is the right wing and GOP so fixated on trans shooters and not the rest? I disagree with your numbers.. I pulled mine from the AP, which right wingers dispute, but it’s a number to go off of. To answer your questions about RW fixation on trans shooters, probably because of Covington Catholic. Most mass shootings have simply been angry, loner kid shoots up school. Covington Catholic was a targeted attack on the faith most RW hold, and to top it off, the authorities and media played games with the investigation and transparency due to the nature of the shooter .. which incensed the right. Theres also a ton of violent threats from the far left trans community towards the right on social media. The RW certainly takes notice of that. Specifically death threats towards conservative leaders… like Charlie Kirk. Edited September 14 by SCBills
Orlando Buffalo Posted September 14 Posted September 14 47 minutes ago, Max Fischer said: I have no idea. Whats with all the hate of trans people? And every other group who isn't White conservative? What hatred are you speaking of right now? Is it simply the fact that we won't lie. Because telling the truth to a liberal seems to be dangerous. If you think a man can become a woman you are mentally ill, I don't hate you, I pity you and wish you well.
Big Blitz Posted September 14 Posted September 14 25 minutes ago, Max Fischer said: C’mon Trans truther, when are you going to provide anything to make your case that teams folks are disproportionately violent? Or is your hate based on feelings? Seems apt you would use the source material that supported the principles of facism, nationalism and propaganda. I’ve got more. Including a corpse of the best of us … a moderate in the arena of discourse as it pertain to conduct and civility. And you killed him. Only out of context clips as per their Jon Stewart upbringing
Max Fischer Posted September 14 Posted September 14 9 minutes ago, SCBills said: I disagree with your numbers.. I pulled mine from the AP, which right wingers dispute, but it’s a number to go off of. To answer your questions about RW fixation on trans shooters, probably because of Covington Catholic. Most mass shootings have simply been angry, loner kid shoots up school. Covington Catholic was a targeted attack on the faith most RW hold, and to top it off, the authorities and media played games with the investigation and transparency due to the nature of the shooter .. which incensed the right. Theres also a ton of violent threats from the far left trans community towards the right on social media. The RW certainly takes notice of that. Specifically death threats towards conservative leaders… like Charlie Kirk. We’ll have to disagree on the numbers but there is no way to believe that trans community has a disproportionate number among shooters, and even if they did, it would be what?, 1.5 or 2 shooters out of 1000? What about the other 998 - or to make even better for you, 975? If you deported all the trans people it would barely make a dent in our mass shooting problem. The same is for so-called trans sex crimes against kids. There are fewer trans sex crimes than then the population. Yet, you wont hear the right try to outlaw religious institutions or sports organizations. Sure, the right would like to eliminate public education but at the moment all the blame is on the trans community. What accounts for the psychotic fixtation on the trans community? Moreover, what the right thinks as “threats” certainly hasn't translated into actions - while actual crime AGAINST the trans community have increased expodentially - not to mention credible threats of violence and economic harm and verbal harassment. The Trans xommunih just want to be left to live their lives but the community is under constant threats, prejudice and very real physical harm. And that's from our government, not to mention right wing media and the very people on this board. Would you be surprised if they all felt threatened? 17 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: I’ve got more. Including a corpse of the best of us … a moderate in the arena of discourse as it pertain to conduct and civility. And you killed him. Only out of context clips as per their Jon Stewart upbringing Noe of this information is true. Libs of Tick Tock. Are you joking. Find anyone with a shred of credibility. Why don't you just say you Dad said it was true? BTW, you missed the entire point and didn't provide anything to prove that trans people are disproportionately violent. We’ll assume the rants against trans community is based on hate. 1
Max Fischer Posted September 14 Posted September 14 29 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: What hatred are you speaking of right now? Is it simply the fact that we won't lie. Because telling the truth to a liberal seems to be dangerous. If you think a man can become a woman you are mentally ill, I don't hate you, I pity you and wish you well. Haha. Y’all are not concerned about the truth. This board has railed for days about trans people but can't post one fact. That's classic right wing behavior. Use hate to drive agendas.
Big Blitz Posted September 14 Posted September 14 This is about to break wide open Walls are closing in on this trash.
Orlando Buffalo Posted September 14 Posted September 14 19 minutes ago, Max Fischer said: Haha. Y’all are not concerned about the truth. This board has railed for days about trans people but can't post one fact. That's classic right wing behavior. Use hate to drive agendas. So you believe a man can say he is a woman and become a woman? That is literally insane to believe. You guys need to just admit your beliefs that those who disagree deserve death, forget facts or logic.
Commsvet11 Posted September 14 Posted September 14 3 hours ago, Max Fischer said: Doing my part to call out the hate and lies. Such a contribution, what twenty people on a buffalo bills message board politics sub forum? That’s the best you could muster? Seems lazy. 1
SCBills Posted September 14 Posted September 14 5 hours ago, Max Fischer said: We’ll have to disagree on the numbers but there is no way to believe that trans community has a disproportionate number among shooters, and even if they did, it would be what?, 1.5 or 2 shooters out of 1000? What about the other 998 - or to make even better for you, 975? If you deported all the trans people it would barely make a dent in our mass shooting problem. The same is for so-called trans sex crimes against kids. There are fewer trans sex crimes than then the population. Yet, you wont hear the right try to outlaw religious institutions or sports organizations. Sure, the right would like to eliminate public education but at the moment all the blame is on the trans community. What accounts for the psychotic fixtation on the trans community? Moreover, what the right thinks as “threats” certainly hasn't translated into actions - while actual crime AGAINST the trans community have increased expodentially - not to mention credible threats of violence and economic harm and verbal harassment. The Trans xommunih just want to be left to live their lives but the community is under constant threats, prejudice and very real physical harm. And that's from our government, not to mention right wing media and the very people on this board. Would you be surprised if they all felt threatened? Noe of this information is true. Libs of Tick Tock. Are you joking. Find anyone with a shred of credibility. Why don't you just say you Dad said it was true? BTW, you missed the entire point and didn't provide anything to prove that trans people are disproportionately violent. We’ll assume the rants against trans community is based on hate. If the trans community just wanted to be left alone, I’d say leave them alone. I have no issue with an adult trans person who feel their true identity is that of another gender and acts as such. I wouldn’t discriminate against them, and I think you’d notice in my posts, I also refer to them as they wish… for instance, I’m not purposefully calling the trans gf of the killer a man.. she identified as a woman, and I’m pretty sure if you look at my posts, that’s how I referred to her. That said, as a movement, they don’t want to be “left alone”. We have drag queen story hours for children antagonistically thrown in our faces. We have children, who don’t know any better, making irreversible choices for their body. We have biological men playing women’s sports and in women’s locker rooms. 80% of America does not like any of that. So it’s not just “we want to be left alone” … a lot of conservatives, like me, would have zero issue with the community if that was the case. 5
ArdmoreRyno Posted September 14 Posted September 14 7 hours ago, Big Blitz said: I’ve got more. Including a corpse of the best of us … a moderate in the arena of discourse as it pertain to conduct and civility. And you killed him. Only out of context clips as per their Jon Stewart upbringing Only one side screams at others on campus, tears down posters and steals signs... shoots are public speakers. ONE side of the isle. 1
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted September 14 Posted September 14 6 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Not right wing groups? Didn't some right wingers think Kirk wasn't right wing enough? This kid came from a hard core MAGA family But they get a pass? 1
BillsFanNC Posted September 14 Author Posted September 14 1 hour ago, SCBills said: If the trans community just wanted to be left alone, I’d say leave them alone. I have no issue with an adult trans person who feel their true identity is that of another gender and acts as such. I wouldn’t discriminate against them, and I think you’d notice in my posts, I also refer to them as they wish… for instance, I’m not purposefully calling the trans gf of the killer a man.. she identified as a woman, and I’m pretty sure if you look at my posts, that’s how I referred to her. That said, as a movement, they don’t want to be “left alone”. We have drag queen story hours for children antagonistically thrown in our faces. We have children, who don’t know any better, making irreversible choices for their body. We have biological men playing women’s sports and in women’s locker rooms. 80% of America does not like any of that. So it’s not just “we want to be left alone” … a lot of conservatives, like me, would have zero issue with the community if that was the case. This means that you're a hate filled fascist. - Max Fisher
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