Dion Dawkins contract restructure

[No_Matter_What]

Bumping this with quick question:

 

My fellow nerds who lurk Sportrac from time to time, anybody has an idea what they changed last couple of days? 2 days ago the had us about $2M over, and now they have us $2.8M under. Anybody knows where did that come from? Is there a new restructure? I don't see any and I don't see any other reasonable option. But I am sure they did something lol.

 

@DrDawkinstein @ColoradoBills @BillsFanForever19

 

 

 

 

[BearNorth]

1 hour ago, No_Matter_What said:

Bumping this with quick question:

 

My fellow nerds who lurk Sportrac from time to time, anybody has an idea what they changed last couple of days? 2 days ago the had us about $2M over, and now they have us $2.8M under. Anybody knows where did that come from? Is there a new restructure? 

 

@DrDawkinstein @ColoradoBills @BillsFanForever19

 

Ogunjobi and Hoecht's suspensions should be worth 3.5 - 4.0MM.

[No_Matter_What]

33 minutes ago, BearNorth said:

Ogunjobi and Hoecht's suspensions should be worth 3.5 - 4.0MM.

That's not it. Their cap numbers haven't changed IIRC.

[BuffaloBillyG]

2 hours ago, No_Matter_What said:

Bumping this with quick question:

 

My fellow nerds who lurk Sportrac from time to time, anybody has an idea what they changed last couple of days? 2 days ago the had us about $2M over, and now they have us $2.8M under. Anybody knows where did that come from? Is there a new restructure? I don't see any and I don't see any other reasonable option. But I am sure they did something lol.

 

@DrDawkinstein @ColoradoBills @BillsFanForever19

 

 

 

 

I wonder if it's money that was counting against the cap that now isn't. Something such as GameDay bonuses from some guys. If they weren't active, that cash goes back to the cap. So Milano missing time, Samuel not being active the first three games, Oliver missing time. If any of them have a bonus based around  being active, that money goes back to the pot.

[DrDawkinstein]

4 hours ago, No_Matter_What said:

Bumping this with quick question:

 

My fellow nerds who lurk Sportrac from time to time, anybody has an idea what they changed last couple of days? 2 days ago the had us about $2M over, and now they have us $2.8M under. Anybody knows where did that come from? Is there a new restructure? I don't see any and I don't see any other reasonable option. But I am sure they did something lol.

 

@DrDawkinstein @ColoradoBills @BillsFanForever19

 

 

 

 

 

No idea what mightve changed, but I'd also say that Spotrac isnt always 100% accurate or up to date, so they may have just been catching up from moves made weeks ago.

[Matt_In_NH]

5 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

No idea what mightve changed, but I'd also say that Spotrac isnt always 100% accurate or up to date, so they may have just been catching up from moves made weeks ago.

Definitely not 100%.  You can never be over during the season.  

[BarleyNY]

9 hours ago, No_Matter_What said:

Bumping this with quick question:

 

My fellow nerds who lurk Sportrac from time to time, anybody has an idea what they changed last couple of days? 2 days ago the had us about $2M over, and now they have us $2.8M under. Anybody knows where did that come from? Is there a new restructure? I don't see any and I don't see any other reasonable option. But I am sure they did something lol.

 

@DrDawkinstein @ColoradoBills @BillsFanForever19

 

 

Over the cap has us at about $2.3M in space. They are consistently more accurate than Spotrac and are the site NFL teams utilize for info on other teams. 

[Matt_In_NH]

1 hour ago, BarleyNY said:

 

Over the cap has us at about $2.3M in space. They are consistently more accurate than Spotrac and are the site NFL teams utilize for info on other teams. 

so nfl teams don’t have info from the nfl and they rely on a third party website?

[BarleyNY]

16 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

so nfl teams don’t have info from the nfl and they rely on a third party website?

My understanding is that teams only discuss their own cap figures directly with the league. That is by sending contracts to the league for approval. Virtually all of the important contract information is in the public space via the NFLPA, agents and media which filters into sites like OTC and Spotrac. 

 

Teams would prefer to have their own contract info confidential so agents would not know what they have to spend - and the cheaper franchises don’t want their fans to know they’re not spending. But players and agents want it all out in the public sphere so they can squeeze more out of teams. Teams also want to see what every other team is doing so they know where the market is. So it pretty much all comes out. I also suspect that the league doesn’t want to be responsible for sending out every team’s financial/cap info to every other team. 

Edited 2 hours ago by BarleyNY

[Matt_In_NH]

54 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

My understanding is that teams only discuss their own cap figures directly with the league. That is by sending contracts to the league for approval. Virtually all of the important contract information is in the public space via the NFLPA, agents and media which filters into sites like OTC and Spotrac. 

 

Teams would prefer to have their own contract info confidential so agents would not know what they have to spend - and the cheaper franchises don’t want their fans to know they’re not spending. But players and agents want it all out in the public sphere so they can squeeze more out of teams. Teams also want to see what every other team is doing so they know where the market is. So it pretty much all comes out. I also suspect that the league doesn’t want to be responsible for sending out every team’s financial/cap info to every other team. 

I get the info may not all be 100% public (like you said a lot is but there are a lot of details and a couple sites that try to get it all straight but have different numbers 100% of the time so) but I would have thought a team can see everyone's current cap space at any time according to the leagues bookkeeping.

Edited 1 hour ago by Matt_In_NH