sherpa Posted October 15 Posted October 15 The US has just deployed an AC-130 gunship to the region. A monster firepower machine. It has plenty of loiter time, plenty of guns, plenty of sensors, and usually operates at night. Not a survivable situation for a boat driver. 1 1
The Frankish Reich Posted October 15 Posted October 15 3 hours ago, sherpa said: The US has just deployed an AC-130 gunship to the region. A monster firepower machine. It has plenty of loiter time, plenty of guns, plenty of sensors, and usually operates at night. Not a survivable situation for a boat driver. Interesting from the logistics side. From the legal side: I took the Law of the Sea class many moons ago, so I'm not exactly up to speed on this. My understanding: we're talking about non-flag vessels in international waters. The law is murky here about what we can do. I'm not saying we can't legally do this, but I would like to see the legal theory tightened up here. There may be grounds for seizing the vessel; I'm not sure what grounds would lead to destroying the vessel, particularly if no warning is given. Here's a good summary from a maritime lawyer. https://federal-criminal.com/forfeiture-seizure/federal-laws-on-seizing-vessels-in-international-waters/ I understand they're basing this on a quasi-terrorism ground, but international law is actually a thing too. 1
sherpa Posted October 16 Posted October 16 6 minutes ago, Homelander said: What evidence supports a claim that we are "starting a war with Venezuela?"
Homelander Posted October 16 Posted October 16 9 minutes ago, sherpa said: What evidence supports a claim that we are "starting a war with Venezuela?" What would you call it
sherpa Posted October 16 Posted October 16 1 minute ago, Homelander said: What would you call it I certainly wouldn't call it a war. If the US waged "war" against Venezuela, it would be far more dramatic. 1
sherpa Posted October 16 Posted October 16 The US has no need for Venezuelan oil. There is no leverage there.
Wolfgang Posted October 18 Posted October 18 The soft on crime people will be absolutely miserable over the next several years... Good times ahead... Strange how so many Americans could care less about the triple digit overdose deaths we experience year after year... They support endless foreign wars... But the deaths of our youth go unavenged...
B-Man Posted October 19 Posted October 19 US Forces Destroy Drug Running Submersible and Take First Drug War Prisoners The United States is repatriating the survivors of Thursday's attack on a drug-smuggling submersible craft somewhere in the Caribbean. https://redstate.com/streiff/2025/10/18/us-forces-destroy-drug-running-submersible-and-takes-first-drug-war-prisoners-n2195227
Homelander Posted October 23 Posted October 23 On 8/11/2025 at 3:40 PM, Roundybout said: Trump said no new wars. Now we’re getting wars up the wazoo.
B-Man Posted October 24 Posted October 24 Like the Iraq strike............No troops, no endless war, a show of US strength against the cartels who are poisoning our county. But leftists like Homey are making their own 'preemptive strike 1
Che Guevara Posted Wednesday at 12:12 AM Posted Wednesday at 12:12 AM Largest US naval buildup in the Caribbean since the Cuban missile crisis, https://www.gktoday.in/us-military-buildup-in-the-caribbean-sparks-fresh-tensions-with-venezuela/ Very little Fentanyl that enters the US comes from Venezuela, https://news.sky.com/story/trumps-venezuela-drug-bust-shows-hes-either-misinformed-or-has-another-motive-13457711 Not exactly lefty sources above and below Lindsey Graham is beating the war drum. Also, Rick Scott suggests that Maduro's days are numbered. https://www.military.com/daily-news/2025/10/27/republican-senator-supports-military-force-against-venezuela-new-game-were-playing.html I do not think it is crazy to think that the Trump Administration is interested in war with Venezuela. And, it seems like they are searching for a reason to escalate. But, anything that is being asserted about Maduro and Venezuela could apply and does apply to many other countries and leaders as well. And, importantly, Maduro has tried to help deescalate, hence the oil offer to the US. https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Maduro-Offered-Venezuelas-Oil-to-Trump-to-Avoid-Conflict-with-US.html#:~:text=The administration of Venezuelan leader Nicolás Maduro,quoting multiple sources close to the discussions. Seems a bit like 2003...but, we'll see. 1
All_Pro_Bills Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago On 10/16/2025 at 3:52 PM, sherpa said: I certainly wouldn't call it a war. If the US waged "war" against Venezuela, it would be far more dramatic. Rumors are swilling in the oil markets this morning about an imminent attack by US forces against military targets in Venezuela. But crude prices have barely moved up less than $1. "The planned attacks against Venezuelan military installations are being reported in The Miami Herald and The Wall Street Journal, both which describe the impending assault as imminent." https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/venezuela/article312722642.html
T master Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago On 8/11/2025 at 8:18 AM, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: Drug are going to get more expensive, too! So much for no more endless wars, this is a war that will never end if it actually begins https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/08/us/trump-military-drug-cartels.html President Trump has secretly signed a directive to the Pentagon to begin using military force against certain Latin American drug cartels that his administration has deemed terrorist organizations, according to people familiar with the matter. The decision to bring the American military into the fight is the most aggressive step so far in the administration’s escalating campaign against the cartels. It signals Mr. Trump’s continued willingness to use military forces to carry out what has primarily been considered a law enforcement responsibility to curb the flow of fentanyl and other illegal drugs. The order provides an official basis for the possibility of direct military operations at sea and on foreign soil against cartels. U.S. military officials have started drawing up options for how the military could go after the groups, the people familiar with the conversations said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss the sensitive internal deliberations. Well as it goes the "War on Drugs" being in the hands of the police to this point hasn't been all that and a bag of chips and now with the flow of fentanyl and how it's out come in a lot of cases is usually death I'm good with it, what's the difference in death by a bullet or death by a drug ? Either way it still amounts to someone dying and when it's by a drugs those folks are usually asking to use it or by some circumstance fall into it as a casual user and wind up hooked and dying from it so I for one am all for looking at other alternatives that could have a different out come to stopping it .
yall Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago On 10/19/2025 at 10:29 AM, B-Man said: US Forces Destroy Drug Running Submersible and Take First Drug War Prisoners The United States is repatriating the survivors of Thursday's attack on a drug-smuggling submersible craft somewhere in the Caribbean. https://redstate.com/streiff/2025/10/18/us-forces-destroy-drug-running-submersible-and-takes-first-drug-war-prisoners-n2195227 Just more innocent fishermen in their (checks notes...) submarine. 1 1
LDD Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 38 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Rumors are swilling in the oil markets this morning about an imminent attack by US forces against military targets in Venezuela. But crude prices have barely moved up less than $1. "The planned attacks against Venezuelan military installations are being reported in The Miami Herald and The Wall Street Journal, both which describe the impending assault as imminent." https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/venezuela/article312722642.html Hmmmmm...wonder what Congress has to say about war? What a bunch of lap dogs. It's all fun and games till Americans start dying.
All_Pro_Bills Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 6 minutes ago, LDD said: Hmmmmm...wonder what Congress has to say about war? What a bunch of lap dogs. It's all fun and games till Americans start dying. That would require Congress to actually convene and do something.
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