HardyBoy Posted August 12 Posted August 12 1 hour ago, dorquemada said: Coach McD: “Boys, make sure you don’t win any one on one battles, it’ll give away our strategy for the season!” Did you watch the all 22 film? What are you basing them not winning 1 on 1 battles on? Do you know what they were asked to do? Do you realize you're using logical fallacies? Quote
ddaryl Posted August 12 Posted August 12 the idiocy of over-reaction to a preseason game is astounding 1 2 Quote
dorquemada Posted August 12 Posted August 12 1 hour ago, HardyBoy said: Did you watch the all 22 film? What are you basing them not winning 1 on 1 battles on? Do you know what they were asked to do? Do you realize you're using logical fallacies? Nah, but I've been watching football for 50+ years. The level of cope here that somehow the DL is going to be different this year than last is just silly. 1 Quote
HardyBoy Posted August 12 Posted August 12 21 minutes ago, dorquemada said: Nah, but I've been watching football for 50+ years. The level of cope here that somehow the DL is going to be different this year than last is just silly. Cool, I've been watching football for 35+ years, doesn't mean I have any illusions I have any idea on the nuance on what I'm watching. Even pro film people have to take guesses and make assumptions because they don't know what a specific play call is and what the responsibility of a specific player is on any given play...only way to know that is by being on the team basically. Also, if you've been watching the NFL for that long, you should know that the preseason is completely worthless in terms of telling you anything, and week one is horrible in terms of telling you anything as well, but the preseason is totally worthless...not having that lesson learned...I actually think you likely very much do know that, you've just got some very strong biases at the moment and are looking for anything to support those biases, even if it's awful and worthless data/observations. It's a human nature thing, not a you personally thing...just be aware that maybe, just maybe it's possible that that is happening and it's altering your world view on this topic...it just seems like a visceral reaction that is almost hiding from feeling feelings instead of being driven by a feeling... Quote
buffaloboyinATL Posted August 12 Posted August 12 On 8/10/2025 at 7:14 AM, RobbRiddick said: So after one preseason game it’s clear we won’t get pressure with 4 all season? Coleman didn’t get a big play, clearly he’ll disappoint this year. I mean, it didn't really take that long. I saw posters saying that our Defense was going be awful this year, because the Defense was not better than Offense at the first training camp practice. This guy was down right patient with his analysis. Quote
dayman Posted August 13 Author Posted August 13 On 8/12/2025 at 7:51 AM, Tenhigh said: Great handle, strange take... The take is fairly straightforward. Not meant to imply importance to the first preseason game (or any preseason game), merely to question whether the thing that has held us back in the playoffs will be any different. Quote
Tenhigh Posted August 13 Posted August 13 7 hours ago, dayman said: The take is fairly straightforward. Not meant to imply importance to the first preseason game (or any preseason game), merely to question whether the thing that has held us back in the playoffs will be any different. You said we aren't going to be able to rush the passer with 4, like its a foregone conclusion. Its a strange comment to make with a pretty drastically changed group. Quote
Avisan Posted August 13 Posted August 13 On 8/12/2025 at 9:48 AM, dorquemada said: Nah, but I've been watching football for 50+ years. The level of cope here that somehow the DL is going to be different this year than last is just silly. Our DL was good last season. Our secondary had trouble holding up, though. Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted August 13 Posted August 13 On 8/10/2025 at 7:08 AM, dayman said: Obviously, we didn’t disrupt Wilson doing it vanilla. But even with various stunts, it’s not going to get home. Will we blitz this year? Are we being this on a preseason game? Quote
dayman Posted August 13 Author Posted August 13 1 hour ago, Tenhigh said: You said we aren't going to be able to rush the passer with 4, like its a foregone conclusion. Its a strange comment to make with a pretty drastically changed group. Alright then who is going get home for us when we need it? Not being snarky, seriously, what’s the vision of pass rush look like? Quote
Thurman#1 Posted August 14 Posted August 14 (edited) On 8/10/2025 at 8:08 PM, dayman said: Obviously, we didn’t disrupt Wilson doing it vanilla. But even with various stunts, it’s not going to get home. Will we blitz this year? Not clear at all, not after one preseason game. Not clear at all how guys like Bosa, Hoecht, Sanders, Jackson and Walker will play in this D, nor how others will look playing next to those guys. 13 hours ago, dayman said: The take is fairly straightforward. Not meant to imply importance to the first preseason game (or any preseason game), merely to question whether the thing that has held us back in the playoffs will be any different. It didn't look like that's what you were implying, but if it is, then fair enough. But it's just way way way too early to make any more than uneducated guesses as to whether we'll get much pressure and if we do, how. We'll probably have to wait till after week 8 when we get our first look at how the line looks with Hoecht in the mix before we start to get a good idea, though hopefully by that time the rookies will start to have found their feet and started making some kind of impact. So many inflection points! I mean, if Bosa stays healthy, my guess is this group looks an awful lot better. It's not a sure thing, but it's likely. But he could easily be injured, his history shows that. Will he, with them giving him much fewer snaps? No way to know, and the difference, either way, will probably be stark. Edited August 14 by Thurman#1 Quote
Thurman#1 Posted August 14 Posted August 14 (edited) On 8/12/2025 at 10:48 PM, dorquemada said: Nah, but I've been watching football for 50+ years. The level of cope here that somehow the DL is going to be different this year than last is just silly. Yeah, weird that people would assume that a line with 5 new guys out of probably 10 guys who will see a lot of time would be a bit diff ... oh, wait, it's not silly at all. I've been watching for 50+ years as well. One thing that I learned is that some years things don't change much from the year before, and some years things look totally different. And with so many new guys this year is likely to be the latter. So many inflection points! I mean, if Bosa stays healthy, my guess is this group looks an awful lot better. It's not a sure thing, but it's likely. But he could easily be injured, his history shows that. Will he, with them giving him much fewer snaps? No way to know, and the difference, either way, will probably be stark. They might be much the same. Or not. No way to know beyond watching the games as they happen. Plenty of guesswork is possible, either way, but at this point it's pure blue-sky stuff. Edited August 14 by Thurman#1 Quote
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