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14 minutes ago, dwight in philly said:

I am under the impression the thread  its not about "Glorifying a murderer", more about one's memories about OJ's career here.. 

 

I guess it’s safe to say that you and I are interpreting the purpose of this thread’s creation differently. 
 

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43 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

I guess it’s safe to say that you and I are interpreting the purpose of this thread’s creation differently. 
 

I guess it's safe to say that reading comprehension is not your strong suit.

 

I met OJ as a young kid, when I was with my Father, who was looking at suits, at Sims in the mid 70s.Going 0 for the 70s, I remember the jingle "Miami might have the Orange Bowl, but Buffalo has the Juice.Bills would not still be in Buffalo if not for the Juice.I loved OJ in Naked Gun films.We have so many happy memories of OJ.We all know the tragic and cruel ending between OJ, Nicole, and Ron, and rightfully OJ is vilified.But to us older Bills fans,  OJ was larger than life, prior to his demise.Please post some good OJ memories.  Who was at the Jets game when OJ went over 2000?  Who has met OJ?

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26 minutes ago, Pete said:

I guess it's safe to say that reading comprehension is not your strong suit.

 

I met OJ as a young kid, when I was with my Father, who was looking at suits, at Sims in the mid 70s.Going 0 for the 70s, I remember the jingle "Miami might have the Orange Bowl, but Buffalo has the Juice.Bills would not still be in Buffalo if not for the Juice.I loved OJ in Naked Gun films.We have so many happy memories of OJ.We all know the tragic and cruel ending between OJ, Nicole, and Ron, and rightfully OJ is vilified.But to us older Bills fans,  OJ was larger than life, prior to his demise.Please post some good OJ memories.  Who was at the Jets game when OJ went over 2000?  Who has met OJ?

 

No disrespect, but what if someone had fond memories of Hitler before his rise to power like from high school or college?  Would it be appropriate to talk about how funny he was, how many points he scored in some game, who got to meet or hang out with him, etc you know before all that pesky genocide stuff?  Monsters like OJ don't deserve the remembrance or recognition, especially since he was a woman abuser going back to 1977.

 

Its all good, just saying despite your disclaimer, it isn't going to resonate that way with a lot of people and he doesn't deserve to be memorialized like you are intending here for those "good times" when he was also still abusing women all back then too.   

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46 minutes ago, Pete said:

I guess it's safe to say that reading comprehension is not your strong suit.

 

I met OJ as a young kid, when I was with my Father, who was looking at suits, at Sims in the mid 70s.Going 0 for the 70s, I remember the jingle "Miami might have the Orange Bowl, but Buffalo has the Juice.Bills would not still be in Buffalo if not for the Juice.I loved OJ in Naked Gun films.We have so many happy memories of OJ.We all know the tragic and cruel ending between OJ, Nicole, and Ron, and rightfully OJ is vilified.But to us older Bills fans,  OJ was larger than life, prior to his demise.Please post some good OJ memories.  Who was at the Jets game when OJ went over 2000?  Who has met OJ?


That’s nice. 😘

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3 hours ago, JÂy RÛßeÒ said:

He hurt a knee (on a kick return) in my first in-person game against the Bengals at the Rockpile in 1970 (https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/197011080buf.htm) - he got helped off the field and plopped on the bench right in front of us.  Missed the rest of the season, and we didn't win another game.

 

Spent the 71-72 and 72-73 seasons away from Buffalo.

 

Went to the first preseason and regular season games at Rich Stadiium.  A few weeks into the 2003-yd season we went to an autograph signing he did.  More accurately, he handed out pics that had a pre-printed autograph on it.  I forget where it was, but it was a huge line.

 

Continued going to games in 74-75, but moved away from Buffalo again before the 76 season.  Returned to WNY (Rochester) in 1983 but he was long gone.

 

yada yada yada, he killed his wife.

Yep, I remember that game. He was great at KRs but he never took another one..

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47 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

No disrespect, but what if someone had fond memories of Hitler before his rise to power like from high school or college?  Would it be appropriate to talk about how funny he was, how many points he scored in some game, who got to meet or hang out with him, etc you know before all that pesky genocide stuff?  Monsters like OJ don't deserve the remembrance or recognition, especially since he was a woman abuser going back to 1977.

 

Its all good, just saying despite your disclaimer, it isn't going to resonate that way with a lot of people and he doesn't deserve to be memorialized like you are intending here for those "good times" when he was also still abusing women all back then too.   

You obviously were not a Bills fans in the 70s.  If you were a Bills fan in the 70s, you would have some idea how huge OJ was to Buffalo.  Genocide is worse than murder, both are disgusting crimes against humanity.  But any logical discussion gets ruined when someone drags Hitler into it

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6 minutes ago, Pete said:

You obviously were not a Bills fans in the 70s.  If you were a Bills fan in the 70s, you would have some idea how huge OJ was to Buffalo.  Genocide is worse than murder, both are disgusting crimes against humanity.  But any logical discussion gets ruined when someone drags Hitler into it

 

Genocide is murder.  You seem to be willing to look past it based on the quantity of murder though, so theres that.  Cool

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1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Genocide is murder.  You seem to be willing to look past it based on the quantity of murder though, so theres that.  Cool

I'm sharing childhood memories with my Bills brothers and sisters.  And I enjoy hearing their stories and experiences.  OJ was Hope in the 70s,

1968 Bills won 1 game

1969 Bills won 4 games

1970 Bills won 3 games

1971 Bills won 1 game

1972 Bills won 4 games

 

1973 Bills won 9 games.  Take a wild guess How?

1974 Bills won 9 games.  How?

1975 Bills won 8 games. 

 

Can you see how OJ gave hope to a young Bills fan in 1975?  OJ, Bob Chandler, Graig Nettles, and Gilbert Perreault were my childhood sports heroes. 32, 81, 9, 11.

 

1976 Bills won 2 games.

1977 Bills won 3 games.

1978 Bills won 5 games.

1979 Bills won 7 games.

 

OJ 1973-1976 were probably the greatest 4 year running back stats in history.   Bills were decent only 3 years- do you see the correlation?  

 

Thats my childhood memories, and I don't need anyone pushing their "superior" morals on me

 

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1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Genocide is murder.  You seem to be willing to look past it based on the quantity of murder though, so theres that.  Cool

Trying to eradicate and entire race,  and one psychopath killing 2 people is not equivocal.   By your warped logic, because OJ killed 2 people already, if he killed 3 instead that is not worse.  Thats 3 families suffering instead of 2.  Google genocide history.  Pol Pot is a good start

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9 minutes ago, Pete said:

Google genocide history.  Pol Pot is a good start

 

I typically know what I'm getting when I click on any OJ thread, but I must confess, I did not see the Pol Pot derail coming.

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I can see how this might have worked, but that’s a lot to get over…..so it was never going to happen. 

 

To me, I have some very fond memories from my youth that are OJ related. The TV special when we drafted him was a great summer for me. I used to go to McMahon’s on Main Street on occasion with my parents on the same night he went there (Thurs or Fridays?). We’d ride by his house in Chapel Woods after games when he had a lot of the team over and yell stupid stuff out the car windows. 

 

None of this is meant to idolize him now, it was just some of the fun stuff from growing up. I’m a Bills fan, but I wear Bills gear, not jersey’s because I don’t look up to players like that. You never really know. If you never had them raised up on a pedestal, there’s not as much damage when they fall.

 

Despite what came years later, those were good times for me and I won’t let anyone take that away from me because they hate him.

 

Just one guy’s opinion when he knew he should have just stayed quite. 😊 

 

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22 minutes ago, QCity said:

 

I typically know what I'm getting when I click on any OJ thread, but I must confess, I did not see the Pol Pot derail coming.

 

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42 minutes ago, Pete said:

I'm sharing childhood memories with my Bills brothers and sisters.  And I enjoy hearing their stories and experiences.  OJ was Hope in the 70s,

1968 Bills won 1 game

1969 Bills won 4 games

1970 Bills won 3 games

1971 Bills won 1 game

1972 Bills won 4 games

 

1973 Bills won 9 games.  Take a wild guess How?

1974 Bills won 9 games.  How?

1975 Bills won 8 games. 

 

Can you see how OJ gave hope to a young Bills fan in 1975?  OJ, Bob Chandler, Graig Nettles, and Gilbert Perreault were my childhood sports heroes. 32, 81, 9, 11.

 

1976 Bills won 2 games.

1977 Bills won 3 games.

1978 Bills won 5 games.

1979 Bills won 7 games.

 

OJ 1973-1976 were probably the greatest 4 year running back stats in history.   Bills were decent only 3 years- do you see the correlation?  

 

Thats my childhood memories, and I don't need anyone pushing their "superior" morals on me

 

 

Well lucky for you that you have the benefit of not having to live through a loved one being murdered and know that destruction of your life and family.  It has nothing to do with "superior" morals and everything to do with I know the destruction he caused those families, and I don't care if it was 1 family, 2 families or 200,000 families - it doesn't lessen it to any degree of how it affected those individual families.  It is alone the single most destructive thing another human can do to another human and their loved ones, and doing it to less people doesn't make him less of a monster. 

 

But hey, to each their own.  You want celebrate and remember him, you are free to do so.  But you are choosing to do this on a public forum, so just don't be so surprised or offended when other people don't share your sentiment of celebrating the "fond" memories about a man who not only abused women during the reign of those fond memories, but brutally butchered 2 lives and destroyed those families forever.   

 

I said my piece and will leave it alone - at least until the sequel thread of fond memories of Rae Carruth loI

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22 minutes ago, QCity said:

 

I typically know what I'm getting when I click on any OJ thread, but I must confess, I did not see the Pol Pot derail coming.

 

I’m not sure if it was a long and winding road, or a highway to Hell, but here we are!!! 😂 

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28 minutes ago, Augie said:

I can see how this might have worked, but that’s a lot to get over…..so it was never going to happen. 

 

To me, I have some very fond memories from my youth that are OJ related. The TV special when we drafted him was a great summer for me. I used to go to McMahon’s on Main Street on occasion with my parents on the same night he went there (Thurs or Fridays?). We’d ride by his house in Chapel Woods after games when he had a lot of the team over and yell stupid stuff out the car windows. 

 

None of this is meant to idolize him now, it was just some of the fun stuff from growing up. I’m a Bills fan, but I wear Bills gear, not jersey’s because I don’t look up to players like that. You never really know. If you never had them raised up on a pedestal, there’s not as much damage when they fall.

 

Despite what came years later, those were good times for me and I won’t let anyone take that away from me because they hate him.

 

Just one guy’s opinion when he knew he should have just stayed quite. 😊 

 

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I have a Josh Allen, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Jim Kelly, and throwbacks  Bob Chandler & Cookie Gilchrest jerseys. So I’ll buy them but I’m very selective.

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8 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

I have a Josh Allen, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Jim Kelly and throwback Bob Chandler jersey. So I’ll buy them but I’m very selective.

 

I’m must say, if I had to choose four, that might be my lineup! I’d mix in a Butch Byrd if I could, because that man let me survive after I exploded an egg all over his nice suit. A long story from long ago, but a very vivid memory from my childhood, about 4th grade. 

 

I’m not anti-jersey or anything, my son and DIL have plenty, it’s just a me thing. My youngest boy got his brother a signed Bruce jersey when he really couldn’t afford that. It became his, and now hangs proudly in his Bill viewing room. It’s a jersey and a family treasure. 

 

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4 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Well lucky for you that you have the benefit of not having to live through a loved one being murdered and know that destruction of your life and family.  It has nothing to do with "superior" morals and everything to do with I know the destruction he caused those families, and I don't care if it was 1 family, 2 families or 200,000 families - it doesn't lessen it to any degree of how it affected those individual families.  It is alone the single most destructive thing another human can do to another human and their loved ones, and doing it to less people doesn't make him less of a monster. 

 

But hey, to each their own.  You want celebrate and remember him, you are free to do so.  But you are choosing to do this on a public forum, so just don't be so surprised or offended when other people don't share your sentiment of celebrating the "fond" memories about a man who not only abused women during the reign of those fond memories, but brutally butchered 2 lives and destroyed those families forever.   

 

I said my piece and will leave it alone - at least until the sequel thread of fond memories of Rae Carruth loI

I'm truly sorry for you and your family. I wish you all peace. 

 

I understand your views.  We have different starting points, places, people, experiences in our life, and me and you Alphadawg7 are Bills Mafia here today.  Life is-You and Others See a 6, others see a 9-everthing is perspective.  

 

 

"A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic."

 

Peace brother.

 

Go Bills!

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