Celebrating the Bills

[EasternOHBillsFan]

18 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

You can feel that way if you want, but I think you're wrong. 

 

Are Tom Cruise, Johnny Depp, Ed Norton, and Bradley Cooper failures because they never won an Oscar?

 

McDermott has coached 8 seasons. If he goes 16 more seasons on the same pace as he's on now, and never wins a Super Bowl, he'll be fifth on the all-time win list. That's failure? 

 

Dan Marino was a failure?  

 

 

 

At one time Andy Reid was considered a failure and was made fun of. Just think how it sounds now as compared to before the 2015 season if you said then that Andy Reid is a great Hall of Fame caliber coach, people would laugh.

 

McDermott has been coaching for 8 full seasons... It took ANOTHER THIRTEEN SEASONS PAST THAT before Andy Reid won his first Super Bowl. McDermott is adapting and actually replacing staff members to get better, and that is a huge plus in my book. I'm with you on this one, Shaw.

Edited July 7 by EasternOHBillsFan

[Gregg]

Just now, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

At one time Andy Reid was considered a failure and was made fun of. Just think how it sounds now as compared to before the 2015 season if you said then that Andy Reid is a great Hall of Fame caliber coach, people would laugh.

 

McDermott has been coaching for 8 full seasons... It took ANOTHER THIRTEEN SEASONS PAST THAT before Andy Reid won his first Super Bowl. I'm with you on this one, Shaw.

 

You better hope you are wrong for Allen's sake. If it takes McDermott as long as it did Reid to win a Super Bowl, then the only way Allen is winning one is with another team.

[EasternOHBillsFan]

2 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

You better hope you are wrong for Allen's sake. If it takes McDermott as long as it did Reid to win a Super Bowl, then the only way Allen is winning one is with another team.

I think that you aren't seeing what I see... I think BRANDON BEANE is the one on the hot seat if this defense isn't getting better. His moves to bring onboard injured players and gap filler free agents so far has been a mixed bag... free agency has not been kind to the Bills. BEANE is the one that should be on the hot seat if this fresh crop of free agents fails.

[Gregg]

Just now, EasternOHBillsFan said:

I think that you aren't seeing what I see... I think BRANDON BEANE is the one on the hot seat if this defense isn't getting better. His moves to bring onboard injured players and gap filler free agents so far has been a mixed bag... free agency has not been kind to the Bills. BEANE is the one that should be on the hot seat if this fresh crop of free agents fails.

 

JMHO but I think Terry is happy with both Beane and McDermott. Despite not winning a Super Bowl the Bills have done a lot of winning during the Allen era. If anything, I would say the GM/HC of the Sabres are the ones who seats are hot. They have been a clown show for way to long now.

[EasternOHBillsFan]

1 hour ago, Gregg said:

 

JMHO but I think Terry is happy with both Beane and McDermott. Despite not winning a Super Bowl the Bills have done a lot of winning during the Allen era. If anything, I would say the GM/HC of the Sabres are the ones who seats are hot. They have been a clown show for way to long now.

 

Marty Schottenheimer did a lot of winning with less talent on offense and he still got canned. I feel that the WR flare up this offseason is indicative of the discontent that is growing within the fan base, because we should be doing more to give Josh and the team help and Beane needs to step up his game. We can't afford to make questionable moves and although I am not going to Chicken Little the situation, I am also not going to ignore issues that may cost Josh a chance at a championship.

[SoonerBillsFan]

On 7/6/2025 at 4:54 PM, Shaw66 said:

There's nothing to talk about. We've had all of the conversations about receivers, about Cook, about the defense, about not winning the Super Bowl, about just about everything.

 

Since there's nothing left to talk about, I find myself thinking about how amazingly good this football team has gotten.  I say it often; when McDermott and Beane got here, they said they were going to build a team that keeps getting better and better, and that is what they've done. 

 

I've been thinking since I saw the thread about the Bills being the favorite, at least clearly in the top three, to make it to the Super Bowl. We can argue about whether we agree or not, but the reality is that among the bookmakers and bettors, there is a clear consensus that the Bills are at the very top of the league. And it's a bigger consensus than it was a year ago and two years ago.  Granted, everyone thought the Bills would have a down season last year, but their success last season has convinced many people outside of western New York that the Bills were genuinely good last season and only got better in the off-season. 

 

And it's not simply because the Bills have Allen and because he's just that good. Put aside that Beane did a masterful job identifying Allen as the talent he is and then managing the draft to be able to get him; people around the country are recognizing that the other 21 starters, and the bench, make this a seriously good football team. 

 

And the Bills are set up to get better in the 2026 season, with the QB under contract, the salary cap getting back in order, and the opportunity to add more young talent in the draft. 

 

Everyone is looking at the Bills as a model franchise. Everyone thinks it's when, not if, the Bills win the Lombardi.

 

Hats off to McDermott and Beane. Now, '25, '26  '27, is the time complete the climb to the top. 

We are winning the Superbowl this year. 

[Buffalo716]

42 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

Marty Schottenheimer did a lot of winning with less talent on offense and he still got canned. I feel that the WR flare up this offseason is indicative of the discontent that is growing within the fan base, because we should be doing more to give Josh and the team help and Beane needs to step up his game. We can't afford to make questionable moves and although I am not going to Chicken Little the situation, I am also not going to ignore issues that may cost Josh a chance at a championship.

Josh Allen has a top five offensive line.. a top five running back group 

 

A defense that is top five in turnovers every year

 

There's a salary cap there's always going to be a place that you're not filled with world beaters.. and I'm perfectly fine it's at the most diva position.. where we have enough talent 

 

I would never trade our roster for the Bengals.. just because they have two stud wide receivers

[Pokebball]

6 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Josh Allen has a top five offensive line.. a top five running back group 

 

A defense that is top five in turnovers every year

 

There's a salary cap there's always going to be a place that you're not filled with world beaters.. and I'm perfectly fine it's at the most diva position.. where we have enough talent 

 

I would never trade our roster for the Bengals.. just because they have two stud wide receivers

You think Josh has had a defense that could get it done?

[Buffalo716]

8 minutes ago, Pokebball said:

You think Josh has had a defense that could get it done?

If we were fully healthy at the end of the season dude , yes we have enough

 

Like I've played coach and scouted for 30 years I'm not a big excuse guy. yet the Buffalo Bills had 12 players on the injury report going against Kansas City 

 

 8 on defense...

 

Yes that actually is a massive problem in a win or take all game.. with Christian Benford and Taylor rapp yes I think we win the game 

 

There's been like 4 seasons almost where we are destroyed on defense 

 

 it'd be one thing if we were missing one player or two players were banged up.. we go into January with eight guys banged up on defense and that is too much to overcome

 

Even if we went to the super bowl against the eagles our offensive line would have kept us in a much closer game because Josh Allen would not be running for his life all day.. our offensive line would have kept us way closer than the Chiefs

 

But having eight guys dinged up versus Patrick mahomes is never a recipe for success.. that's why winning a super bowl takes as much luck as skill 

 

Because if we could get into deep January with only two defensive players banged up yes I think we're going to win it all

 

Winning a super bowl takes as much luck as it does team talent because so many crazy things happen between January and February and that is the truth 

 

 I think it's 100% a different game with a healthy Christian Benford and a healthy Taylor rapp the entire game.. who was our best safety the whole year

Edited July 7 by Buffalo716

[Figster]

9 hours ago, Gregg said:

 

At the end of the day if they don't win a Super Bowl then the Beane/McDermott era will be considered a failure. Regular season wins are nice and fun to watch. Winning the division is great. Playoff wins are also great. They still need to win a Lombardi especially with a QB as good as #17. If there was ever a fanbase that deserves to see their team win a championship its Bills fans.

This is all true. Especially #17

 

Sending Tasker over the falls in a barrel to appease the Football Gods might work? 

 

Thanks OP

Edited July 8 by Figster

[machine gun kelly]

18 hours ago, ChevyVanMiller said:

in quicksand...

 

This always reminds me of the classroom discussion of fear, and Shane Falco talks about Quicksand.  Quicksand is exactly the way I feel it was like being in the drought.  We were in quicksand.

 

Shaw, I believe is reminding us of that feeling vs.now.  We always have a shot, every year, but 31 teams are disappointed every year including us.

 

Thanks Shaw as I appreciate it.  It seems more and more popular to criticize everything about the leadership of the team, yet forgetting all too quickly the quicksand of 17 years of a drought.

[Gregg]

13 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

Marty Schottenheimer did a lot of winning with less talent on offense and he still got canned. I feel that the WR flare up this offseason is indicative of the discontent that is growing within the fan base, because we should be doing more to give Josh and the team help and Beane needs to step up his game. We can't afford to make questionable moves and although I am not going to Chicken Little the situation, I am also not going to ignore issues that may cost Josh a chance at a championship.

 

To be fair to Beane he did a lot this offseason to improve the defense. Will these moves payoff is the big question. I agree you 100% on the WR situation. Beane needs to go out and find another "Diggs" for Allen to throw to without the drama queen antics of course that Diggs showed towards the end of his time here.

12 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Josh Allen has a top five offensive line.. a top five running back group 

 

A defense that is top five in turnovers every year

 

There's a salary cap there's always going to be a place that you're not filled with world beaters.. and I'm perfectly fine it's at the most diva position.. where we have enough talent 

 

I would never trade our roster for the Bengals.. just because they have two stud wide receivers

 

The problem with the defense is it has been a paper tiger defense. They pad their stats against bad/mediocre offenses but when facing a good offense, they have gotten exposed as the playoffs have shown. They haven't been great against the run, and they have had trouble getting to the QB with just their front 4. If the moves Beane made this offseason improve the run D and pass rush without blitzing, then a Super Bowl championship is a very realistic goal for the Bills.

[Mister Defense]

Great post, sentiments that almost all true Bills' fans can agree with.

 

But unfortunately your accurate words are clear triggers for a bunch of haters, as they cannot stomach those thoughts and want only their irrational doom and gloom to dominate this message board and in as many threads as they can take over.

 

Their fury will not allow this thread to stand as is, and that is clear already. As I have said before: Imagine Yosemite Sam, face turning a brighter red with each breath, smoke steaming out if his ears until his hat explodes off his head, as unintelligible curses stream from his mouth.  

 

 

 

Edited July 8 by Mister Defense

[Gugny]

The Bills are “The Bills” … the perennial playoff team … because of Josh Allen. 
 

Give credit to Beane and/or McDermott for drafting him. 
 

The Bills are also “The Bills” … the lovable losers …. because of Beane and McDermott. 
 

It’s sickening and borderline pathetic how they’ve failed to put the right pieces in place to win a Super Bowl yet. 
 

Celebrating regular season warriors doesn’t sit well with me. 
 

Show me the mother ***** baby. 
 

[EasternOHBillsFan]

35 minutes ago, Gugny said:

The Bills are “The Bills” … the perennial playoff team … because of Josh Allen. 
 

Give credit to Beane and/or McDermott for drafting him. 
 

The Bills are also “The Bills” … the lovable losers …. because of Beane and McDermott. 
 

It’s sickening and borderline pathetic how they’ve failed to put the right pieces in place to win a Super Bowl yet. 
 

Celebrating regular season warriors doesn’t sit well with me. 
 

Show me the mother ***** baby. 
 

 

That's where we are at right now. I put this more on Beane because of this odd moves. Still waiting for them to pay off on defense and at WR.