UPDATE: ISRAEL V IRAN - Trump just announced we bombed Fordow

[B-Man]

18 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Hang on a second.

 

 

I was told that we were just at war with Iran’s nuclear program, not Iran. 
 

Could it be that I was lied to AGAIN?

 

 

Could it be that you are misinterpreting things through you flawed personal filter again ?

 

Certainly looks so 

 

Roundy-one-note.

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

6 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Have to hope our intelligence agencies are up to the task. 
 

We know terrorists and Chinese Nationals have been coming across the border.  
 

China buying up land.  
 

There is zero reason any of the above should have been so easily occurring. 
 

So now we have to pray we can snuff them out.   But we can’t just sit around making foreign policy decisions off fear of foreign countries activating sleeper cells in our country because multiple Presidents.. especially our most recent one pre-Trump, allowed this to be a major concern. 
 

I do enjoy the sudden concern of sleeper cells now that Trump is President.. didn’t hear much from yall on this topic when Biden’s corpse was allowing whoever wanted to come into our country.  
 

I don't believe the sleeper cell nonsense 

[Roundybout]

4 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Could it be that you are misinterpreting things through you flawed personal filter again ?

 

Certainly looks so 

 

Roundy-one-note.

Not sure what there is to misinterpret. It’s particularly clear how you will never admit Trump lied to you. 

[Big Blitz]

America needs a quick version of Iraq War 1 with no boots on the ground - just to remind us and the world that we are not to be f…ed with, we’re the worlds superpower, and we are a force for good.  
 

Our last 2 wars need to serve as reminders of what we’re supposed to do.  
 

Kill bad guys and break things.  Leave.  If they want our help and we are welcomed in doing so they can have it.  We can’t stay and bring democracy like magic.  
 

 

 

If Iran successfully announced to the world sometime later this year that they had a nuke - you don’t need me to tell you what the fallout from that would be.  
 

And that is why the 7 pearl clutching MAGA influencers that think we’re suddenly nation building - need to chill.  

Edited 5 hours ago by Big Blitz

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said:

I don't believe the sleeper cell nonsense 

Fair enough.  I hope you’re correct. 
 

I think we almost certainly have terrorists in this country.  Certainly those sympathetic to foreign causes that could be radicalized.  Pretty much every Western country now has that concern. 
 

But as far as coordinated sleeper cells.. I know there is monitoring/concern of that by our intelligence agencies.. how coordinated and how sophisticated remains unclear as to whether they could actually pull something off. 

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

Just now, Big Blitz said:

America needs a quick version of Iraq War 1 with no boots on the ground  

How would that look? We join in Israel's bombing campaign? 

[Big Blitz]

1 minute ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said:

How would that look? We join in Israel's bombing campaign? 

 

Yes.  And the Iranian regime unconditional surrender.   Or they are all killed.  

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

1 minute ago, SCBills said:

Fair enough.  I hope you’re correct. 
 

I think we almost certainly have terrorists in this country.  Certainly those sympathetic to foreign causes that could be radicalized.  Pretty much every Western country now has that concern. 
 

But as far as coordinated sleeper cells.. I know there is monitoring/concern of that by our intelligence agencies.. how coordinated and how sophisticated remains unclear as to whether they could actually pull something off. 

Sure, some crazy person can be manipulated into being Mr. Jihadi for June, or something, but I don't think there are "cells" of young men waiting in Atlanta or something waiting for order 

[Roundybout]

2 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Fair enough.  I hope you’re correct. 
 

I think we almost certainly have terrorists in this country.  Certainly those sympathetic to foreign causes that could be radicalized.  Pretty much every Western country now has that concern. 
 

But as far as coordinated sleeper cells.. I know there is monitoring/concern of that by our intelligence agencies.. how coordinated and how sophisticated remains unclear as to whether they could actually pull something off. 

Don’t fret. Trump hired a 22-year-old landscaper/grocery bagger for his anti-terrorist intel team. Only the best and brightest!

[sherpa]

5 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

 

I guess we can disengage from these ancient disputes, right? That seems to be a big motivator for Trump voters, right?

 

No.  I guess not.

 

 

 

This is way beyond energy guarantees.

That issue has been largely de-weaponized.

Disruptions would have short term effect, but nothing like the old days.

 

The elimination of a rogue regime that has been at war with us for 45 years, killing thousands, and has an expressed intent of eliminating Israel and the US could prevent many future wars.

Removing their military offensive capability is doable.

Regime change is on their people though.

 

Want to live in peaceful coexistence, or want to pursue some wacky religious 12th Imam end times strategy? 

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

Just now, Big Blitz said:

 

Yes.  And the Iranian regime unconditional surrender.   Or they are all killed.  

Bomb the regime officials until they say uncle. I dunno, Hamas is still around after all that bombing in that small area. Not sure it could work in a country the size of Iran 

[Roundybout]

Just now, sherpa said:

 

This is way beyond energy guarantees.

That issue has been largely de-weaponized.

Disruptions would have short term effect, but nothing like the old days.

 

The elimination of a rogue regime that has been at war with us for 45 years, killing thousands, and has an expressed intent of eliminating Israel and the US could prevent many future wars.

Removing their military offensive capability is doable.

Regime change is on their people though.

 

Want to live in peaceful coexistence, or want to pursue some wacky religious 12th Imam end times strategy? 

If you don’t follow through on the regime change, you create Libya. Or Iran circa 1979. 

[Big Blitz]

Just now, Roundybout said:

Don’t fret. Trump hired a 22-year-old landscaper/grocery bagger for his anti-terrorist intel team. Only the best and brightest!

 

What did our Chicago street agitator bring to the table?  
 

 

I think you folks on the left confuse the “everything is smooth we’re in great hands look at how competent no scandals” fake news narrative you got from the Obama and the Biden administration was real.  
 

In reality they were an incompetent disaster.  
 

 

The media portrays all things Trump administration as chaos and incompetent. 
 

When in reality the work they do is competent and there is a plan.  
 

 

You fall for the media script.  Like clockwork.  
 

 

[Roundybout]

1 minute ago, Big Blitz said:

 

What did our Chicago street agitator bring to the table?  
 

 

I think you folks on the left confuse the “everything is smooth we’re in great hands look at how competent no scandals” fake news narrative you got from the Obama and the Biden administration was real.  
 

In reality they were an incompetent disaster.  
 

 

The media portrays all things Trump administration as chaos and incompetent. 
 

When in reality the work they do is competent and there is a plan.  
 

 

You fall for the media script.  Like clockwork.  
 

 

Yes, the plan is to start another war in the Middle East while ramming through a disaster budget that will overwhelmingly harm the lower class and sell off America’s public lands to private interests. We know. 

[SCBills]

 

[JDHillFan]

5 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

WW3

[Roundybout]

Iran doesn’t want nukes to blow up Israel, they want nukes as a guarantee against regime change. They’re not ISIS, they are trying to preserve the Islamic Revolution.

[May Day 10]

Im skeptical that there are these Iranian sleeper cells sitting here waiting.  Im not sure why they would be waiting or what they would be waiting for.  The leadership already hates and distrusts the USA to the maximum and would have just struck.

 

They had a gun to the head of Israel to a point and also had Russia in its corner.  However, Russia is preoccupied and weakened by the Ukraine situation, and Israel has recently devastated Hamas and Hezbollah.    Iran's best defense was to have a large fighting force, decently modernized, with Russia using them as a proxy, and depending on a regional war aimed at Israel.  Most of that opportunity is gone as is the deterrent for 'intervention' as we have seen in the past 10 days.

 

 

 

 

 

[JDHillFan]

5 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Iran doesn’t want nukes to blow up Israel, they want nukes as a guarantee against regime change. They’re not ISIS, they are trying to preserve the Islamic Revolution.

Are you willing to share your basis for the claim “Iran does not want to blow up Israel”?

[TH3]

39 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

America needs a quick version of Iraq War 1 with no boots on the ground - just to remind us and the world that we are not to be f…ed with, we’re the worlds superpower, and we are a force for good.  
 

Our last 2 wars need to serve as reminders of what we’re supposed to do.  
 

Kill bad guys and break things.  Leave.  If they want our help and we are welcomed in doing so they can have it.  We can’t stay and bring democracy like magic.  
 

 

 

If Iran successfully announced to the world sometime later this year that they had a nuke - you don’t need me to tell you what the fallout from that would be.  
 

And that is why the 7 pearl clutching MAGA influencers that think we’re suddenly nation building - need to chill.  

I think you need to read up on IW1