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1 hour ago, SirAndrew said:

14 Ohio State players were chosen in the 2025 draft alone

And that tied an all-time record for the school's 135 year football history, and represents 20.5% of all active OSU players in the NFL. Best not to use statistical extremes to make your point.

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1 hour ago, SirAndrew said:

14 Ohio State players were chosen in the 2025 draft alone, and that doesn’t include underclassmen on the 2024 roster who will declare in future years. 

 

Just for comparison:

In the 2024 UFL season, over 77 UFL players signed with NFL teams, representing more than 19% of the players who participated in the UFL season. The UFL had 400 players in the 2024 season. Additionally, the UFL announced that 21 UFL players are currently on NFL rosters. 

 

How bad can UFL players be if almost 20% get NFL camp invites?

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52 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

I didn't, and you changed a variable to "starting" to try to disprove my point. Even using your preferred metric, 82% of Ohio State's starting lineup is future salesman or Amazon delivery drivers. Maybe that's actually worse than 95% of the entire roster.
 

And that would be an incorrect thing to think. 7 total Ohio State players "got a chance" in the NFL. (4 on active roster). None had their rights drafted by the UFL. Steele Chambers (what a name), is the lone member of the Ohio State 2024 class currently in the UFL. That's 5 players across two leagues.

I never changed the variable, I said “starting lineup” in my first post. My point is if the NFL drafted 14 Ohio State players, I think Ohio State might be able to beat a UFL team. That was the original topic. Some of those guys will be NFL starters, and the rest will be UFL level guys. The UFL doesn’t have any NFL starting caliber players, so why couldn’t OSU beat a UFL team? How is 82% of OSU’s starting lineup future salesmen if 14 guys got drafted this year? I don’t get your math, but I appreciate your take, I just disagree. 

48 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

And that tied an all-time record for the school's 135 year football history, and represents 20.5% of all active OSU players in the NFL. Best not to use statistical extremes to make your point.

This is a statistical extreme, that’s a good point, but I think it’s going to be common in the NIL world of college football. I’ve noticed the NFL draft increasingly dominated by several college teams. 

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On 6/7/2025 at 5:51 PM, Steptide said:

Said it a few times this season, but this league has improved. Be it, probably with some help from the refs. Most games come down to the final few minutes, and there have been some crazy plays this year. Hopefully these games are good 

Im starting to see the value in Vince McMahon scripting games. You could make most games intriguing by default, like a yearly showdown with the league's top QBs that always seemingly comes down to the last play in the regular season, only to culminate in a close showdown in the playoffs, like a match between Hogan and Macho Man, or Stone Cold and The Rock. Knowing Vince, he'd probably do something like getting a popular music artist to date one of the players, a la bringing in Cindy Lauper and creating the Rock n Wrestling Connection. Imagine if the NFL used a pop singer to boost ratings? Like imagine if the league had a bunch of snafus that caused a dip in ratings, like a player disrespecting the flag or something? Maybe even give that team a boost to keep them front and center, you can bring in that singer's fans..

 

Oh wait..

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On 6/9/2025 at 2:33 PM, PromoTheRobot said:

How bad can UFL players be if almost 20% get NFL camp invites?

 

Well, the other 80% are clearly a$$.

 

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hard to believe it was possible, but ratings actually dropped from last season---by a whopping 20%.

 

how long will ABC/ESPN/Fox hang in there with this?  

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Just now, Mr. WEO said:

hard to believe it was possible, but ratings actually dropped from last season---by a whopping 20%.

 

how long will ABC/ESPN/Fox hang in there with this?  

 

I think putting some of these teams in enormous stadiums is weird, and the TV money is really the only thing that keeps this going.  They have fewer teams and games than the NLL for example, and average less attendance than the bandits.  They limit the roster size more than the NFL does to keep payroll down.  I'm sure travel and expenses cuts a lot of that.

 

Pro football requires a certain size of surface so something like a tour becomes challenging as you have to either use university or NFL resources.  Even premier league teams tour in the offseason, but with UFL money its going to be difficult - and part of what makes sports exciting is rooting for your team.  

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Just now, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

I think putting some of these teams in enormous stadiums is weird, and the TV money is really the only thing that keeps this going.  They have fewer teams and games than the NLL for example, and average less attendance than the bandits.  They limit the roster size more than the NFL does to keep payroll down.  I'm sure travel and expenses cuts a lot of that.

 

Pro football requires a certain size of surface so something like a tour becomes challenging as you have to either use university or NFL resources.  Even premier league teams tour in the offseason, but with UFL money its going to be difficult - and part of what makes sports exciting is rooting for your team.  

 

while the team in St Louis seems to draw the biggest crowds (4ok sometimes) there are games pulling in just over 2000 fans in the stands.  Where are they supposed to put a game like that?  High school fields? 

 

Unfortunately in this case "the networks" aren't simply the broadcasters of this sport, they are part owners of the league.  so they have to fund the league with their own "TV money".   it's a poor model 

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42 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

hard to believe it was possible, but ratings actually dropped from last season---by a whopping 20%.

 

how long will ABC/ESPN/Fox hang in there with this?  

 

One of Promo's 4 friends stopped watching.

 

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8 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

while the team in St Louis seems to draw the biggest crowds (4ok sometimes) there are games pulling in just over 2000 fans in the stands.  Where are they supposed to put a game like that?  High school fields? 

 

Unfortunately in this case "the networks" aren't simply the broadcasters of this sport, they are part owners of the league.  so they have to fund the league with their own "TV money".   it's a poor model 

 

Yeah, its a mess.  Can't put them in prime time because then you're competing with NHL/NBA/MLB and even other things like Wrestling and reality tv.  So now you're airing on weekend days like the NFL/NCAA but, there's still going to be some competition with other sports (plus playoffs for NHL and NBA) and you add in golf.    

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