Mr. WEO Posted Sunday at 07:08 PM Posted Sunday at 07:08 PM (edited) 32 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said: You keep saying the successor is going to “demand” the exact same compensation, now you want to move off it. You can’t defend this position. It’s obvious. You don’t actually think that Goodell in his first year as commissioner made the exact same as Tagliabue did in year 17. Because it’s really silly to think. Why wouldn't a successor (picked by Goodell himself) not demand the same? Whether he gets it or not who knows, but why would he not ask for it? Makes no sense not to. Tags got paid 8 million his final year. Goodell had already made 6.9 million by his 7th month as Tags replacement 19 years ago. So you're wrong there too. Edited Sunday at 07:26 PM by Mr. WEO Quote
US Egg Posted Sunday at 07:16 PM Posted Sunday at 07:16 PM 45 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Goodell has nothing to do with what individual owners charge fans to enter the stadium. Likewise, he didn't decide to sell the product to streamers. The demand was there. The demand isn't there for these other sports--which really become relevant only during the playoffs.... Point I contested was that it was asserted the Commissioners in the NBA, NHL and MLB, unlike Goodell, were screwing over their fans. 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted Sunday at 07:25 PM Posted Sunday at 07:25 PM 8 minutes ago, US Egg said: Point I contested was that it was asserted the Commissioners in the NBA, NHL and MLB, unlike Goodell, were screwing over their fans. not screwing over—other than providing nearly unwatchable product Quote
RoscoeParrish Posted Sunday at 07:39 PM Posted Sunday at 07:39 PM On 5/30/2025 at 2:27 PM, Mr. WEO said: by whom? 66 isn't old fellas. More of his bosses are over 80 than are under 65. Why would a younger guy take less money? Didn't Goodell "set the market"? On 5/31/2025 at 12:25 PM, Mr. WEO said: The NFL was no anything like the money maker it has become under Goodell. The TV contracts he helped negotiate were astronomical and keep getting bigger. Teams are typically sold or handed down to children, so comparison to NFL Commissioner succession makes no sense at all. Goodell only does #4 and 5. the rest is the owners exclusively. Waiting in the wings for what? Goodell could stay another 15 years. Why would the next guy accept less than Goodell makes now? Same job. How did you conclude that 66 is "too old" to be Commissioner. There is only overwhelming evidence that this is completely untrue. What you got? And Who has done this better than Goodell--and why would youth be more innovative? Goodell is printing money for these owners for decades. Why would they be looking to someone else right now? These owners should know any of the NFL Corp staff and who might be a good fit next without Goodell telling them who it is. So is every next Commissioner, FO person, player or owner. So what? Does anyone think these owners are going to put the league in the hands of a chump like Dean Blandino (a replay ref)?? Goodell knows everybody there is to know in the NFL universe--most importantly the broadcasters and advertisers. Imagine these people seeing Dean Blandino across the bargaining table instead of Goodell? They would be licking their chops as the owners watched billions fall off the table. 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Well none of this is applicable for obvious reasons. There is only 1 NFL Commissioner. Why would the next guy take less than the current guy gets paid? 28 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Why wouldn't a successor (picked by Goodell himself) not demand the same? Whether he gets it or not who knows, but why would he not ask for it? Makes no sense not to. Tags got paid 8 million his final year. Goodell had already made 6.9 million by his 7th month as Tags replacement 19 years ago. So you're wrong there too. Is this your MO or something? Very bizarre to argue something for 3 pages to end with “who knows if he’d get the same salary as the other guy.” Quote
US Egg Posted Sunday at 07:55 PM Posted Sunday at 07:55 PM 29 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: not screwing over—other than providing nearly unwatchable product Outside of the Bills, I don’t prioritize watching football until the playoffs. The NFL has become more sideshow than I ever imagined. 2 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted Sunday at 08:37 PM Posted Sunday at 08:37 PM 53 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said: Is this your MO or something? Very bizarre to argue something for 3 pages to end with “who knows if he’d get the same salary as the other guy.” I've consistently stood by my opinion the next guy would want the same salary, and would be foolish not to demand it (you kindly quoted me as proof--thank you!). You, on the other hand, keep coming up with arguments that oppose your own position (like saying Goodell took less than Tags, for instance). You aren't making sense. Obviously I acknowledge that none of us now know what the next guy would be paid--that's a point not worth making...and this is your "MO". Quote
ProcessTruster Posted Sunday at 11:23 PM Posted Sunday at 11:23 PM On 5/30/2025 at 1:00 PM, MJS said: Sounds smart. He wants to be the only option. all things considered, Goodell has been a big success. Quote
TBBills Fan Posted Sunday at 11:35 PM Posted Sunday at 11:35 PM On 5/31/2025 at 11:27 AM, US Egg said: Senseless booing is a trait of the buffoon usually in camaraderie with those of their ilk. It’s punctuated by the all uniting high-five and screams of yaaahhhh!!! It is quite in vogue nowadays. In wrestling it's called a "cheap pop" For example a wrestler, or a musician will loudly say the name of the city they are in and then the crowd erupts in unison "Hell yeah, I'm from Des Moines" Quote
GunnerBill Posted yesterday at 08:55 AM Posted yesterday at 08:55 AM 12 hours ago, US Egg said: Outside of the Bills, I don’t prioritize watching football until the playoffs. The NFL has become more sideshow than I ever imagined. You are entitled to do that. Spend your time as you wish. But you are in the minority. TV viewing numbers remain very strong. There was a very slight dip in 2024 from the record high in 2023 but well within the margin of normal variance. 1 Quote
Doc Brown Posted yesterday at 09:34 AM Posted yesterday at 09:34 AM 10 hours ago, ProcessTruster said: all things considered, Goodell has been a big success. Just looking at how the NFL navigated the COVID year was damn impressive. The fact that he got all those games in was a miracle imo. 1 Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted yesterday at 01:02 PM Posted yesterday at 01:02 PM On 5/30/2025 at 12:36 PM, Einstein said: When making more than $60 million per year, it’s hard for anyone to have a bad week. Still, last week was not ideal for Commissioner Roger Goodell. "In a conversation with John Ourand of Puck, ESPN.com’s Seth Wickersham said that an extension will happen — but that owners want Goodell to focus on a succession plan. 'Owners would like to have a better sense of the bench,' Wickersham told Ourand. The problem is that there isn’t much of a bench. And, frankly, there’s been a trend in recent years that, once an in-house name emerges as a potentially viable candidate to become the next commissioner, the person ends up not sticking around much longer. From Dean Blandino to Chris Halpin to Tod Leiweke to Maryann Turcke, they came, they saw, and they were gone long before they could conquer." https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/succession-plan-hovers-over-roger-goodells-contract-situation I can't stand Mike Florio. Quote
US Egg Posted yesterday at 01:48 PM Posted yesterday at 01:48 PM 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: You are entitled to do that. Spend your time as you wish. But you are in the minority. Well, thank you. Appreciate the ok. Being in the minority, appreciate your affirmation Quote
chongli Posted yesterday at 02:33 PM Posted yesterday at 02:33 PM This is just a clickbait article by PFT, as usual. No concrete evidence is given that potential replacements have been forced out. The article only states: "At this point, there’s a generally-accepted belief in league circles that the folks who end up being long-term high-level executives at 345 Park Avenue are not regarded by the captain as viable candidates to take the helm." Until there is more, this is a nothing-burger. Move on. Quote
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