House Passes One Big Beautiful Bill

[Big Blitz]

 

Since when have libertarians argued that NOT raising taxes “costs” the government money? Private money yet to be earned does not “belong” to the government. This is a Democrat-collectivist argument and I’m shocked to see libertarians deploying it.

 

Under this ludicrous theory, one could raise taxes to 90% on everyone and declare the deficit solved.

[BillsFanNC]

I see some self-described libertarians siding with lefty bureaucrats at CBO who claim the Big Beautiful Bill will “explode the debt.” This is based entirely on CBO claiming that extending the current tax rates (not raising them) will “cost” the government $4 trillion in revenue.

Since when have libertarians argued that NOT raising taxes “costs” the government money? Private money yet to be earned does not “belong” to the government. This is a Democrat-collectivist argument and I’m shocked to see libertarians deploying it.

 

Under this ludicrous theory, one could raise taxes to 90% on everyone and declare the deficit solved.

 

BBB cuts taxes, cuts spending, reforms welfare and *ends mass migration*.

On the last point, anyone serious about limited government and improving America’s financial health would understand that ending mass migration is the prerequisite for every other problem we wish to solve.

Of course, true libertarians don’t believe in borders at all…

[Joe Ferguson forever]

A primer on how the government funds the deficit.  Should be required reading for every American.

[All_Pro_Bills]

13 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

A primer on how the government funds the deficit.  Should be required reading for every American.

A prerequisite to that is how the global dollar reserve and trade settlement system works. Those arrangements enable huge annual deficits and U.S. government spending without the impacting inflation all that money creation would have on any other nation.

 

As for how the government funds the deficits its pretty simple. They issue treasury paper which is generally purchased by foreign central banks with excess dollars acquired from trade surpluses with the U.S. That's what makes much of Trump's tariff fight unproductive. If we don't run a trade deficit where are all these foreigners going to get the dollars to purchase treasuries to fund the deficit? 

 

 

[Big Blitz]

Fire President Parliamentarian immediately 

 

 

 

[The Frankish Reich]

33 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Fire President Parliamentarian immediately 

 

 

 

Yes, and the Senate Majority is absolutely free to override her by eliminating the filibuster rule.

Which they don't want to do for obvious reasons.

This was totally predictable when the Rs tried to jam all sorts of tangential things into a budget resolution act. Big. Bloated. Ugly.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

The 1% need that tax break. Get it together MAGAs…

 

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2025/jun/26/billionaires-wealth-oxfam-report

[Roundybout]

On 6/23/2025 at 3:52 PM, Big Blitz said:

Fire President Parliamentarian immediately 

 

 

 

Learn to write a bill in the proper way. 
 

As Frankish said, they can also override the parliamentarian at any time. 

[The Frankish Reich]

John Thune is on the record for not trying to override the parliamentarian's decisions. This is the way the Senate decided to do things.

And, of course, that same parliamentarian also found certain Biden "budget" provisions outside the scope of the reconciliation process. 

[Big Blitz]

 

 

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[Big Blitz]

 

[ChiGoose]

Americans generally dislike the “Big Beautiful Bill”, including Republicans. 
 

If voters hate the bill, but the GOP pushes it forward for some reason, maybe MAGA voters will start to think* about who really is in charge of the movement?

 

Pew: Far more Americans oppose the legislation than favor it. Nearly half (49%) oppose it, while 29% favor it. Another 21% are not sure

 

*Just kidding. Anyone still in the MAGA movement is incapable of independent thought. They stopped any brain function to focus all resources on licking boots. 

[JDHillFan]

3 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

Americans generally dislike the “Big Beautiful Bill”, including Republicans. 
 

If voters hate the bill, but the GOP pushes it forward for some reason, maybe MAGA voters will start to think* about who really is in charge of the movement?

 

Pew: Far more Americans oppose the legislation than favor it. Nearly half (49%) oppose it, while 29% favor it. Another 21% are not sure

 

*Just kidding. Anyone still in the MAGA movement is incapable of independent thought. They stopped any brain function to focus all resources on licking boots. 

Do you remember when you were spinning in circles trying to defend Joe’s handling of classified documents over a long period of time? Was that bootlicking you were doing? Seems like it might have been. 

[ChiGoose]

6 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Do you remember when you were spinning in circles trying to defend Joe’s handling of classified documents over a long period of time? Was that bootlicking you were doing? Seems like it might have been. 

[ChiGoose]

One of the fun things about recognizing that most MAGA voters are just actually dumb is that when you point it out to them, they respond with non-sequitors because actually realizing that they are pawns of the elitist billionaire class requires them do the impossible task of thinking for themselves. 

[CoudyBills]

On 6/11/2025 at 8:18 AM, Joe Ferguson forever said:

A primer on how the government funds the deficit.  Should be required reading for every American.

Step 1.  Understand that a deficit is a result of a lack of funds and spending more thannyou have.  Read another way, the deficit isn't funded.  So, a blank page?

22 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

One of the fun things about recognizing that most MAGA voters are just actually dumb is that when you point it out to them, they respond with non-sequitors because actually realizing that they are pawns of the elitist billionaire class requires them do the impossible task of thinking for themselves. 

This would be closer to accurate if the elitist billionaire class wasn't the democrats.  You realize democrat and independent writers are publishing stories specifically stating this, right?  You are so ***** stupid you should probably just eat rat poison.  

Edited 17 hours ago by CoudyBills

[JDHillFan]

21 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

One of the fun things about recognizing that most MAGA voters are just actually dumb is that when you point it out to them, they respond with non-sequitors because actually realizing that they are pawns of the elitist billionaire class requires them do the impossible task of thinking for themselves. 

You made more sense with “human trafficking” and “everyone’s talking about sex because gay people exist”.
 

It’s everyone else that is dumb though. Whatever you have to tell yourself. 
 

Someone as sharp as you should know how to spell non sequitur. It happens - preferably not in the course of trying to prove yourself superior. Oh well. 

[K D]

 

 

[ChiGoose]

“The Democratic Party are Marxist Communists Socialists and also they are the party of the billionaires.”

-MAGA logic

 

Meanwhile, the party that received the overwhelming majority of donations from billionaires, is led by a billionaire, has a cabinet full of billionaires, and is trying to pass a bill that basically nobody likes that gives huge windfalls to billionaires while raising costs for average Americans is *not* the party of billionaires. 
 

Got it.