leh-nerd skin-erd Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 52 minutes ago, aristocrat said: no they didn't. they created a russian investigation that tore the country apart, then created riots that killed dozens and caused billions in damage all to win an election. There was that, of course. Pretending it didn’t happen, or that it wasn’t an assault on democratic principles is just silly. Better to acknowledge it was ugly, political, and designed to divide. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 14 Author Share Posted May 14 20 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: To influence the conservatives the Russians created bot farms that tried to influence the election by overwhelming people with all of the small examples of dishonesty until it was apparent you should not trust them. To influence liberals they gave clear and obvious lies to the leading candidate and let the Media go to work. Obvious interference but you seem unaware who was actively involved. They also tried hacking the election system. They hacked the Democrats computers and used the info against the Democrats. But you don't care. You guys just deserve to lose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 1 hour ago, aristocrat said: no they didn't. they created a russian investigation that tore the country apart, then created riots that killed dozens and caused billions in damage all to win an election. They also burned my toast and caused my car’s air conditioning to break. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 25 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: To influence the conservatives the Russians created bot farms that tried to influence the election by overwhelming people with all of the small examples of dishonesty until it was apparent you should not trust them. To influence liberals they gave clear and obvious lies to the leading candidate and let the Media go to work. Obvious interference but you seem unaware who was actively involved. So....the Russians are really bad....agreed. They re barbaric. So why are cons ready to let them overrun Ukraine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Do you have evidence that there has been widespread fraud that would make a difference in an election? Without those, your concerns are unfounded and bordering on paranoia or even pandering to the rubes. I'm concerned with the potential for individual acts of voter fraud and not some nebulous potential for "widespread" fraud. I've identified several known scenarios of potential fraud. The voting process needs to provide citizens the confidence that elections are free and fair and known opportunities for fraud are addressed so they don't happen. Otherwise, it will leave opportunity for people of all political views, regardless of the result, to suggest and charge the election results are suspect and they'll be within reason to raise that issue. The goal is to eliminate the possibility of fraud rather than responding to it after the fact. Why are you against making sure every vote cast is valid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 1 minute ago, All_Pro_Bills said: 16 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: I'm concerned with the potential for individual acts of voter fraud and not some nebulous potential for "widespread" fraud. how bout we use the descriptive "consequential fraud", consequential being defined as affecting the results of an election? As far as I know, that's recently occurred only once recently ; In NC. There are some R pols in jail for it, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Buffalo Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 5 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: So....the Russians are really bad....agreed. They re barbaric. So why are cons ready to let them overrun Ukraine? Russians have a willing ally in Dems since without Hillary no one believes the Steele Dossier for one minute and without Biden the war would have already come to an end with a treaty and the destruction of Ukraine would stop. Why are you so excited to watch the entire young male population of Ukraine be thrown through the shredder of war? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 17 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: Russians have a willing ally in Dems since without Hillary no one believes the Steele Dossier for one minute and without Biden the war would have already come to an end with a treaty and the destruction of Ukraine would stop. Why are you so excited to watch the entire young male population of Ukraine be thrown through the shredder of war? When considering Russia and hostile acts, it's interesting to note activity that has taken place during the Obama and Biden years. I wouldn't suggest they work together (though possible), but the Russian's sure seem to ramp up aggression while the Dems are in office. Hamas, too, come to think of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 6 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Yup. I believe in democracy, with all its warts. Do you? Yes. How's that civil war in Virginia coming along? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 (edited) The rigging and cheating is coming big time. Again. Here they are telling you as much with their projection. Massive and overt. 2020 was child's play. 🎯 Edited May 14 by BillsFanNC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 14 Author Share Posted May 14 Joe Biden will be ready for this next episode of treason. Lock 'em all up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 1 hour ago, reddogblitz said: Yes. How's that civil war in Virginia coming along? Uh huh. I don't desire a civil war but if it happens, we'll be on opposite sides. The most likely scenario involves trump losing or jailed. That would make you a rebel. Didn't go so well for them last time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Uh huh. I don't desire a civil war but if it happens, we'll be on opposite sides. The most likely scenario involves trump losing or jailed. That would make you a rebel. Didn't go so well for them last time. If there were to be (there won't be) a civil war which you crave I know, I won't participate. Let the young fools fight it out. I got better things to do. Come on man. You're retired. Spark up a doob and drink some of your home brew and chill. We don't have enough time left for this civil war nonsense. PEACE Edited May 14 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Orlando Buffalo Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 11 hours ago, Tiberius said: They also tried hacking the election system. They hacked the Democrats computers and used the info against the Democrats. But you don't care. You guys just deserve to lose You mean they hacked the computer that Hillary left unsecured with top secret info on it? I care but you see no fault in Hillary being openly incompetent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 3 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Uh huh. I don't desire a civil war but if it happens, we'll be on opposite sides. The most likely scenario involves trump losing or jailed. That would make you a rebel. Didn't go so well for them last time. we're already on opposite sides. we do what we can. will be attending a fundraiser for a D congressional candidate shortly. Let's hope elections remain our way of choosing leaders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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All_Pro_Bills Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 47 minutes ago, Tiberius said: The times they are changing. We've also never had political party leaders posing as journalists pushing doctrine and opinion rather than news. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 26 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: he times they are changing. they are, on your side. 20 years ago, who woulda thought establishment voters would be considered liberals by their opponents. words mean nothing. truth is now plastic, sadly. and it's all by design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 15 Author Share Posted May 15 1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said: The times they are changing. We've also never had political party leaders posing as journalists pushing doctrine and opinion rather than news. You must be a Russian trollbot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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