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30 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Wait until you see the drunk driving laws in the country! You could kill someone driving hammered and get like 6 months. 

 

 


Henry Ruggs asks ‘really?’

Posted
1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Looks like a PED violation is the same as almost killing a bunch of people with your car?

 

12 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

I had that observation and comment myself.

 

Take the wrong supplement: 6 games

Drive dangerously, damned near kill people, then leave the scene: 6 games

 

Make It Make Sense

 

Look I hate the Chiefs as much as anyone, but lets be real here.

 

No one was even injured in Rice's accident. It's illogical and unreasonable to say "almost killed people" or "damn near killed people". If that applies then you can say the same about every one of us who goes 1mph over the speed limit.

 

It isnt up to the NFL to be judge, jury, and executioner on things that occur outside of football. They get to do it a little more because their business is based on public image/interest, and these players make a lot of money in a high profile position, but none of our employers would be able to punish any of us over a car accident either (not counting CDLs).

 

They WOULD however punish/suspend/fire us if we were cheating within the business.

 

PEDs, gambling, etc directly affect the NFL and their bottom line. Off-field stuff typically doesnt.

 

It's that simple. Jurisdiction.

 

The REAL courts already sentenced him to 30 days in jail, 5 years probation, and $1M in settlements. There is your justice.

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Posted (edited)
19 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Look I hate the Chiefs as much as anyone, but lets be real here.

 

OK.  Here is the AI overview of the accident:

"Kansas City Chiefs WR Rashee Rice was sentenced in July 2025 to five years of deferred probation and 30 days in jail for a high-speed crash he caused on March 30, 2024, in Dallas, where he pleaded guilty to two felony charges. He was racing at nearly 120 mph in his Lamborghini, leading to a six-vehicle pileup that injured multiple people and resulted in a $115,000 restitution payment to the victims. Rice also faced and settled a $1 million civil lawsuit from the injured parties."

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39929910/affidavit-chiefs-rashee-rice-drove-119-mph-six-car-crash

"Rice's Lamborghini Urus reached 119 mph 4.5 seconds before the collision, according to the affidavit. A Corvette driven by SMU wide receiver Teddy Knox was traveling 116 mph 7.5 seconds before the chain-reaction collision before slowing to 91 1.5 seconds before the crash.  The crash on the North Central Expressway (U.S. Route 75) left at least seven people with injuries. The two cars "made multiple aggressive maneuvers to get through traffic," the affidavit said.

Rice and four other men were seen leaving the scene of the crash without seeing if any of the injured needed help.  Rice is facing one count of aggravated assault, one count of collision involving serious bodily injury and six counts of collision involving injury, according to police."

 

19 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

No one was even injured in Rice's accident. It's illogical and unreasonable to say "almost killed people" or "damn near killed people". If that applies then you can say the same about every one of us who goes 1mph over the speed limit.

 

According to several sources, 7 people were injured, significantly enough that the court required restitution payments and a $1M lawsuit was settled.

 

I find your analogy between driving 120 mph, racing another car on the highway, causing a 6 car pile-up with 7 injuries, then leaving the scene of the accident with "driving 1 mph over the speed limit" to be.....inapt.  And I'll just leave it at that.

 

19 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

It isnt up to the NFL to be judge, jury, and executioner on things that occur outside of football. They get to do it a little more because their business is based on public image/interest, and these players make a lot of money in a high profile position, but none of our employers would be able to punish any of us over a car accident either (not counting CDLs).

 

Exactly.  The players cede to the NFL the right to judge and discipline them for things that occur outside of football.  Article 46 of the CBA allows the Commissioner to impose punishment for "conduct detrimental to the integrity of, or public confidence in, the game of football".  Each player contract has a clause acknowledging this power.  So what our employers can do is besides the point; we didn't sign a contract or agree to work under a CBA that allows this.

In other words, the NFL has jurisdiction here.

You're entitled to your opinion, and I'm entitled to think that imposing the same punishment for a high-speed reckless public drag race that injured 7 people vs. taking a supplement without vetting all the ingredients is absurd.  The jurisdiction is there, and the analogy to "driving 1 mph over the speed limit" is absurd.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

OK.  Here is the AI overview of the accident:

"Kansas City Chiefs WR Rashee Rice was sentenced in July 2025 to five years of deferred probation and 30 days in jail for a high-speed crash he caused on March 30, 2024, in Dallas, where he pleaded guilty to two felony charges. He was racing at nearly 120 mph in his Lamborghini, leading to a six-vehicle pileup that injured multiple people and resulted in a $115,000 restitution payment to the victims. Rice also faced and settled a $1 million civil lawsuit from the injured parties."

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39929910/affidavit-chiefs-rashee-rice-drove-119-mph-six-car-crash

"Rice's Lamborghini Urus reached 119 mph 4.5 seconds before the collision, according to the affidavit. A Corvette driven by SMU wide receiver Teddy Knox was traveling 116 mph 7.5 seconds before the chain-reaction collision before slowing to 91 1.5 seconds before the crash.  The crash on the North Central Expressway (U.S. Route 75) left at least seven people with injuries. The two cars "made multiple aggressive maneuvers to get through traffic," the affidavit said.

Rice and four other men were seen leaving the scene of the crash without seeing if any of the injured needed help.  Rice is facing one count of aggravated assault, one count of collision involving serious bodily injury and six counts of collision involving injury, according to police."

 

 

According to several sources, 7 people were injured, significantly enough that the court required restitution payments and a $1M lawsuit was settled.

 

I find your analogy between driving 120 mph, racing another car on the highway, causing a 6 car pile-up with 7 injuries, then leaving the scene of the accident with "driving 1 mph over the speed limit" to be.....inapt.  And I'll just leave it at that.

 

 

Exactly.  The players cede to the NFL the right to judge and discipline them for things that occur outside of football.  Article 46 of the CBA allows the Commissioner to impose punishment for "conduct detrimental to the integrity of, or public confidence in, the game of football".  Each player contract has a clause acknowledging this power.  So what our employers can do is besides the point; we didn't sign a contract or agree to work under a CBA that allows this.

In other words, the NFL has jurisdiction here.

You're entitled to your opinion, and I'm entitled to think that imposing the same punishment for a high-speed reckless public drag race that injured 7 people vs. taking a supplement without vetting all the ingredients is absurd.  The jurisdiction is there, and the analogy to "driving 1 mph over the speed limit" is absurd.

 

 

Thanks, I checked 3 articles before posting and not one mention of an injury, so I do appreciate the clarification.

 

The rest of it stands.

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Goodell is insane.

 

6 games for a major car accident, 11 games for begging for "personal services" from masseuses.

 

WTF. Makes zero sense.

1 hour ago, TBBills Fan said:

NFL shouldn't have gone below 8 games 

Should be an entire season, at least more than Watson's 11 games.

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Posted
2 hours ago, 90sBills said:


Right. But when we come with excuses, sorry reasons, why we keep losing to KC it’s not delusional right?

 

What sorry reasons?  They’ve gotten the breaks we haven’t.  It’s football.  I’m not crying about it.

 

Posted (edited)

6 games is more than the 4 I thought it would be. But, honestly, are we really surprised it wasn't more? I don't buy that the NFL was REALLY pushing an 11-12 game ban. That's bull jive. Most of us would have been in prison for 6 years over the incident and he gets suspended for 6 games of an NFL season. Wow......punishment. 

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