Trump​ ❤️ Tariffs

[Homelander]

1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Wow.  this is very bad news.  40,00 families that will likely be struggling.  no one wis a trade war except maybe China...

 

Joe, @dgrochester55wants us to patiently watch Americans suffer while Putin's golden boy tanks the economy, kneecaps national security, and lets his cosplay cabinet prance around on TV.  

[Homelander]

2 minutes ago, dgrochester55 said:

 

You do not have permission to tag my name and put inaccurate words in my mouth. Reported.

 

Oh calm down, Susan. No one needs your permission to reference a public comment. If you don't like being quoted, maybe say things you can actually stand by.

[JDHillFan]

12 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Wow.  this is very bad news.  40,00 families that will likely be struggling.  no one wis a trade war except maybe China...

I will be very happy to give you and the pinhead formerly known as Billstime credit for breaking the news that Subaru and Nissan have announced plans to “close all U.S. plants because of Trump’s tariff” with one simple caveat - provide a link from a source other than @tazerface16. 
 

good lord you two are clueless 

[Simon]

If you children drag me into this sand kitty litter box, I will absolutely start indiscriminately punting people so far down the road you will need a road map to get home.

[US Egg]

.....anyone wanna go next?

[US Egg]

15 hours ago, JFKjr said:

 

 

 

She's put on a few pounds.....to the good.

[Westside]

18 hours ago, Niagara Bill said:

All you cheap Americans...listen up, open your wallets,🤣

While trump suggests the US subsidizes Canada to the level if $200b per yr, I tend to say the opposite. 

Based on population, Canadian citizens buy the $9,600.00 per yr of products, produce and services per person.

You cheap bastards buy $2,600.00 per yr of products and services per person.🤮

Trump himself spent nothing, which is good for Canadian business because he never pays his bills anyway.☹️

 

So cough up, or we will become the mouse that roared, then you will know what subsidies are really like.

 

Canada has nothing Americans want. F canada, tired of being their “big” brother anyway. Let them fishheads fend for themselves!

[Niagara Bill]

2 hours ago, Westside said:

Canada has nothing Americans want. F canada, tired of being their “big” brother anyway. Let them fishheads fend for themselves!

Gee, you are so tough..

Canada will fend for ourselves, just tell your lying leader to stfu.

 

well I can't say many bad things about  Americans. Many Americans have been life long friends of mine. Many I found to be wonderful, kind, fun, loyal, intelligent, talented and honest. Some even sexy and loving. Not fish heads or hillbillies, or anyother name that you would use.

Then there is what the world knows as, THE UGLY AMERICAN. 

Ignorant, rude, local, simple, arrogant, bullies. You know, the ones who has their head stuck up their ass or their bosses so far they cannot smell the roses. You know the kind, life based on hate. Of course you know, you see it in a mirror every day.

Have a nice day. Sorry I had to say this...but some times you have to.

[Big Blitz]

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

On 4/26/2025 at 4:10 PM, Niagara Bill said:

Gee, you are so tough..

Canada will fend for ourselves, just tell your lying leader to stfu.

 

well I can't say many bad things about  Americans. Many Americans have been life long friends of mine. Many I found to be wonderful, kind, fun, loyal, intelligent, talented and honest. Some even sexy and loving. Not fish heads or hillbillies, or anyother name that you would use.

Then there is what the world knows as, THE UGLY AMERICAN. 

Ignorant, rude, local, simple, arrogant, bullies. You know, the ones who has their head stuck up their ass or their bosses so far they cannot smell the roses. You know the kind, life based on hate. Of course you know, you see it in a mirror every day.

Have a nice day. Sorry I had to say this...but some times you have to.

As a native of Western New York I've visited Canada many times and always found the people up north to be hospitable. Whether it was on numerous trips to the Canadian side of the Falls, up to Toronto, or a couple trips to Montreal. But as an outsider viewing the coming national elections I see Canadians making the same mistake twice in the likely result of electing Mark Carney as PM. A lot of it the result of justified anti-Trump backlash which has presented a skilled and polished politician in Mark Carney an exploitable opportunity for the Liberal party to maintain power. This guys government is going to be a disaster for Canadians. 

 

Carney is a former central bank governor of the Bank of Canada and the Bank of England.  At the Bank of Canada he led the effort to sell all of Canada's gold reserves. His primary allegiance will not be to Canada, or the interests of its citizens. He's a hard core globalist and Canadians that would like to transfer more of their nation's independence and sovereignty to international and multinational organizations will be very pleased with his administration. Others, wanting their government to look out for the interests of Canada and Canadians will be very dissatisfied. By the end of his term Canada will more resemble an over-regulated EU state.

[Niagara Bill]

2 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

As a native of Western New York I've visited Canada many times and always found the people up north to be hospitable. Whether it was on numerous trips to the Canadian side of the Falls, up to Toronto, or a couple trips to Montreal. But as an outsider viewing the coming national elections I see Canadians making the same mistake twice in the likely result of electing Mark Carney as PM. A lot of it the result of justified anti-Trump backlash which has presented a skilled and polished politician in Mark Carney an exploitable opportunity for the Liberal party to maintain power. This guys government is going to be a disaster for Canadians. 

 

Carney is a former central bank governor of the Bank of Canada and the Bank of England.  At the Bank of Canada he led the effort to sell all of Canada's gold reserves. His primary allegiance will not be to Canada, or the interests of its citizens. He's a hard core globalist and Canadians that would like to transfer more of their nation's independence and sovereignty to international and multinational organizations will be very pleased with his administration. Others, wanting their government to look out for the interests of Canada and Canadians will be very dissatisfied. By the end of his term Canada will more resemble an over-regulated EU state.

You are correct on what may happen. More European than American and I am sorry to say, a portion of the population has been made fearful of the right as a result of trump.

People see Carney as more likely to drag them towards Europe, UK and even China. Every time trump says 51, votes change to the left.

Citizens were fed up with taxes, regulations, Trudeau, immigration until 51 happened.

I see that direction he is purposely interfering in our election, aligning with trumps real plan to take over Canada,  militarily in 2026.

Are there portions of Canada who may want to join, sure, like there are areas of US who may want to leave.

On the other hand I prefer wine and Scotch, my good friend next door, is a beer drinker and his wife doesn't drink. He is a golfer, decent at it, I on the other hand do not like golf, prefer walking, soccer, baseball. He is Blue Jays, I am Yankees. We have been friends and neighbours 30 years. His car has never been in his garage, mine is always in my garage.

We accept each other. I see know reason to challenge his life. He is a great guy, fair, generous, loyal. We share lawnmowers, snowblowers, even newspapers. 

I see know reason why the US and Canada, or Europe or UK can't be the same. I see know reason why Trump and his lap dog Vance feel necessary to publically berate others for their choices as if what is occurring now is god given. Why Trump thinks we should listen only to him, why he thinks he is the world's judge and chief executioner.

If the US want to change,  our our guest, if the US wants to change their style of government, so be it, if the US thinks that by going back to the 1970s type of society, just do it. Build your factories, tell your companies to come home, tell your unions they are invited in, if you want out of NATO, go, if you want to shutdown NORAD, do it. 

1970 is behind us. Companies went to China, Korea, Vietnam, Mexico because the high cost of manufacturing, unions controlled the economy. But..not our concern.

 

Canada may continue leaning left, not sure how that negatively affects the US. But it is trumps plan. 

You remember the Ottawa truckers protest, financed by the American right, the Jan 6th groups. Which is why bank accounts were ceased. This was the beginning of the ultra right from the US. Canadian citizens know this, so they often run from the far right. 

Which is the exact reason why I believe his military takeover of Canada is likely the reason. Russia gets Ukraine and Georgia, and maybe 1 or 2 others, China gets Taiwan, and Phillipines and 1 or 2 other, US gets Canada and Greenland. 

 

 

[Roundybout]

 

 

 

PRAISE BE TO DONALD FOR SAVING THE ECONOMY 

[JDHillFan]

Just now, Roundybout said:

 

 

 

PRAISE BE TO DONALD FOR SAVING THE ECONOMY 

I know there was a lot of discussion about the definition of recession 2020-2024. Was that ever settled?

[sherpa]

I really regret the way the administration has not informed our country on how obvious this situation was, and that something absolutely needed to be done.

We were getting abused by China, India and the EU.

A response to this is absolutely justified.

 

China is the worst, but our other trade partners are nearly as guilty, and the situation needs to change.

 

The Treasury Secretary was on CNBC for an extended interview this morning and his most informative comment was that when they started looking at this stuff, he couldn't believe how bad it has gotten.

 

This gets worked out, but it wasn't moving in that direction.

[Roundybout]

14 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

I know there was a lot of discussion about the definition of recession 2020-2024. Was that ever settled?

Were shipping rates ever down 45% because of a deliberate sabotage by the President during the Biden administration?

6 minutes ago, sherpa said:

I really regret the way the administration has not informed our country on how obvious this situation was, and that something absolutely needed to be done.

We were getting abused by China, India and the EU.

A response to this is absolutely justified.

 

China is the worst, but our other trade partners are nearly as guilty, and the situation needs to change.

 

The Treasury Secretary was on CNBC for an extended interview this morning and his most informative comment was that when they started looking at this stuff, he couldn't believe how bad it has gotten.

 

This gets worked out, but it wasn't moving in that direction.

No we weren’t. This was a lie. 

[JDHillFan]

1 minute ago, Roundybout said:

Were shipping rates ever down 45% because of a deliberate sabotage by the President during the Biden administration?

I was just curious about the definition of recession. I guess it’s got something to do with shipping rates. Thanks for straightening that out. 
 

A young person like yourself should be excited about buying the dip. I know that you were enthusiastic about that under the previous guy. 

[All_Pro_Bills]

1 hour ago, Niagara Bill said:

You are correct on what may happen. More European than American and I am sorry to say, a portion of the population has been made fearful of the right as a result of trump.

People see Carney as more likely to drag them towards Europe, UK and even China. Every time trump says 51, votes change to the left.

Citizens were fed up with taxes, regulations, Trudeau, immigration until 51 happened.

I see that direction he is purposely interfering in our election, aligning with trumps real plan to take over Canada,  militarily in 2026.

Are there portions of Canada who may want to join, sure, like there are areas of US who may want to leave.

On the other hand I prefer wine and Scotch, my good friend next door, is a beer drinker and his wife doesn't drink. He is a golfer, decent at it, I on the other hand do not like golf, prefer walking, soccer, baseball. He is Blue Jays, I am Yankees. We have been friends and neighbours 30 years. His car has never been in his garage, mine is always in my garage.

We accept each other. I see know reason to challenge his life. He is a great guy, fair, generous, loyal. We share lawnmowers, snowblowers, even newspapers. 

I see know reason why the US and Canada, or Europe or UK can't be the same. I see know reason why Trump and his lap dog Vance feel necessary to publically berate others for their choices as if what is occurring now is god given. Why Trump thinks we should listen only to him, why he thinks he is the world's judge and chief executioner.

If the US want to change,  our our guest, if the US wants to change their style of government, so be it, if the US thinks that by going back to the 1970s type of society, just do it. Build your factories, tell your companies to come home, tell your unions they are invited in, if you want out of NATO, go, if you want to shutdown NORAD, do it. 

1970 is behind us. Companies went to China, Korea, Vietnam, Mexico because the high cost of manufacturing, unions controlled the economy. But..not our concern.

 

Canada may continue leaning left, not sure how that negatively affects the US. But it is trumps plan. 

You remember the Ottawa truckers protest, financed by the American right, the Jan 6th groups. Which is why bank accounts were ceased. This was the beginning of the ultra right from the US. Canadian citizens know this, so they often run from the far right. 

Which is the exact reason why I believe his military takeover of Canada is likely the reason. Russia gets Ukraine and Georgia, and maybe 1 or 2 others, China gets Taiwan, and Phillipines and 1 or 2 other, US gets Canada and Greenland. 

 

 

Thanks for sharing your perspective. Except for the far-left populated with conspiracy theories of some impending dictatorship (which I do not see any chance of happening) here in The States, I don't hear any serious conversation on the idea of the US taking military action against Canada or Greenland. In my view the culprit is a lot of inappropriate rhetoric out of the administration. I also don't believe there's any plan or understanding between the US, Russia, and China to look the other way while they each take aggressive actions to take over territory. I do see China's motivation to take over Taiwan and Russia's desire for some provinces of Ukraine but in each case its not the need for more land or territory. The idea Russia has designs on taking over the European continent is comical. They simply do not have the economic or military resources to pull that off. Russia's aim in Ukraine is a buffer zone between them and NATO. Taking over Taiwan has been a historical goal of the communists in China since the revolution and I see Trump's objective as a 21st century version of the Monroe Doctrine but the execution of that plan has been a disaster using confrontation where cooperation would be more effective. One fault in his strategy is he seems to view everything as transaction rather than taking a systemic view of things. I see the main objective being to eliminate China's influence and footprint in the Western Hemisphere. Canada is seen as a country where the CCP wields a very high level of influence over the government and the country. How true this is or to what extent is debatable.

 

I do see some issues with trade, tariffs, regulations designed to eliminate competition, and support protectionism. My view of free trade is a mutually agreed to exchange between 2 parties without any interference from the government(s). Any real free trade agreement should be about 2 or 3 pages long. But such a view is unrealistic given the circumstances where governments are involved. I think both sides need to concede and compromise but the environment for that may not exist at the moment.

 

As for America itself, I see the political divide as a battle between two Americas. But not the left vs. right struggle everybody tends to focus on here and in the media. Its between America the country and America the empire. They are not constituted in of the same physical territories or interests and the empire is not just geographically America. It is worldwide with many interests in many places. Most so-called MAGA people are more concerned with the interests of America the country and don't want to play world cop and get involved in constant wars while liberals are more concerned with the interests of the Empire. I don't believe the majority of either group realizes the distinction. The left sees MAGA as illiterate hillbillies and rubes easily duped into believing outrageous things influenced by mis and dis information. While the right sees Liberals as snooty over-educated idealists that look down on anyone that doesn't hold the same enlightened world view as they do.

 

Edited Monday at 06:30 PM by All_Pro_Bills

[Roundybout]

11 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

I was just curious about the definition of recession. I guess it’s got something to do with shipping rates. Thanks for straightening that out. 
 

A young person like yourself should be excited about buying the dip. I know that you were enthusiastic about that under the previous guy. 

Oh you still think this is about the stock market? That’s adorable

[JDHillFan]

5 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Oh you still think this is about the stock market? That’s adorable

You have previously declared we are in a global economic meltdown. Is that what it’s about?
 

Also - buy the dip. You were excited about it a while back. 

[Roundybout]

2 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

You have previously declared we are in a global economic meltdown. Is that what it’s about?
 

Also - buy the dip. You were excited about it a while back. 

What happens when the supply of goods is suddenly choked? What happens to prices?