wnyguy Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Just now, The Frankish Reich said: Well that's a whole different story, isn't it ... Just jokin with ya, I see a shot and sometimes I take it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Just now, wnyguy said: Just jokin with ya, I see a shot and sometimes I take it. Much improved over that "[fill in the blank] called, the want their [fill in the blank] back" attempt. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Doc said: "We" don't and didn't. Again regardless of who participated in it, it shouldn't be allowed to happen again. again? it's all over on Facebook, Reddit and others Edited March 19 by Tommy Callahan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 I'm sure that you're all shocked that Finding Qanon mischaracterized the Trump dictator quote exactly as his masters told it to. Trump didnt say: "I will be a dictator on day one" He said he wouldn't be a dictator, other than ON day one, and only day one, not FROM day one as Finding suggested. Nevermind that he was clearly being facetious. Also went even further to explain what he was talking about. He was specifically talking about reversing Biden's border and drilling policies on day one. You know doing exactly what Biden did on day one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 44 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: I'm sure that you're all shocked that Finding Qanon mischaracterized the Trump dictator quote exactly as his masters told it to. Trump didnt say: "I will be a dictator on day one" He said he wouldn't be a dictator, other than ON day one, and only day one, not FROM day one as Finding suggested. Nevermind that he was clearly being facetious. Also went even further to explain what he was talking about. He was specifically talking about reversing Biden's border and drilling policies on day one. You know doing exactly what Biden did on day one. Oh! I see. So a smart Trump won't drop any Day One Executive Orders since those would be presumptively unconstitutional. Meanwhile: It is often forgotten that Trump and Putin enjoy some of the same leisure-time activities. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 ⬆️ Is this where FQ acknowledges that Biden is therefore a dictator too for actually having done what Trump is promising to do during his one day reign as dictator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 minute ago, BillsFanNC said: ⬆️ Is this where FQ acknowledges that Biden is therefore a dictator too for actually having done what Trump is promising to do during his one day reign as dictator? No, this is where a sensible, non-apologist for anyone points out that Biden's Day One executive orders were issued in accord with legal opinions that supported them as valid exercises of executive authority. And the Supreme Court ultimately agreed on the immigration ones: https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-supreme-court-allows-bidens-shift-immigration-enforcement-2023-06-23/ This is also where I remind some aging embittered lab tech that The Conservative Media Often Fails to Mention That Donald Trump Looks Great in His Workout Clothes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 ^^^^^^^^^^ another one with pictures of the orange dude in its device kinda creepy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 minute ago, Tommy Callahan said: ^^^^^^^^^^ another one with pictures of the orange dude in its device kinda creepy I will keep that one handy just in case you're trying to watch pr0n in a different tab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said: I will keep that one handy just in case you're trying to watch pr0n in a different tab. it was already on your device. Me think the second part is that Iron law of projection on your part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 2 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: it was already on your device. Me think the second part is that Iron law of projection on your part. At least it's iron, not soft like pre-Viagra Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 That dude and his genitals are taking up a lot of space in your replies. Kinda strange. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 19 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: That dude and his genitals are taking up a lot of space in your replies. Kinda strange. Reason #1,284 why it's wise to put useful idiots on your ignore list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, Tommy Callahan said: again? it's all over on Facebook, Reddit and others I'm talking about the Summer of 2020 not being allowed to happen again. 1 hour ago, BillsFanNC said: I'm sure that you're all shocked that Finding Qanon mischaracterized the Trump dictator quote exactly as his masters told it to. Trump didnt say: "I will be a dictator on day one" He said he wouldn't be a dictator, other than ON day one, and only day one, not FROM day one as Finding suggested. Nevermind that he was clearly being facetious. Also went even further to explain what he was talking about. He was specifically talking about reversing Biden's border and drilling policies on day one. You know doing exactly what Biden did on day one. They are either lying or aren't smart enough to figure out what is the truth. Neither is a good look. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 The hoops these people will jump through to try to do immediate revisionist history on Trump's idiotic quips never ceases to amaze me. Here's exactly what he said (from the AP, and I've watched the clip and it is completely accurate): Fox News host Sean Hannity gave his longtime friend a chance to assure the American people that he wouldn’t abuse power or seek retribution if he wins a second term. But instead of offering a perfunctory answer brushing off the warnings, Trump stoked the fire. “Except for day one,” the GOP front-runner said Tuesday night before a live audience in Davenport, Iowa. “I want to close the border, and I want to drill, drill, drill.” And in case anyone missed it, he reenacted the exchange. “We love this guy,” Trump said of Hannity. “He says, ‘You’re not going to be a dictator, are you?’ I said: ‘No, no, no, other than day one. We’re closing the border, and we’re drilling, drilling, drilling. After that, I’m not a dictator.’” 1 hour ago, BillsFanNC said: Trump didnt say: "I will be a dictator on day one" He said he wouldn't be a dictator, other than ON day one, and only day one, not FROM day one as Finding suggested. Nevermind that he was clearly being facetious. Also went even further to explain what he was talking about. He was specifically talking about reversing Biden's border and drilling policies on day one. Here's some random fool trying to explain it away. Lab techs generally don't take Philosophy 201, Logic, so I'll help: "I will not be a dictator unless and only unless it is Day One of my presidency" is logically equivalent to "I will be a dictator on Day One of my presidency." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 It’s all so frightening! I hope he doesn’t also have a cellphone and a pen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 4 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: It’s all so frightening! I hope he doesn’t also have a cellphone and a pen. Still different. Did Obama say "I will be a dictator." Did he say "I don't care about separation of powers, I will do what I want." I was no fan of Obama's "executive actions," particularly as they related to immigration. They went up to (and in my opinion, beyond) what was generally accepted as the outer limit of presidential authority. But they were supported by legal arguments for that authority, not a claim that he didn't give a crap about what his authority was, and that he was going to do it anyway. You guys love Trump as a breaker of norms, but then strenuously argue that he isn't breaking any norms. Even when he flat-out tells you that that's exactly what he intends to do. Make up your mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 2 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: Yes, it was. Since when do we equate the amount of destruction with the target of the destruction? Oh, because you've never seen that interview. Never mind. Here you go. That's correct Frank, I hadn't seen this clip. I find talk that Trump is intent on becoming Stalin, Mussolini, Hitler and Genghis Kahn all rolled into one boring and trite. I think he means that the southern border is a disaster, and as President he'll act swiftly to solve the problem. I think he feels an energy independent America is best for our collective future, hence the '...drill, drill, drill' comment. Mostly though, I think it was hyperbole delivered in what he sees as a humorous way. The tell for me is that he said he only wanted to be dictator for one day, which seems really, really undictatorly. I think his instinct on humor was good, given the laughter that ensues. As for his use of Executive Authority, seems everyone has an opinion on what's reasonable and what's not, typically decided by whether or not it's their guy or the other guy using it. I do want to declare I am against dictatorship in this country, even if just for a day. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) 4 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: That's correct Frank, I hadn't seen this clip. I find talk that Trump is intent on becoming Stalin, Mussolini, Hitler and Genghis Kahn all rolled into one boring and trite. I think he means that the southern border is a disaster, and as President he'll act swiftly to solve the problem. I think he feels an energy independent America is best for our collective future, hence the '...drill, drill, drill' comment. Mostly though, I think it was hyperbole delivered in what he sees as a humorous way. The tell for me is that he said he only wanted to be dictator for one day, which seems really, really undictatorly. I think his instinct on humor was good, given the laughter that ensues. As for his use of Executive Authority, seems everyone has an opinion on what's reasonable and what's not, typically decided by whether or not it's their guy or the other guy using it. I do want to declare I am against dictatorship in this country, even if just for a day. Yes, I would agree that it is said at least half tongue-in-cheek. And there is something of a stand-up (sit down here) comedian to his act. People love it, and even I thought it could be fun at the start but that it's worn awfully thin by now. And to be honest, I'm not that worked up about this one. But as I said: this is fodder for any litigants that want to use to enjoin whatever he might issue on "Day One" (and probably Day Two, Three, and beyond). There's really no escaping that. So he's shooting his prospective administration in the foot before it even begins. You mean there's not a way to fire up your base without promising that you'd violate the constitution? These are the things that make me think he's just not very smart. And/or that all he cares about is winning the election, not actually governing. Edited March 19 by The Frankish Reich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 8 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Still different. Did Obama say "I will be a dictator." Did he say "I don't care about separation of powers, I will do what I want." I was no fan of Obama's "executive actions," particularly as they related to immigration. They went up to (and in my opinion, beyond) what was generally accepted as the outer limit of presidential authority. But they were supported by legal arguments for that authority, not a claim that he didn't give a crap about what his authority was, and that he was going to do it anyway. You guys love Trump as a breaker of norms, but then strenuously argue that he isn't breaking any norms. Even when he flat-out tells you that that's exactly what he intends to do. Make up your mind. I’m not one of the “you guys” but am fine with the generalization. It’s what you guys do. See what I did there? I’m not as terrified of hyberbole and rhetoric as the lefties of the board seem to be. I’m more terrified when speech, even of the idiot variety, is suppressed. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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