sherpa Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 50 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Except that’s not what happened I know that’s what I just said No. What you said was they were "media quotes." They were DOD prepared statements provided to the media. The "media" has no capability to determine the number of targets how at how many sites, nor what weapons were used. It looks like these were prepared quotes, and it looks like this has little to do with military reality and a lot to do with political strategy, and I'm not a fan. If you want to take out a threat, in this scenario, you don't go global with three announcements over five days. It seems amateur and not sincere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 21 minutes ago, yall said: I'm curious what your friend didn't like? I've not talked to my Tampa buddies about this incident yet, but what was your friend expecting the administration to do differently regarding those guys getting lost at sea? It's not that anybody didn't like anything. These sympathetic, political shows are viewed as just what they are. The reason I commented on it is because two separate people, in this forum, announced the Administrations highly publicized, with photos, response to the three killed in a drone attack, not yet explained One seemed to be so moved that he claimed he would vote for the guy, not that there was any doubt. What I brought up is that no such response came to the Maryland SEAL's family, but nobody knows that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 47 minutes ago, sherpa said: No. What you said was they were "media quotes." They were DOD prepared statements provided to the media. The "media" has no capability to determine the number of targets how at how many sites, nor what weapons were used. It looks like these were prepared quotes, and it looks like this has little to do with military reality and a lot to do with political strategy, and I'm not a fan. If you want to take out a threat, in this scenario, you don't go global with three announcements over five days. It seems amateur and not sincere. DOD quotes prepared for the media come on Sherpa keep up 48 minutes ago, sherpa said: No. What you said was they were "media quotes." They were DOD prepared statements provided to the media. The "media" has no capability to determine the number of targets how at how many sites, nor what weapons were used. It looks like these were prepared quotes, and it looks like this has little to do with military reality and a lot to do with political strategy, and I'm not a fan. If you want to take out a threat, in this scenario, you don't go global with three announcements over five days. It seems amateur and not sincere. Except they’re not trying to take out a threat they’re sending a warning to the threat There is an overall picture here that you’re not taking into account Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, US Egg said: Last night 11:30, neither FOX nor CNN were reporting on the strike, which surprised me. Switched to MSNBC, they were covering it. They had on a Military analyst who gave fair, non biased, aspects. Drove the host nuts he wasn’t insisting Trump and Putin were the problem regarding the strike. She was absolutely unable to maintain her TDS, she kept interrupting him to assert this pertains to Putin and Trump more than anything. She was rude to him, felt sort of bad for the guy. Another example of how the Left will eat their own if they don’t conform to the script. That was your first mistake… 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: Why exactly would Trump have anything to do with this? That was the point. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Doc said: That was your first mistake… That was the point. No Donald Trump doesn’t have anything to do with this I don’t watch CNN msnbc so I don’t know exactly what was said. Edited February 3 by John from Riverside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 21 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: DOD quotes prepared for the media come on Sherpa keep up Except they’re not trying to take out a threat they’re sending a warning to the threat There is an overall picture here that you’re not taking into account I am extremely capable of "keeping up." They have been unsuccessful of sending a warning to the threat, and if you are not aware of that, you are the one not keeping up. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 14 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: DOD quotes prepared for the media come on Sherpa keep up Except they’re not trying to take out a threat they’re sending a warning to the threat There is an overall picture here that you’re not taking into account Even though Sherpa provides sober, well-reasoned military analysis backed by experience, going forward I am looking to you for my military analysis needs. You are more concise and I never have to think after reading your “thoughts”. You’ve got a fan! dear lord… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 43 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Except they’re not trying to take out a threat they’re sending a warning to the threat By the way, my view of "keeping up" is that the "warning" we have sent is that we will telegraph our response for political reasons, using the military to do so, but we will allow you five days to remove your people and equipment, and we will not strike your sovereign assets or territory. Warning, obviously, received, I'm guessing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, Doc said: That was your first mistake… Yes, I feel shame. 😔 The msm “all world problems are on Trump” narrative started before he was elected, will easily last another decade. They’re disappointed he didn’t “push the button”. 1 hour ago, Doc said: That was the point 🎯 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 2 hours ago, sherpa said: By the way, my view of "keeping up" is that the "warning" we have sent is that we will telegraph our response for political reasons, using the military to do so, but we will allow you five days to remove your people and equipment, and we will not strike your sovereign assets or territory. Warning, obviously, received, I'm guessing. This could’ve gone one of two ways Intelligence was saying that as soon as they drone strike, they move their assets, and they were waiting for them to settle in before the strike which, by the way is common protocol for rebels in that area Or Biden is trying to limit casualties because he’s trying to send a measured response and not have things skyrocket out of control. Therefore he did allow them to move and then hit them in a way where it would be less human casualties. 2 hours ago, JDHillFan said: Even though Sherpa provides sober, well-reasoned military analysis backed by experience, going forward I am looking to you for my military analysis needs. You are more concise and I never have to think after reading your “thoughts”. You’ve got a fan! dear lord… JD that is because you’re an idiot and have no idea who I am or what I’ve done Ignorance is bliss please continue to be ignorant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 17 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: This could’ve gone one of two ways Intelligence was saying that as soon as they drone strike, they move their assets, and they were waiting for them to settle in before the strike which, by the way is common protocol for rebels in that area Or Biden is trying to limit casualties because he’s trying to send a measured response and not have things skyrocket out of control. Therefore he did allow them to move and then hit them in a way where it would be less human casualties. There isn't anything new here. Of course they move, and of course they are observed. It is not possible, in this area, unless their are incredibly wicked weather issues, which there weren't, to hide any large scale movement. Point being, if the Biden Administration would have desired to effectively strike immediately, they could have. They didn't, and they went into this announcement nonsense. What they did is directly avoid a serious confrontation with the Iranian regime, permitting them to get their guys out before the fireworks. And the reason is grossly obvious. I doubt Biden is doing anything other than taking advice and pretending to make decisions. His history is gross evidence of being always wrong. This scenario is completely due to having election calculus invade effective military action. We bought him We got him. Please, don't insult anyone here by claiming some superior knowledge of this based on what you have done. Plenty of people here have done things, and know others who are quite aware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 minute ago, sherpa said: There isn't anything new here. Of course they move, and of course they are observed. It is not possible, in this area, unless their are incredibly wicked weather issues, which there weren't, to hide any large scale movement. Point being, if the Biden Administration would have desired to effectively strike immediately, they could have. They didn't, and they went into this announcement nonsense. What they did is directly avoid a serious confrontation with the Iranian regime, permitting them to get their guys out before the fireworks. And the reason is grossly obvious. I doubt Biden is doing anything other than taking advice and pretending to make decisions. His history is gross evidence of being always wrong. This scenario is completely due to having election calculus invade effective military action. We bought him We got him. Please, don't insult anyone here by claiming some superior knowledge of this based on what you have done. Plenty of people here have done things, and know others who are quite aware. Not insulting anybody here, Sherpa, pretty sure someone was insulting me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 minute ago, sherpa said: There isn't anything new here. Of course they move, and of course they are observed. It is not possible, in this area, unless their are incredibly wicked weather issues, which there weren't, to hide any large scale movement. Point being, if the Biden Administration would have desired to effectively strike immediately, they could have. They didn't, and they went into this announcement nonsense. What they did is directly avoid a serious confrontation with the Iranian regime, permitting them to get their guys out before the fireworks. And the reason is grossly obvious. I doubt Biden is doing anything other than taking advice and pretending to make decisions. His history is gross evidence of being always wrong. This scenario is completely due to having election calculus invade effective military action. We bought him We got him. Please, don't insult anyone here by claiming some superior knowledge of this based on what you have done. Plenty of people here have done things, and know others who are quite aware. #notmypresident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Just now, Doc said: #notmypresident Unless you grew up in Russia this morning, he is in fact your president He might be the president that you want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Unless you grew up in Russia this morning, he is in fact your president He might be the president that you want It was a common phrase when Trump was President... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 minute ago, Doc said: It was a common phrase when Trump was President... It wasn’t correct then either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 19 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Not insulting anybody here.... Really? Who posted this: "Ignorance is bliss please continue to be ignorant" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 18 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: It wasn’t correct then either Well that's how the majority of Dems felt. I'm sure you did as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 42 minutes ago, sherpa said: Really? Who posted this: "Ignorance is bliss please continue to be ignorant" Do you bother to read all of the posts that was a response to being insulted 39 minutes ago, Doc said: Well that's how the majority of Dems felt. I'm sure you did as well. No, actually I did not Whenever Donald Trump was elected, he was my president. He wasn’t the president that I wanted but he was my president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 On 1/30/2024 at 11:13 AM, US Egg said: See folks Joe’s got this, err…never mind. Hmmm... was there something that happened in the Middle East between September and January that might have changed their calculus? Maybe it was in October? Maybe something in... oh idk, Israel? Whatever could it be... 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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