Liberal White Women

[ChiGoose]

8 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Can you point out some of the “so many” complaining about sex? Sounds made up. 

Here ya go: Moms for Liberty Loses Its ***** Over School Yearbook’s LGBTQ Page

 

Moms For Liberty apparently thinks even acknowledging LGBT students is inappropriate for a High School. 
 

“This gender ideology crap has parents in an uproar because it’s disgusting and wrong for an adult to sexualize a minor,” parent Sharman Craft posted on Facebook. “The district superintendent is ordering the school to give full refunds or have the books reprinted without the glossary of perverse sexual attractions and pronouns. We are just getting started.”

 

To be clear, the pages in question was just LGBT students hanging out at school. But apparently that is sexual solely because these students aren’t straight. 

[JDHillFan]

7 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

Here ya go: Moms for Liberty Loses Its ***** Over School Yearbook’s LGBTQ Page

 

Moms For Liberty apparently thinks even acknowledging LGBT students is inappropriate for a High School. 
 

“This gender ideology crap has parents in an uproar because it’s disgusting and wrong for an adult to sexualize a minor,” parent Sharman Craft posted on Facebook. “The district superintendent is ordering the school to give full refunds or have the books reprinted without the glossary of perverse sexual attractions and pronouns. We are just getting started.”

 

To be clear, the pages in question was just LGBT students hanging out at school. But apparently that is sexual solely because these students aren’t straight. 

A parent posted on Facebook = so many complaining about sex when guys hold hands. A reasonable and measured equivalence. 🤦‍♂️

[ChiGoose]

9 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

A parent posted on Facebook = so many complaining about sex when guys hold hands. A reasonable and measured equivalence. 🤦‍♂️

So you’re just ignoring the whole article about how Moms For Liberty (an organization with around 100,000 members) was the reason behind the outrage?

[JDHillFan]

6 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

So you’re just ignoring the whole article about how Moms For Liberty (an organization with around 100,000 members) was the reason behind the outrage?

I’m focused on your claim that so many people immediately think about sex when they see two guys holding hands.  It seems like something that’s in your head that you want to believe. Your reason for believing it is apparently that moms for liberty were trying to put the kibosh on a couple yearbook pages. 

[B-Man]

 

 

Quick reminder for those with faux outrage about people giving their opinions.

 

 

It's legal.

 

It's our right.

 

 

The First Amendment Right - The Right to Protest

 

 

The Purpose and Power of Protest: The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) provides an article about the purpose and power of protest as a part of their table talk series dedicated to family conversations about current events. The article discusses what protests are, non-violent resistance, protests and the First Amendment, history of protests, questions to start the conversation and dig deeper, how to take action, and additional resources. For educators who are looking for a resource to guide them in how to approach talking with students about protests, especially in light of the most recent protests in the wake of George Floyd’s murder, this guide will be very helpful!

 

Protesting Is As Important As Voting: The Brookings Institution has published an article explaining why protesting is as important as voting. Historically, there has been the notion that voting is the only way for people to use their individual voices to create policy change, but as national protests have grown, our society is being shown that there are other ways to influence policy. Therefore, this article analyzes the impacts of protesting and then goes on to show why protests are just as important and influential as voting when it comes to making change!

 

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[ChiGoose]

1 hour ago, JDHillFan said:

I’m focused on your claim that so many people immediately think about sex when they see two guys holding hands.  It seems like something that’s in your head that you want to believe. Your reason for believing it is apparently that moms for liberty were trying to put the kibosh on a couple yearbook pages. 

Groups like Moms For Liberty want to ban any mention or reference of LGBT people in schools because they believe it’s sexual content to even acknowledge that LGBT people exist. 
 

So I’m not sure how you can conclude otherwise than people like them immediately think of sex when they see LGBT people. 

[B-Man]

8 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

Groups like Moms For Liberty want to ban any mention or reference of LGBT people in schools because they believe it’s sexual content to even acknowledge that LGBT people exist. 
 

 

 

This is untrue and requires a link that says that.

 

 

 

Link to their site.

 

https://www.momsforliberty.org/about/

 

 

I see that the Wikipedia references have all been politicized.

 

 

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Edited June 26, 2023 by B-Man

[JDHillFan]

1 minute ago, ChiGoose said:

Groups like Moms For Liberty want to ban any mention or reference of LGBT people in schools because they believe it’s sexual content to even acknowledge that LGBT people exist. 
 

So I’m not sure how you can conclude otherwise than people like them immediately think of sex when they see LGBT people. 

You are veering into redhawk territory. Why can’t you make your point without such ridiculous hyperbole? 

[BillsFanNC]

Another way @ChiGoose , the King, tells us that he's in league with avowed communists....

 

 

[BillStime]

4 hours ago, aristocrat said:

stumped 

 

Why should my personal beliefs be imposed on policy?

 

Parents should have the right to do what they think is best for THEIR children, NOT MINE.

 

 

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

^^^^^^

 

Upset at no longer being the King....

[ChiGoose]

21 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

This is untrue and requires a link that says that.

 

 

 

Link to their site.

 

https://www.momsforliberty.org/about/

 

 

I see that the Wikipedia references have all been politicized.

 

 

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Here’s the link I already posted: https://www.thedailybeast.com/moms-for-liberty-loses-its-sht-over-seminole-school-yearbooks-lgbtq-page

 

 

21 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

You are veering into redhawk territory. Why can’t you make your point without such ridiculous hyperbole? 

If someone thinks a picture of an LGBT student just being a student is sexual content, I’m struggling to see what other conclusions you can draw about them. 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

Fabulous.

 

BillsTime agrees with Moms For Liberty

 

2 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Parents should have the right to do what they think is best for THEIR children, NOT MINE.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Though the group has been accused of being behind efforts to pull books from library shelves, members say they simply want to ensure that their children are only exposed to age-appropriate content.

 

 “Curating a children’s library is not banning books,” 

 

 

 

"The things Moms for Liberty is fighting is pornography in public schools, obscenity in school, teaching children scientific ideologies or non-scientific ideologies that people are saying is proven science which no one has agreed to yet," Descovich said.

 

She’s referring to the acceptance of gender transition in school. They’ve been a driving force in laws restricting instruction on gender identity and sexual orientation

in early grades, and in drawing lines on what is and is not age appropriate in all grades.

 

https://www.fox13news.com/news/moms-for-libertys-florida-roots-have-spread-across-country-influenced-local-school-politics

 

 

 

 

 

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All this has been twisted by the left into, "They want to outlaw any talk about Gays"

 

and sadly parroted by posters here.

 

 

https://www.fox13news.com/news/moms-for-libertys-florida-roots-have-spread-across-country-influenced-local-school-politics

[BillStime]

2 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

^^^^^^

 

Upset at no longer being the King....

 

Still...

 

[B-Man]

1 minute ago, ChiGoose said:

Here’s the link I already posted: https://www.thedailybeast.com/moms-for-liberty-loses-its-sht-over-seminole-school-yearbooks-lgbtq-page

 

 

 

No, no, no.

 

one chapter (incorrectly) objecting to a yearbook picture, not curriculum or teaching

 

Certainly does NOT equal your statement.

 

30 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

Groups like Moms For Liberty want to ban any mention or reference of LGBT people in schools because they believe it’s sexual content to even acknowledge that LGBT people exist. . 

 

 

You have made an over the top claim  (not unusual)   and you can't hide behind that little bit of nonssense.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[BillsFanNC]

How dare this hate group moms for liberty demand that schools and government not indoctrinate their kids with qu..ee.r theory BS.

 

That kind of stuff isn't happening anyway,  and you can't point to anyone saying that's the goal.

 

Oh?

 

https://twitter.com/scarlett4kids/status/1672684450189025282?s=19

 

Elon has to fix this crap of videos not allowed to be embedded...

 

It's a video at the NYC pride parade where this clear chant is heard..

 

"We’re here, we’re q.u..ee.r, we’re coming for the children.”  

-NYC Pride Parade 2023

Edited June 26, 2023 by BillsFanNC

[ChiGoose]

25 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

No, no, no.

 

one chapter (incorrectly) objecting to a yearbook picture, not curriculum or teaching

 

Certainly does NOT equal your statement.

 

 

 

You have made an over the top claim  (not unusual)   and you can't hide behind that little bit of nonssense.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I suppose there’s just no evidence of a movement to oppose any LGBT content as sexual and therefore inappropriate. Definitely nobody out there trying to do that and label anyone who opposes them as a groomer.

Meet Moms for Liberty, the group leading LGBTQ book bans in Pa. schools

 

“Originally focused on opposing mask mandates in schools during the COVID-19 pandemic, Moms for Liberty quickly expanded its agenda to oppose LGBT-positive policies in schools, LGBT-themed materials in school libraries, what they believe is critical race theory in curricula, and many other diversity-positive issues related to schools and students.”

 

A Far Right Moms Group Is Targeting Students. These Women Are Fighting Back.

 

“But the more Cousins pushed back against book bans, the more Farrant, who is now an Orange County School Board member, and Moms for Liberty, came after her. 

Over the next 10 months, the group led an online harassment campaign against Cousins. Members took pictures of her children and posted them on Facebook, including on one occasion when Cousins and her family attended a drag brunch in support of a survivor of the Pulse nightclub shooting. 

“I don’t know how they got access to my pictures, but they did. They posted them everywhere, constantly calling me a groomer and a pedophile. It just spiraled, it got pretty nasty,” Cousins told VICE News.”

 

Yes, I Read The 111-Page Moms For Liberty Book Ban Document

“The game Moms for Liberty is playing is one where kids and teens are the same.

There’s a world of difference between having a book like Gender ***** in an elementary school library and having a book like Gender ***** in a high school library.

I agree that Gender ***** might not be appropriate for an elementary school library. But I'm not agreeing with Moms for Liberty, I'm agreeing with Gender *****'s author Maia Kobabe:

It was always planned to come out from the older-reader imprint of my publisher, aimed for either adults or high teens, like 16-plus.

…

But what MFL does throughout the document is collapse “kids” and “teens” into the same group by using the term "our children" to describe both.“

 

Students and authors sue Florida school district that banned a book about two male penguins

 

“Last year, the school board in Lake County, near Orlando, barred students who are in kindergarten through third grade from accessing “And Tango Makes Three,” a 2005 book based on a true story about two male penguins at New York City’s Central Park Zoo who adopted and raised an orphaned penguin chick named Tango.”

[Unforgiven]

1 hour ago, ChiGoose said:

Groups like Moms For Liberty want to ban any mention or reference of LGBT people in schools because they believe it’s sexual content to even acknowledge that LGBT people exist. 
 

So I’m not sure how you can conclude otherwise than people like them immediately think of sex when they see LGBT people. 

Why should there be any sexual content in school there, groomer?

 

[JDHillFan]

4 hours ago, ChiGoose said:

I’m just wondering why so many people are complaining about sex when they see two gay people just existing. 

Yes, this is an absolute scourge. So many people are complaining about sex when they see gay people existing. 
 

You have zeroed in on moms for liberty and their push at schools. Not a bit of what you have shown confirms your redhawk-like over the top claim. Who are the other “so many people” complaining about sex because gay people exist? 

[TSOL]

8 hours ago, Tiberius said:

This thread is just more proof that "pro-life" is nothing more than anti-women 

 

 

You must be "pro-life" 

 

 

Well I'm certainly not pro death