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If you hear about the absenteeism being out of control, it is not a joke. I have an Honors class in the middle of the day where 19 of 26 already have 10+ absences. Generally at 10 absences for the year and A is hard to reach. 10 of the students are on pace for 20 absences and at that point a B is generally unrealistic. How is a teacher responsible for kids they don't see?

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Public education is turning into social education/indoctrination centers and are failing on their mandate to educate the children..

 

Other counties are eating our kids lunch when they try to enter the market with defective skills.

 

Anyone that can afford it.  Sends their kids to private.   People spend half their pay to live in areas that have decent districts. The rest fight for charters and consider homeschooling. 

 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

Public education is turning into social education/indoctrination centers and are failing on their mandate to educate the children..

 

Other counties are eating our kids lunch when they try to enter the market with defective skills.

 

Anyone that can afford it.  Sends their kids to private.   People spend half their pay to live in areas that have decent districts. The rest fight for charters and consider homeschooling. 

 

 

 

 

Socialist doctrines produce and attract losers.  You won't find many high-performers among them.

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21 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

If you hear about the absenteeism being out of control, it is not a joke. I have an Honors class in the middle of the day where 19 of 26 already have 10+ absences. Generally at 10 absences for the year and A is hard to reach. 10 of the students are on pace for 20 absences and at that point a B is generally unrealistic. How is a teacher responsible for kids they don't see?

How is this even possible? Are the parents just completely disconnected? Do these kids (Honors) expect to go to college?

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Its not just dumb kids doing dumb things.

 

By a 13-2 vote, the 6 win, 21 loss, Dartmouth men's college basketball team voted to join Local 560 of the Service Employees International Union. 

 

The school responded to the situation with a statement, "The students on the men’s basketball team are not in any way employed by Dartmouth. For Ivy League students who are varsity athletes, academics are of primary importance, and athletic pursuit is part of the educational experience. Classifying these students as employees simply because they play basketball is as unprecedented as it is inaccurate."

 

The Ivy League doesn't give athletic scholarships, but does give need-based ones. The total annual cost of attendance at Dartmouth for the current academic year is $87,315.  Good grief!

 

Whether your views are left, center, or right, its got to be hard to believe anything other than our system is broken.

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11 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

How is this even possible? Are the parents just completely disconnected? Do these kids (Honors) expect to go to college?

When one is a product of their environment, they don't see the future, they see it one day at a time. it's called the hustle/servival.

 

  

 

people from Sheltered upbringings don't understand because they have never lived or experienced it.

 

 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

When one is a product of their environment, they don't see the future, they see it one day at a time. it's called the hustle/servival.

 

  

 

people from Sheltered upbringings don't understand because they have never lived or experienced it.

 

 

 

 

 

I'll wait for @Orlando Tim to answer, but I kind of doubt these are kids who see "no future." My experience (just from the parent side) is that if anything they have too much self-esteem and too much confidence in their ability to get ahead without doing the work.

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1 hour ago, Tommy Callahan said:

When one is a product of their environment, they don't see the future, they see it one day at a time. it's called the hustle/servival.

 

  

 

people from Sheltered upbringings don't understand because they have never lived or experienced it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said:

How is this even possible? Are the parents just completely disconnected? Do these kids (Honors) expect to go to college?

What Frank said about too high self esteem is not off the mark for many of these kids. I will state most of the kids I teach have parents who have money to pay full freight for a college, so scholarships and such are not top of mind. Also most colleges have acceptance rates north of 50% so being from my school and being a 3.0 gpa kid gets you into most schools. During 2021 COVID was top of mind and kids stayed home with minor colds, and that seems to be continuing, which is an issue. Lastly I definitely have the kids who don't care about college or the future also, but the issue we have is we can't kick them out really until they turn 19 even if they are not doing much of anything.

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1 hour ago, Orlando Tim said:

 

What Frank said about too high self esteem is not off the mark for many of these kids. I will state most of the kids I teach have parents who have money to pay full freight for a college, so scholarships and such are not top of mind. Also most colleges have acceptance rates north of 50% so being from my school and being a 3.0 gpa kid gets you into most schools. During 2021 COVID was top of mind and kids stayed home with minor colds, and that seems to be continuing, which is an issue. Lastly I definitely have the kids who don't care about college or the future also, but the issue we have is we can't kick them out really until they turn 19 even if they are not doing much of anything.

My bad. I thought you taught city kids.

 

interesting to read how that's moved onto the privileged class as well.

 

 

 

 

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46 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

interesting to read how that's moved onto the privileged class as well.

And if you listen to them, a lot of these kids really believe they’ll be an influencer or YouTube star, so finishing high school and going to college is just a thing you do until that becomes a reality. 
I know it’s an “ok boomer” comment, but there really is a culture of laziness. 

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13 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

And if you listen to them, a lot of these kids really believe they’ll be an influencer or YouTube star, so finishing high school and going to college is just a thing you do until that becomes a reality. 
I know it’s an “ok boomer” comment, but there really is a culture of laziness. 

that's insane but explains a lot of what's going on.  

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

And if you listen to them, a lot of these kids really believe they’ll be an influencer or YouTube star, so finishing high school and going to college is just a thing you do until that becomes a reality. 
I know it’s an “ok boomer” comment, but there really is a culture of laziness. 

 

Or they have mommy's and daddy's money and/or basement to fall back on.

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This counts.  What happened on the court today in a WOMAN’S game.  Absolutely embarrassing.  
 

It shouldn’t happen in men’s games.  Woman now?   
 

Society in complete free fall.  
 

 

Ladies, remember, you’re better than men.  Stop emulating the worst traits of the worst of the genders.  
 

Don’t be like the men.  Be better.  

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