Andy1 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Now consider that Independents are the largest single voting block. Republicans have screwed themselves with their unending devotion to Trump. They can’t win with Trump and they can’t win without him. Edited August 17, 2023 by Andy1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) same poll as Billsy's but a bit more info. New R's have burned their own party down. Bravo! https://news.yahoo.com/trump-plunges-35-favorable-rating-192900652.html "But he has scant popularity outside his base of GOP voters, a scenario that has some analysts predicting a general election disaster for the party if he is on the ballot next November." Because everyone else has a working brain and are not extremist , mad crazies. Edited August 17, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 55 minutes ago, Kemp said: https://www.axios.com/2023/08/17/texas-woman-charged-trump-judge-kill-threat Another lovely Trump supporter. How many others like her has Trump riled up, besides some of the idiots here. Mental illness and Trump supporter go hand-in-hand She probably considers herself a patriot 35 minutes ago, TSOL said: Now, in your opinion, is that something for the courts to decide? Or the media? It’s gonna happen in both that’s just the way it is personally, I think it’s a legal matter now 52 minutes ago, TSOL said: This isn't as clear cut as you want it to be. This is no slam dunk. The Trump team was exploring all legal avenues of getting the vote recounted, and choosing their own electors, which are both perfectly legal. There were no guns being held to anybody's head. Actually, the answer is note that on the electors Once the states have certified elections, having an alternate slate of electors is illegal And there was a recount there was a recount in all of the states, more than one in some of the states 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Mental illness and Trump supporter go hand-in-hand She probably considers herself a patriot Looks like another person added to the long list of people who wrecked their lives by their devotion to Trump. Trump will be encouraging more violence as the legal process continues, with more of his followers lives wrecked. Edited August 17, 2023 by Andy1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Kemp said: https://www.axios.com/2023/08/17/texas-woman-charged-trump-judge-kill-threat Another lovely Trump supporter. How many others like her has Trump riled up, besides some of the idiots here. Just another sad, lonely person radicalized online to believe Trump was some kind of savior. No friends, no children, no hobbies, no education…this is the end result. Really makes me sick how the MAGA movement takes advantage of these people. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Andy1 said: Looks like another person added to the long list of people who wrecked their lives by their devotion to Trump. Trump will be encouraging more violence as the legal process continues, with more of his followers lives wrecked. and some innocent bystanders...Sad to see such desperation but we see it here as well. 3 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Just another sad, lonely person radicalized online to believe Trump was some kind of savior. No friends, no children, no hobbies, no education…this is the end result. Really makes me sick how the MAGA movement takes advantage of these people. add "no money" for most and what little they have they send to their savior. The widows mite....I still think he's the anti Christ. Edited August 17, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted August 17, 2023 Author Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 hour ago, TSOL said: This isn't as clear cut as you want it to be. This is no slam dunk. The Trump team was exploring all legal avenues of getting the vote recounted, and choosing their own electors, which are both perfectly legal. There were no guns being held to anybody's head. By itself, you would be correct. Tied into RICO it's a very big deal because we know Stone was at the meetings at the Willard Hotel before 1/6 along with folks like Rudy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 3 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: “find me 11,000 votes” Or is that merely “challenging” the election? you guys are grasping at straws. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted August 17, 2023 Author Share Posted August 17, 2023 56 minutes ago, TSOL said: Now, in your opinion, is that something for the courts to decide? Or the media? The courts. And that's where it will be decided. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Kemp said: By itself, you would be correct. Tied into RICO it's a very big deal because we know Stone was at the meetings at the Willard Hotel before 1/6 along with folks like Rudy. It's going to be infinity complicated to get them on racketeering 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: Wow. An ultra biased shill interviewing some other biased shills. Compelling😀 Post See new Tweets Conversation Mike Davis @mrddmia "In one post, written by an ally of Mr. Trump’s, the lawyer Mike Davis, a large photo of Judge Chutkan accompanied text that falsely claimed she had 'openly admitted she’s running election interference against Trump.'" (emphasis added) Fact Check: False. Read Chutkan own words. Lying liars lie. At this point, there just trying to stop the real news from breaking the spirit of the dumb MAGA's Edited August 17, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted August 17, 2023 Author Share Posted August 17, 2023 Just now, TSOL said: It's going to be infinity complicated to get them on racketeering What is needed to convict someone under RICO? The law itself only requires the state to prove that some group of people is committing a pattern of other crimes under the RICO law, according to Pate. "That can include simple stuff like theft, or murder, or drugs, or prostitution. As long as you can show a pattern of TWO or more crimes committed by this group of people that are organized together, you have a potential RICO case," said Pate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Kemp said: What is needed to convict someone under RICO? The law itself only requires the state to prove that some group of people is committing a pattern of other crimes under the RICO law, according to Pate. "That can include simple stuff like theft, or murder, or drugs, or prostitution. As long as you can show a pattern of TWO or more crimes committed by this group of people that are organized together, you have a potential RICO case," said Pate. It's my cousin Vinny vs weekend at Bernie's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Just now, TSOL said: It's my cousin Vinny vs weekend at Bernie's. Perhaps but the actors in the trump movie are terrible.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 33 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Perhaps but the actors in the trump movie are terrible.... Actually, given the lawyers that Trump is forced to use nowadays I think that that movie is entirely applicable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 33 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Perhaps but the actors in the trump movie are terrible.... See, the Dems make it too personal. This is a grudge match, not racketeering 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Just now, John from Riverside said: Actually, given the lawyers that Trump is forced to use nowadays I think that that movie is entirely applicable Got a point. you all would line up to hand your money over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 14 minutes ago, Chris farley said: Aw. the fascist mob was up late last night attacking anyone with different opinions. Pot meet kettle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Just now, John from Riverside said: Pot meet kettle yes john. you can be both the pot and kettle BTW, did you attend Amherst or something? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 10 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: example 8,567,764- Democrats… deadbeats that are always working new angles to steal other peoples money. Yeah - you’re not an independent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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