The Walls be Closing

[Joe Ferguson forever]

49 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

I'm going to go way out on a limb and say that Trump's poll numbers go up....again.

 

 

And you think that's a good sign for the future of the country?  That many Americans now believe that crime pays and is perfectly acceptable?  The party of law and order?  Give me a f'in break...bunch of rag tag rioters and insurrectionists.

Edited August 2, 2023 by redtail hawk

[BillsFanNC]

4 minutes ago, 49er Fan said:

“Exonerated?” Chansley was sentenced to 41 months in prison.

 - and he served that time.  The “video” you reference was laughed out of court by the judge when Chansley tried to withdraw his guilty plea: 

 

“These videos are decidedly not exculpatory.  Such footage, conveniently omitted by the [Fox News] program, shows nearly all of Mr. Chansley’s actions that day, including: carrying a six-foot-long pole armed with a spearhead, unlawfully entering the Capitol through a broken door, disobeying orders from law enforcement on more than a half-dozen occasions, screaming obscenities, entering the Senate chamber, climbing onto the Senate dais, sitting in the Vice President’s chair, and leaving a threatening message for the Vice President. That law enforcement officers outnumbered by the quantity of rioters did not physically engage Mr. Chansley or impede his progress is irrelevant.”

 

A commie judge said commie things? No way!

 

I don't give a ***** about any of that.

 

Because I'm a sensible human being who can take in visual data, interpret it and make my own conclusions.

 

Unlike useful idiots who have been rendered incapable of such activity. Like yourself.

[The Frankish Reich]

4 minutes ago, 49er Fan said:

“Exonerated?” Chansley was sentenced to 41 months in prison.

 - and he served that time.  The “video” you reference was laughed out of court by the judge when Chansley tried to withdraw his guilty plea: 

 

“These videos are decidedly not exculpatory.  Such footage, conveniently omitted by the [Fox News] program, shows nearly all of Mr. Chansley’s actions that day, including: carrying a six-foot-long pole armed with a spearhead, unlawfully entering the Capitol through a broken door, disobeying orders from law enforcement on more than a half-dozen occasions, screaming obscenities, entering the Senate chamber, climbing onto the Senate dais, sitting in the Vice President’s chair, and leaving a threatening message for the Vice President. That law enforcement officers outnumbered by the quantity of rioters did not physically engage Mr. Chansley or impede his progress is irrelevant.”

The theory seems to be that Chansley wasn't beaten or shot, hence his entry was authorized.

Of course if you've already broken in and then you proceed to try to break through an interior door into the Speaker's office, and are shot and killed when confronted by law enforcement, you were murdered.

Such is the logic of the January 6 apologists.

[BillsFanNC]

This part from the commie judge is particularly rich:

 

That law enforcement officers outnumbered by the quantity of rioters did not physically engage Mr. Chansley or impede his progress is irrelevant.”

 

 

Impede his progress? Irrelevant.

 

How about law enforcement officers  escorting him inside the friggin Senate chamber? How "irrelevant" is that?

 

***** off with impeding progress.

 

Or the NINE "outnumbered officers"  who allowed Chansley, by himself, to walk right past them inside?

 

Useful.

 

Idiots.

Edited August 2, 2023 by BillsFanNC

[Joe Ferguson forever]

11 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

This part from the commie judge is particularly rich:

 

That law enforcement officers outnumbered by the quantity of rioters did not physically engage Mr. Chansley or impede his progress is irrelevant.”

 

 

Impede his progress? Irrelevant.

 

How about law enforcement officers  escorting him inside the friggin Senate chamber? How "irrelevant" is that?

 

***** off with impeding progress.

 

Or the NINE "outnumbered officers"  who allowed Chansley, by himself, to walk right past them inside?

 

Useful.

 

Idiots.

as opposed to useless or even harmful idiots?  I'd pick useful every time.

Edited August 2, 2023 by redtail hawk

[BillsFanNC]

 

[SCBills]

If this is where we’re at, so be it….

 

This needs to be investigated and Hillary Clinton, Adam Schiff etc., should face potential prison time. 
 

 

[49er Fan]

16 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

This part from the commie judge is particularly rich:

 

That law enforcement officers outnumbered by the quantity of rioters did not physically engage Mr. Chansley or impede his progress is irrelevant.”

 

 

Impede his progress? Irrelevant.

 

How about law enforcement officers  escorting him inside the friggin Senate chamber? How "irrelevant" is that?

 

***** off with impeding progress.

 

Or the NINE "outnumbered officers"  who allowed Chansley, by himself, to walk right past them inside?

 

Useful.

 

Idiots.

Why is all of this so hard for you to understand?  Just being IN the Capitol during a government proceeding without authorization is a crime.  It doesn’t matter if a Capitol police officer invites you in because he’s afraid of getting stomped by a larger, incoming mob,  or any other reason.  They had no legal right to be inside - period.
 

Try to educate yourself about why  hundreds of people were arrested because of their actions on 1/6 - and don’t forget their ringleader - Trump.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

2 minutes ago, SCBills said:

If this is where we’re at, so be it….

 

This needs to be investigated and Hillary Clinton, Adam Schiff etc., should face potential prison time. 
 

 

probably wasting my time but it's hot out and gotta wait for a while for chores...

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/inside-the-mueller-report-a-sophisticated-russian-interference-campaign

[Kemp]

2 hours ago, Irv said:

 

Yeah.  Real great guy.  Did you forget - he's a politician who is getting his hind end slapped in the polls by Trump?  Big Phony.  Will lie/say anything.   What a mess.

 

 

 

Logic fail for you.

If you judge whose a great guy by who's electable, you must think Biden's the greatest guy in America.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

Just now, 49er Fan said:

Why is all of this so hard for you to understand?  Just being IN the Capitol during a government proceeding without authorization is a crime.  It doesn’t matter if a Capitol police officer invites you in because he’s afraid of getting stomped by a larger, incoming mob,  or any other reason.  They had no legal right to be inside - period.
 

Try to educate yourself about why  hundreds of people were arrested because of their actions on 1/6 - and don’t forget their ringleader - Trump.

they don't want to understand or they do and don't care.

[Kemp]

1 hour ago, BillsFanNC said:

I'm going to go way out on a limb and say that Trump's poll numbers go up....again.

 

 

 

His overall numbers will remain unaffected.

Isn't that obvious, yet?

1 hour ago, Irv said:

 

The sand called.  It misses your head.  Dude is running against Trump. Of course he lied.  No way does the Biden DOJ go after him.  He's their asset.  Two-tiered system.  What a mess.   

 

 

 

After a short hiatus, Irv has returned to the sandbox.

[BillsFanNC]

8 minutes ago, 49er Fan said:

Why is all of this so hard for you to understand?  Just being IN the Capitol during a government proceeding without authorization is a crime.  It doesn’t matter if a Capitol police officer invites you in because he’s afraid of getting stomped by a larger, incoming mob,  or any other reason.  They had no legal right to be inside - period.
 

Try to educate yourself about why  hundreds of people were arrested because of their actions on 1/6 - and don’t forget their ringleader - Trump.

 

No *****. Anyone who entered the Capitol and wasn't violent should be charged.

 

With trespassing.

 

Not to four years in federal prison.

 

Why is this so hard for you to understand?

 

I know why.

 

Because youve been told to believe in a fairytale narrative.

 

And you dutifully swallow. Deep.

 

Because you're a useful idiot.

Edited August 2, 2023 by BillsFanNC

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

2 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Pence is the rare Christian in politics who actually believes his oath, sworn on the Bible, means something.

According to some, Pence is a horrible human being bent of personally destroying lives and is innately evil.  He’ll be political fodder for a bit as he’s positioned as a decent and just man by those who hated him before, hate him now, and will hate him in the future. 
 

I think he’s a politician who navigates the bumpy and tumultuous  road between his values and what he needs to do to stay relevant in the political landscape. 
 

Be that as it may, he did the right thing at the right time, and for that, he should be commended. 

 

[SCBills]

4 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

probably wasting my time but it's hot out and gotta wait for a while for chores...

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/inside-the-mueller-report-a-sophisticated-russian-interference-campaign

Do you believe, after all these indictments of Trump, that Hillary Clinton should not have faced indictments as well?

 

Do you believe, after Jack Smith files indictments alleging “disregarding the truth”, that Adam Schiff should get off with no repercussions, when he - along with former Intel officials - knowingly pushed a false story (Intel officials again with the Biden laptop story) to take down a President and/or affect an election?

[Kemp]

1 hour ago, BillsFanNC said:

You'd think leftists wouldn't bring up the shaman considering the video the government hid for so long that exonerated him and resulted in his release from the gulag. 

 

But useful idiots being useful idiots...

 

He was released because he served the normal term for the charges levied and was then sent to a halfway house.

He was NEVER EXONERATED.

Do you really not understand this stuff?

[Pokebball]

Just now, SCBills said:

Do you believe, after all these indictments of Trump, that Hillary Clinton should not have faced indictments as well?

 

Do you believe, after Jack Smith files indictments alleging “disregarding the truth”, that Adam Schiff should get off with no repercussions, when he - along with former Intel officials - knowingly pushed a false story (Intel officials again with the Biden laptop story) to take down a President and/or affect an election?

The real issue here, for a lot of America, is the selective (partisan) application of justice. I didn't vote for Trump either time and certainly won't be in 2024. But this banana republic shyt is the worst thing that has happened in my lifetime in DC politics. It's disgusting and history will look down on the Biden and the Dem party more than it does on Trump, and that is saying a lot.

[BillsFanNC]

Just now, Pokebball said:

The real issue here, for a lot of America, is the selective (partisan) application of justice. I didn't vote for Trump either time and certainly won't be in 2024. But this banana republic shyt is the worst thing that has happened in my lifetime in DC politics. It's disgusting and history will look down on the Biden and the Dem party more than it does on Trump, and that is saying a lot.

 

Not if they win. Then they write ALL the history. 

[Tommy Callahan]

53 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Are crimes “new categories of political conduct?”

LOL. due process. innocent till proven guilty.

 

and the ones yelling guilty, have a nice record of being wrong about this topic.

 

but this time the farm and MSM got him.

 

Ham sandwiches can no longer be indicted.

 

 

[SCBills]

Just now, Pokebball said:

The real issue here, for a lot of America, is the selective (partisan) application of justice. I didn't vote for Trump either time and certainly won't be in 2024. But this banana republic shyt is the worst thing that has happened in my lifetime in DC politics. It's disgusting and history will look down on the Biden and the Dem party more than it does on Trump, and that is saying a lot.

Agreed.  Trump certainly didn’t do himself any favors, and in knowing they wanted to come after him, seemed to do everything in his power to ensure they would.  Mainly due to his brazen incompetence.  
 

However, to see Biden lie about his involvement in his sons foreign business dealings, to see Adam Schiff mislead the public for years, to see Intel officials lie in order to affect an election, to see social media companies pressured to censor content that could affect an election, to see Hillary Clinton do much of the same stuff Trump has done - both with documents and election denial - and then see this ultra-aggressive attempt to take down one man for sins committed by many is Black Mirror territory …. And I don’t know how we come back from this.