1onemangang7 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: Which makes this whole thing all the more weird. Beane is essentially admitting there's a disconnect between the players he's bringing in and then what that translates to in Dorsey's offense. Seems almost certain Dorsey is coming back, so I really hope they get on the same page because the draft could be disastrous if they 4 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: Which makes this whole thing all the more weird. Beane is essentially admitting there's a disconnect between the players he's bringing in and then what that translates to in Dorsey's offense. Seems almost certain Dorsey is coming back, so I really hope they get on the same page because the draft could be disastrous if they aren't. Deuce Vaughn lol. Another bust. Your hypocrisy is off the charts. You just argued all that and then say he doesn't fit. Sorry I gotta block your dumb ass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1onemangang7 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Billz4ever said: Please do. You've already made yourself look foolish. Not having your drivel clogging up my screen would make my day. You should do Fansville commercials 🤣. You agreed with "foolish" after 2 hrs of arguments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1onemangang7 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: So much for the block thing, eh? Knew you were full of it, and it was too good to be true. Kinda like drafting Hall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 1 minute ago, 1onemangang7 said: Kinda like drafting Hall? You're now stealing other people's logos? You're a child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeBreton Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 58 minutes ago, 1onemangang7 said: The position requires zero seasoning. They reached. They made a mistake That's a bust. I absolutely agree the Bills reached on James Cook, but that doesn't necessarily make him a bust. He can still be a weapon but he's a committee back, they need a bigger hard nosed RB to pair with him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1onemangang7 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 21 minutes ago, CapeBreton said: I absolutely agree the Bills reached on James Cook, but that doesn't necessarily make him a bust. He can still be a weapon but he's a committee back, they need a bigger hard nosed RB to pair with him. And some wanna put 20lbs on him with an off season program. I just call a spade a spade . Sorry 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 13 minutes ago, 1onemangang7 said: And some wanna put 20lbs on him with an off season program. I just call a spade a spade . Sorry Cook has the frame to carry an extra 10 pounds easily. I don’t remember anybody saying that he needed to gain 20 pounds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1onemangang7 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Cook has the frame to carry an extra 10 pounds easily. I don’t remember anybody saying that he needed to gain 20 pounds. Alright John. So then it wasn't a bust? Team was built. There wasn't a "bigger hard nosed rb" to pair with him as Cape suggests and you still defend drafting a project. Sacrifice a super bowl season for a project. Good idea. We can win after he puts on enough to still not fit the need. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, 1onemangang7 said: Alright John. So then it wasn't a bust? Team was built. There wasn't a "bigger hard nosed rb" to pair with him as Cape suggests and you still defend drafting a project. Sacrifice a super bowl season for a project. Good idea. We can win after he puts on enough to still not fit the need. Once again, making the incorrect assumption that Cook was drafted with the expectations he would immediately be this elite back who should take over the league on Day 1. Cook was drafted because the McKissic deal fell through. Unless you're going to try to make the claim McKissic was being brought in to be our every down feature back, you're obviously way off base. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Billz4ever said: I thought the McKissic fiasco made it obvious what type of back Beane wanted. Apparently, it wasn't quite so obvious to some. Then, there's zero attempt to add that piece to the offense. Even after the addition of Hines, it never happened. I think it's safe to say Beane had more in-mind for Hines than just returning kicks. Most of Allen's runs are scrambles out of the pocket after protection breaks down or he can't find a receiver, so please stop trying to make it sound like Allen's yardage all from designed QB runs. Agreed. he had some success catching the ball 5 catches 50+ yards and a TD. Running the ball, he resembled the great Reggie Bush. 6 rushes -3 yards. he had no chance when he took a handoff. I would bet that some of the blame would fall on the play calling. Not just poor OL. Every game is a chess match between OCs and DCs. It’s not just players making plays. The SB window is open and we’re rolling the dice with a guy that “might” be a good OC/ play caller. No one knows if he’s good. He wasn’t last year Imo. Not saying he’s bad either. Just the jury is still out on a coaching position that is vital to teams succeeding. Especially with a defensive HC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 1 minute ago, NewEra said: Agreed. he had some success catching the ball 5 catches 50+ yards and a TD. Running the ball, he resembled the great Reggie Bush. 6 rushes -3 yards. he had no chance when he took a handoff. I would bet that some of the blame would fall on the play calling. Not just poor OL. Every game is a chess match between OCs and DCs. It’s not just players making plays. The SB window is open and we’re rolling the dice with a guy that “might” be a good OC/ play caller. No one knows if he’s good. He wasn’t last year Imo. Not saying he’s bad either. Just the jury is still out on a coaching position that is vital to teams succeeding. Especially with a defensive HC. If Beane and Dorsey don't get on the same page, this draft could turn out to be a real s*** show. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1onemangang7 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: Agreed. he had some success catching the ball 5 catches 50+ yards and a TD. Running the ball, he resembled the great Reggie Bush. 6 rushes -3 yards. he had no chance when he took a handoff. I would bet that some of the blame would fall on the play calling. Not just poor OL. Every game is a chess match between OCs and DCs. It’s not just players making plays. The SB window is open and we’re rolling the dice with a guy that “might” be a good OC/ play caller. No one knows if he’s good. He wasn’t last year Imo. Not saying he’s bad either. Just the jury is still out on a coaching position that is vital to teams succeeding. Especially with a defensive HC. No one is good enough at OC if the qb is the run game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, 1onemangang7 said: No one is good enough at OC if the qb is the run game. Name me all the teams with a great run game that have an O-line ranked in the bottom quarter of the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1onemangang7 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Billz4ever said: Name me all the teams with a great run game that have an O-line ranked in the bottom quarter of the league. So that's your excuse to carry 3 undersized backs? Trade one for another? Lmao they're obsessed. Name me another team that had 3 losses in the super bowl era with an OL ranked in the bottom quarter of the leauge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Just now, 1onemangang7 said: So that's your excuse to carry 3 undersized backs? Trade one for another? Lmao they're obsessed. Name me another team that had 3 losses in the super bowl era with an OL ranked in the bottom quarter of the league. So you can't. Gotcha. No O-Line, no effective running game. This isn't rocket science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, 1onemangang7 said: No one is good enough at OC if the qb is the run game. James cook averaged 5.7 ypc…… he’s not the reason Josh Allen was the run game. oh wait…. 81 year old Bill Parcells 14 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: If Beane and Dorsey don't get on the same page, this draft could turn out to be a real s*** show. No doubt Edited February 6, 2023 by NewEra 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Billz4ever said: Which makes this whole thing all the more weird. Beane is essentially admitting there's a disconnect between the players he's bringing in and then what that translates to in Dorsey's offense. Seems almost certain Dorsey is coming back, so I really hope they get on the same page because the draft could be disastrous if they aren't. Beane knows what style he wants to run and that's why he acquired Cook & Hines. The problem 100% lies in Josh and Ken. Over Josh's first 3-4 seasons he was devastating, running both designed plays and pocket breakdowns. I think in Josh's mind he feels he still has to be the guy running for 80-90 yards. It's in his blood and ego. Dorsey to some degree has fed this narrative and has added the freedom for Josh to go nuts with deep routes. Short safe and productive checkdowns kind of ended week 3. When opponents saw this they implemented a spy with cover shell. And it worked. Unfortunately both Josh and Ken never returned to using dumpoffs and checkdowns like they did against the Rams & Titans. This will be McB's biggest challenge convincing Josh & Ken why the short passes are so instrumental in running a complete offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 14 minutes ago, NewEra said: James cook averaged 5.7 ypc…… he’s not the reason Josh Allen was the run game. oh wait…. 81 year old Bill Parcells No doubt Completely agree. The problem this April won't be selecting offensive players. It will be making sure Beane & Dorsey are 100% committed to getting "the right offensive players". If they're not in agreement it will be a disaster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 7:20 AM, Solomon Grundy said: Are you willing to reach for another Basham/Epenesa for a need or would you want to have the best player in college football @ 31? Who the hell said I wanted a DE. Read my short post very carefully. It says WR/ OL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 This team refuses to use Cook and Hines, why would they use this player? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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