BillsFanNC Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said: It's in your address bar. Ahh ok...so just a "thought" out of your ass. Business as usual. Carry on. Edited January 11, 2023 by BillsFanNC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Irrelevant. Comparatively successful does not equal success. Nations that are serious about masking and vax have not succeeded in defeating covid. That includes NZ. Now go stock up on N95 and make sure your miracle vax (which I got the first two of my own free will) is up to date. Are you defining success as no COVID at all? Because that went out the window a long time ago. Seems to me like preventing deaths is worthwhile, but I guess you disagree. In any event, if enough people oppose mitigation, maybe the GOP won’t be able to win elections anymore because their voters will be dead… https://ysph.yale.edu/news-article/study-finds-large-gap-in-excess-deaths-along-partisan-lines-after-covid-19-vaccines-introduced/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Just now, ChiGoose said: Are you defining success as no COVID at all? Because that went out the window a long time ago. Seems to me like preventing deaths is worthwhile, but I guess you disagree. In any event, if enough people oppose mitigation, maybe the GOP won’t be able to win elections anymore because their voters will be dead… https://ysph.yale.edu/news-article/study-finds-large-gap-in-excess-deaths-along-partisan-lines-after-covid-19-vaccines-introduced/ Well, I mean, that was the whole point in releasing the virus, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, wnyguy said: Well, I mean, that was the whole point in releasing the virus, right? This thread is a wild ride of conspiracies. Just waiting for someone to blame the lizard people or the Illuminati. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: This thread is a wild ride of conspiracies. Just waiting for someone to blame the lizard people or the Illuminati. IS that what you just did? And just the ones you dont agree with, or the blue anon ones you have parroted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Are you defining success as no COVID at all? Because that went out the window a long time ago. Seems to me like preventing deaths is worthwhile, but I guess you disagree. In any event, if enough people oppose mitigation, maybe the GOP won’t be able to win elections anymore because their voters will be dead… https://ysph.yale.edu/news-article/study-finds-large-gap-in-excess-deaths-along-partisan-lines-after-covid-19-vaccines-introduced/ Your contention is that continued masking (kn95 or better) and continued vaccination will bring covid to heel. Is that right? Follow the science? wish-casting 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Your contention is that continued masking (kn95 or better) and continued vaccination will bring covid to heel. Is that right? Follow the science? wish-casting It’s not. My contention is that mitigating risk mitigates risk. It’s a revolutionary concept. I should write a book on it. 5 minutes ago, Chris farley said: IS that what you just did? And just the ones you dont agree with, or the blue anon ones you have parroted? WTF is blue anon? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ChiGoose said: Most Americans. Even after a million deaths, they oppose even the simplest mitigations like mask wearing. If someone is in the type of condition where they are likely to die if they catch Covid, I don’t think a mask is going to help them…imho I don’t think they are efficient enough from preventing contraction… They are better off taking the vaccine imo 👍 Edited January 11, 2023 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: It’s not. My contention is that mitigating risk mitigates risk. It’s a revolutionary concept. I should write a book on it. WTF is blue anon? Japan, while not in New Zealand’s class, mitigated the hell out of their Covid risk. The current numbers don’t seem like it’s paying off that well. Maybe Covid is just different that way. Or maybe it’s just that people don’t care enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Risk mitigation for healthy people under 40 by wearing masks, social distancing etc. is like engaging in lightning strike risk mitigation under clear sunny blue skies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 43 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Japan, while not in New Zealand’s class, mitigated the hell out of their Covid risk. The current numbers don’t seem like it’s paying off that well. Maybe Covid is just different that way. Or maybe it’s just that people don’t care enough. Probably a combination of both. The current strain is much more infectious than the original. Some things that would have worked in the past aren’t as effective against this version 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Probably a combination of both. The current strain is much more infectious than the original. Some things that would have worked in the past aren’t as effective against this version What sorts of things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Probably a combination of both. The current strain is much more infectious than the original. Some things that would have worked in the past aren’t as effective against this version Then its a good thing the current strain is about as lethal as the cold and doesnt even impact kids like every strain is weaker than the one prior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 18 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Probably a combination of both. The current strain is much more infectious than the original. Some things that would have worked in the past aren’t as effective against this version Where @ChiGoose digs himself still deeper... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Imagine if we followed the advice of actual experts in the field and not entrenched self serving bureaucrats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeBills Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 4 hours ago, ChiGoose said: You could just scroll through the numbers and see that the majority of countries had better success at preventing deaths than we did. the United States Covid death data is beyond laughable not remotely accurate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 19 hours ago, Chris farley said: Then its a good thing the current strain is about as lethal as the cold and doesnt even impact kids like every strain is weaker than the one prior. Its not always true that subsequent strains are weaker, but we dont know yet with this one. Just because a strain is highly transmissable doesn't necessarily mean that it's more virulent. The underlying molecular mechanisms are insanely complex. The new highly transmissable XBB.1.5 strain is due to a single amino acid mutation that increased ACE2 receptor binding affinity at the cost of less likely antibody escape, so it remains to be seen if it will even spur a spike in absolute cases, let alone be more virulent. This was an exceptionally rare mutation requiring two nucleotide mutations in the same codon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) On 12/10/2022 at 10:24 AM, Doc said: No need to jump to conclusions. A full investigation needs to be done. Well agree. For my niece couple years ago, before the covid shots come out and just starting covid for USA.. Coxsackie B virus went to the heart. Like sudden death just caught right time. ECMO for a month. Damar Hamlin people blaming the shot (so thankful he is doing alright). But it seems like pretty certain it was cardiac arrest by the hit. People jump to politics too quick and wait for answer. Too many people jumping to conclusion's. Making themselves look bad. Know a person used to work emt seen or did cardiac arrests cpr nothing new in person. (5-6 years ago) It is more baseball injury and other sports. Edited January 12, 2023 by Buffalo Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: Well agree. For my niece couple years ago, before the covid shots come out and just starting covid for USA.. Coxsackie B virus went to the heart. Like sudden death just caught right time. ECMO for a month. Damar Hamlin people blaming the shot (so thankful he is doing alright). But it seems like pretty certain it was cardiac arrest by the hit. People jump to politics too quick and wait for answer. Too many people jumping to conclusion's. Making themselves look bad. Know a person used to work emt seen cardiac arrests nothing new in person. (5-6 years ago) It is more baseball injury and other sports. the media reported signs sure point to that being a possibility. just crazy how that very rare thing only happened 20-30 times a year. https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/24572-commotio-cordis#:~:text=Cases of commotio cordis are extremely rare. There,cases each year. Can you survive commotio cordis%3F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: Well agree. For my niece couple years ago, before the covid shots come out and just starting covid for USA.. Coxsackie B virus went to the heart. Like sudden death just caught right time. ECMO for a month. Damar Hamlin people blaming the shot (so thankful he is doing alright). But it seems like pretty certain it was cardiac arrest by the hit. People jump to politics too quick and wait for answer. Too many people jumping to conclusion's. Making themselves look bad. Know a person used to work emt seen or did cardiac arrests cpr nothing new in person. (5-6 years ago) It is more baseball injury and other sports. How is your niece now? But the vaccine being the underlying cause can't be dismissed out of hand. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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