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Chargers CB JC Jackson done for the year- ruptured patellar tendon


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1 minute ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

I always thought Jackson was pretty good.  He struggled a lot against Diggs, but to call the system in NE "CB Friendly" isn't really true.  He also had 25 INTs in 4 seasons, as a UDFA.  He started playing in the slot, moved outside, replaced Gilmore.  

 

To chase the money after a 3yr UDFA contract, and a 4th year as an RFA?  Don't blame him in the slightest.  Good for him. 

 

 

 

NE does have a DB friendly system, much like the Bills do.  They have the ability to find and coach up DB's to play very solidly in their system.  JC Jackson was a UFA, much like Levi Wallace. However, those players usually don't replicate their success they had when with those teams because they are expected to do more which they don't have the talent to do most times.  Same thing with Malcolm Butler.

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1 minute ago, Big Turk said:

 

Maybe not when he is allowing a QB rating of 112 on passes thrown at him...that's not even replacement level.

 

Yeah, he was not having a good season.  At the end of the day though, this team has missed Bosa.  They don't get enough pressure, and even after spending a ton in FA (and draft picks) they still can't stop the run.  

 

Murray and Tillery were 1st rounders and neither has been very good.  Tranquill was a later pick but he doesn't impress me.  Van Noy isn't good anymore.

 

Then you have the higher priced guys like Jackson, Joseph, Johnson added.  And they literally aren't any better at stopping the run.  

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5 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

NE does have a DB friendly system, much like the Bills do.  They have the ability to find and coach up DB's to play very solidly in their system.  JC Jackson was a UFA, much like Levi Wallace. However, those players usually don't replicate their success they had when with those teams because they are expected to do more which they don't have the talent to do most times.  Same thing with Malcolm Butler.

 

Comparing him to Levi Wallace is insane.  Wallace was trash in man coverage and has 7 career INTs and 34 PDs in 55 starts.  Jackson had 25 INTs and 55 PDs.  


Malcolm butler played 3 seasons in Tenn, and I wouldn't say he was inherently bad.  His numbers were never really that impressive in NE either - he was made famous by a play he made in the super bowl.  I'd say Logan Ryan but Tennessee changed his position when they brought him in so... there's somewhat of a tough learning curve there.  

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39 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

Comparing him to Levi Wallace is insane.  Wallace was trash in man coverage and has 7 career INTs and 34 PDs in 55 starts.  Jackson had 25 INTs and 55 PDs.  


Malcolm butler played 3 seasons in Tenn, and I wouldn't say he was inherently bad.  His numbers were never really that impressive in NE either - he was made famous by a play he made in the super bowl.  I'd say Logan Ryan but Tennessee changed his position when they brought him in so... there's somewhat of a tough learning curve there.  

 

Not comparing him directly to Wallace, just saying how both teams find and develop quality players that are UDFA's.  Jackson had a lot of picks, but the Bills still had the better pass D...even with Wallace.

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1 hour ago, Irv said:

The problems all started with Sid Gillman.

Sid Gillman was a genius. It was always so much fun watching his offenses play. They were fresh, innovative and exciting. He also had Lance Alworth who made that long game work. Every so often a coach comes along that really revolutionizes the game. Sid was one of those few. He was a great coach.

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1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said:

Jackson may be another prime example of a patriots player who might be more the product of the system vs individual talent.

 

Bigger issue going forward is that's a brutal injury for a DB to recover from.

 

I always thought he was a good man corner.  For whatever reason he couldn't hang with Diggs, few really can.  Diggs struggled a ton with ward at KC (he's pretty grabby).  

 

Yeah, long road ahead, but he got a big guarantee so at least it didn't happen on his rookie deal or RFA tender last year.  

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