JerseyBills Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 McVay - "It was a humbling experience " Vrabel - "We got our a$$ kicked" Tomlin - " Satisfied with the effort? We just got Smashed" We're not just beating quality coaches, we're making them second guess their entire existence! 4 5 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwhit34 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 There's not much else they can say. I question the conventional opinion on Tomlin at this point in his coaching career. He has been a very good coach, as many have noted he has never had a losing record. However, he has not adapted to how the game has evolved. A few from yesterday: Down 24-3, 3:39 left in first half, 4th and 5 at Buffalo 15 he opts for a FG into the wind instead of going for a first down. Steelers get the ball back with 4L19 left in 3rd down 31-3 at own 20. Per game log he goes no-huddle 2 times. The 10 plays take them to end of quarter, which on the last play of the quarter... Down 28 points 4th and 13 at the Bills 27, he tries a FG and again misses. Irony: after he tries that last FG, what do the Bills do to start the 4th? Pass to Diggs for 41 and a 24 TD run by Cook. Bills go 65 yards in 57 seconds while up 28. Tomlin seems to like to punt and kick FGs vs. going for it when the situation call for it. With the game out of hand it was a good opportunity for him to give Pickett experience in those situations (run no huddle, go for it on 4th) with really no pressure. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddicksTDLeap Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 12 minutes ago, jwhit34 said: There's not much else they can say. I question the conventional opinion on Tomlin at this point in his coaching career. He has been a very good coach, as many have noted he has never had a losing record. However, he has not adapted to how the game has evolved. A few from yesterday: Down 24-3, 3:39 left in first half, 4th and 5 at Buffalo 15 he opts for a FG into the wind instead of going for a first down. Steelers get the ball back with 4L19 left in 3rd down 31-3 at own 20. Per game log he goes no-huddle 2 times. The 10 plays take them to end of quarter, which on the last play of the quarter... Down 28 points 4th and 13 at the Bills 27, he tries a FG and again misses. Irony: after he tries that last FG, what do the Bills do to start the 4th? Pass to Diggs for 41 and a 24 TD run by Cook. Bills go 65 yards in 57 seconds while up 28. Tomlin seems to like to punt and kick FGs vs. going for it when the situation call for it. With the game out of hand it was a good opportunity for him to give Pickett experience in those situations (run no huddle, go for it on 4th) with really no pressure. I feel like the point, and it’s an old school way of thinking, is to execute. If you can’t get it done with TD’s, you have to score something. Kicking field goals allowed you to say “ok we got 3, now let’s do it again and get 7”. It gives you something to build on. 4th and 19, no huddle, 3rd and long, it’s all low percentage success. You want to give your team, especially against the 2nd string defense, something to build on during the week. Something positive to look at on film. Imagine if you had a bad week at work, and on Monday your boss hammers you on every tiny thing you did wrong, but never gives you anything to work off of to get better. As Bills fans we saw a lot of low confidence, zero risk taking coaching over the years. The difference between that and Tomlin, is that Tomlin actually builds his team that way. It’s not just Jauron era scared to make a mistake football. It’s “hey we got beat up, but, we did a lot of things right, and we are going to build on that and get better”. Tomlin is a great coach. He’s facing the biggest task of his career; starting over with a new QB. I think how he goes over the next 2-3 seasons will go a long way to determine his legacy. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 24 minutes ago, jwhit34 said: There's not much else they can say. I question the conventional opinion on Tomlin at this point in his coaching career. He has been a very good coach, as many have noted he has never had a losing record. However, he has not adapted to how the game has evolved. A few from yesterday: Down 24-3, 3:39 left in first half, 4th and 5 at Buffalo 15 he opts for a FG into the wind instead of going for a first down. Steelers get the ball back with 4L19 left in 3rd down 31-3 at own 20. Per game log he goes no-huddle 2 times. The 10 plays take them to end of quarter, which on the last play of the quarter... Down 28 points 4th and 13 at the Bills 27, he tries a FG and again misses. Irony: after he tries that last FG, what do the Bills do to start the 4th? Pass to Diggs for 41 and a 24 TD run by Cook. Bills go 65 yards in 57 seconds while up 28. Tomlin seems to like to punt and kick FGs vs. going for it when the situation call for it. With the game out of hand it was a good opportunity for him to give Pickett experience in those situations (run no huddle, go for it on 4th) with really no pressure. I mean I think having a rookie QB in his first start probably effected those decisions but I overall agree with your points. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 What Bills team (pre Allen and pre Diggs) would ever throw from the End Zone on 3rd & 10? NONE… EVER! But now, every Bills player and coach knows that Allen has the ability todo so AND the WRs on the other end are gonna ***** catch it!!! Allen threw that ball 70 yards on a dime! That fact alone,simply terrifies opposing Head Cosches, DCs and players. And they know now, that the next time and the next time and the next time, it can happen again. As in, this juggernaut is never, ever taking the foot off the gas until the opponent is crushed by the end of Q3, when the Subs come in! Awe inspiring after all the absolute trash and stupidity we witnessed from 2000 on. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAinLack. Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 3 hours ago, JerseyBills said: McVay - "It was a humbling experience " Vrabel - "We got our a$$ kicked" Tomlin - " Satisfied with the effort? We just got Smashed" We're not just beating quality coaches, we're making them second guess their entire existence! Next week, Reid - "I never want to see that team again" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, JerseyBills said: McVay - "It was a humbling experience " Vrabel - "We got our a$$ kicked" Tomlin - " Satisfied with the effort? We just got Smashed" We're not just beating quality coaches, we're making them second guess their entire existence! My favorite is always Belichick. "We just didn't make enough plays.......they made plays but we didn't.........we just need to make more plays." Edited October 10, 2022 by Peace Frog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 The opposition looks like what the bills used to look like a few years ago. It's hard but great to get used to 😃 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, jwhit34 said: Tomlin seems to like to punt and kick FGs vs. going for it when the situation call for it. With the game out of hand it was a good opportunity for him to give Pickett experience in those situations (run no huddle, go for it on 4th) with really no pressure. He still does not have trust of his offense under the new QB. This happens when your entire existence has been served by a Hall of Fame Franchise QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 52 minutes ago, ganesh said: He still does not have trust of his offense under the new QB. This happens when your entire existence has been served by a Hall of Fame Franchise QB "Still". It was a rookie QBs first start. Tomlin is a hall of fame football coach. End of story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Billsatlastin2018 said: What Bills team (pre Allen and pre Diggs) would ever throw from the End Zone on 3rd & 10? NONE… EVER! But now, every Bills player and coach knows that Allen has the ability todo so AND the WRs on the other end are gonna ***** catch it!!! Allen threw that ball 70 yards on a dime! That fact alone,simply terrifies opposing Head Cosches, DCs and players. And they know now, that the next time and the next time and the next time, it can happen again. As in, this juggernaut is never, ever taking the foot off the gas until the opponent is crushed by the end of Q3, when the Subs come in! Awe inspiring after all the absolute trash and stupidity we witnessed from 2000 on. most teams would have run up the middle and punted. Glad we're not most teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haroldwaide Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Umm..Fitzpatrick to Owens? Also for 98 yards... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albanybillsbacker Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, haroldwaide said: Umm..Fitzpatrick to Owens? Also for 98 yards... I was thinking the same thing... haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 32 minutes ago, haroldwaide said: Umm..Fitzpatrick to Owens? Also for 98 yards... Ummmm.. Was it THIRD AND TEN? Noooooooo! Which is the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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