The Frankish Reich Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Thanks Frank No politics from me here either. As a traditionally high earner, I can tell you that a consumption tax would be an unnecessary benefit to me and my family. Regardless of the details, we already know that the government is able to tax ‘income’. They do now. The change would be that ALL types of income would taxed at the same rate, and there wouldn’t be any write offs. Your tax form would be extremely short. But…now EVERYONE would have skin in the game and everyone would push back (or not) on tax increases. It has an appeal. But think about business owners. Investments in the business. Business expenses. Etc., etc. Are we going to tax "income" as in "revenue?" Or earnings? And if we're taxing "earnings" we're auditing the write-offs. Just like we do now. Again: Trump (just because we know his situation better than anyone else). He got in trouble by being cheap (and also arguably by trying to conceal an embarrassing fact). He wrote off the Stormy Daniels payoff as a "business expense." Is the New IRS just gonna take his word for it? Or will they have to audit him if there's a pattern of unusual "business expenses?" If getting the IRS off our backs is a big point of tax reform, a flat tax may get us to the 50 yard line, but a total rethink will advance the ball all the way to the goal line. Edited August 17, 2023 by The Frankish Reich 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: It has an appeal. But think about business owners. Investments in the business. Business expenses. Etc., etc. Are we going to tax "income" as in "revenue?" Or earnings? And if we're taxing "earnings" we're auditing the write-offs. Just like we do now. We’re not talking about corporate tax. We’re talking about personal income tax. If you’re asking about people who run their business expenses through their personal finances, I’m sure that would change….but then again if their overall tax rate would be going DOWN I’m not sure they’d have much of a complaint. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 The IRA bill will make china very rich as they hold the vast amount of rare earth minerals needed to produce the battery's And they use slave labor to obtain them. Utility company's are already fighting this bill saying there's no way they can meet the requirements in the timeline of the bill. It's going to be ridiculously expensive and technologically impossible 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, TSOL said: The IRA bill will make china very rich as they hold the vast amount of rare earth minerals needed to produce the battery's And they use slave labor to obtain them. Utility company's are already fighting this bill saying there's no way they can meet the requirements in the timeline of the bill. It's going to be ridiculously expensive and technologically impossible I’ve often wondered about this. This new technology either works or it doesn’t. As only a very small percentage of vehicles are powered by electricity right now (including mine) I will not be the least bit surprised if a very short few years from now we’re all being told that the used batteries are piling up in landfills and we all now need to switch to something else. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I’ve often wondered about this. This new technology either works or it doesn’t. As only a very small percentage of vehicles are powered by electricity right now (including mine) I will not be the least bit surprised if a very short few years from now we’re all being told that the used batteries are piling up in landfills and we all now need to switch to something else. This bill seems like it was written by 20 year old tick tock social media influencers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 48 minutes ago, TSOL said: This bill seems like it was written by 20 year old tick tock social media influencers If not written by, at least approved by... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 For SOME reason Biden's not using title of 'significant piece of legislation' he signed last year It's been just over a year since President Biden signed a "significant piece of clean energy legislation" into law, and we're starting to think the White House is really hoping we've all forgotten what it was called: No Republicans voted for it, KJP -- or whoever wrote that -- because it had nothing to do with reducing inflation (quite the contrary if anything) and was loaded with "clean energy" sham spending. Oh, didn't the law have a name besides "significant piece of legislation"? Yes, it did: Yeah, didn't you also call it the Inflation Reduction Act to get it passed because you knew it wouldn't otherwise. https://twitchy.com/dougp/2023/08/24/for-some-reason-bidens-not-using-title-of-significant-piece-of-legislation-he-signed-last-year-n2386556 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 1 hour ago, B-Man said: For SOME reason Biden's not using title of 'significant piece of legislation' he signed last year It's been just over a year since President Biden signed a "significant piece of clean energy legislation" into law, and we're starting to think the White House is really hoping we've all forgotten what it was called: No Republicans voted for it, KJP -- or whoever wrote that -- because it had nothing to do with reducing inflation (quite the contrary if anything) and was loaded with "clean energy" sham spending. Oh, didn't the law have a name besides "significant piece of legislation"? Yes, it did: Yeah, didn't you also call it the Inflation Reduction Act to get it passed because you knew it wouldn't otherwise. https://twitchy.com/dougp/2023/08/24/for-some-reason-bidens-not-using-title-of-significant-piece-of-legislation-he-signed-last-year-n2386556 Not a chance she wrote that or even anything on her own Twitter account. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 It was always just a democrat allies payoff. Federal revenue falls $416 billion from this time last year despite passage of IRA by Nicholas Ballasy Federal revenue dropped $416 billion compared to this time last year, according to recently released U.S. Treasury Department data, despite the Democrats’ passage of their $780 billion Inflation Reduction Act last year. The legislation, which President Biden signed in August 2022, contained a 15% minimum corporate income tax, which still hasn't been fully implemented by the IRS. Experts at the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget and the Tax Foundation told Just the News that most of the revenue raising provisions in the IRA have not taken effect yet but they likely won't raise much revenue given the price-tag of the energy-related tax credits in the bill. https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/revenue-down-416billion-compared-time-last-year-despite-passage . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted August 30, 2023 Author Share Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) I watched a video the other day of a guy listening to a news cast of how inflation is going down but said i wish i could see the cost of the things i buy coming down that are continuing to go up in cost . Thanks Joe for your untiring & relentless pursuit of a better economy for all, i can & have seen your great economic agenda in action . In the last 3 years my gas prices have increased, my electric prices have now over doubled possibly because of the electric car agenda, my insurance on my vehicles & home owners have all increased, & i have been paying in sometime $1000 or more a week in taxes . YOU DUH MAN JOE !! Edited August 30, 2023 by T master 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 12 minutes ago, B-Man said: I am assuming this is snark. But after Jack Posobiec attributed such things to the Wrath of God, I'm just not sure anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 It's way too late to stop climate change , it will take forever at best. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Be afraid. the 6th mass extinction event that started 10K years ago, is about to get lit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction If humans are considered the cause, guess we are what needs to go. "The Holocene extinction is also known as the "sixth extinction", as it is possibly the sixth mass extinction event, after the Ordovician–Silurian extinction events, the Late Devonian extinction, the Permian–Triassic extinction event, the Triassic–Jurassic extinction event, and the Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event." The Holocene extinction is mainly caused by human activities. [50] [10] [52] [55] Some have suggested that anthropogenic extinctions may have begun as early as when the first modern humans spread out of Africa between 200,000 and 100,000 years ago https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/01/220113194911.htm But you know, if we just spend more on massive stimulus to mega corps with green Ideas for sale, we can fix it. thats fur sure eff, if that doesnt work do more of the same spending, but this time call it the infrastructure bill, or the inflation reduction bill. no one reads past the title anymore. Wonder how all the weapons being used in places like Ukraine push this narrative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 28 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: I am assuming this is snark. Very good Frank. Go take something out of the "smart boys" candy bowl on the desk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 1 hour ago, B-Man said: Very good Frank. Go take something out of the "smart boys" candy bowl on the desk. Im relieved. After one of your Twitter monkeys said something equally stupid, apparently not in jest, I felt compelled to ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Inflation came down but prices stay very high , except eggs , not good at all. What do politicians say, it's the economy stupid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 3 hours ago, B-Man said: Did you think that we were going to see production on this immediately? Why would you think that? 3 hours ago, ALF said: It's way too late to stop climate change , it will take forever at best. We’re seeing effects of it now But when it really hits and we have a really catastrophic event, I wonder what the stance of Republicans will be at that time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 it "works" because the supporters of the ones that passed it, just read the headlines and will 100% support the party. Probably because they don't want to be ostracized like the mob does with any voice outside the umbrella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 I was on the road all day yesterday traveling to and from a speaking engagement. I drove thru a McDonalds to get a fast ‘lunch’ on and off the highway. It’s over TEN DOLLARS for six chicken nuggets, fries and a Diet Coke. Sure….there’s no inflation! 🙄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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