Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, Wacka said: The woman that said this in that clip is the token pin on the five. She routinely gets ridiculed for her idiotic statements. Well, that's a state citation fish depending on who the critics are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 27 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: Wow dude. I get out just fine. you? I'm drawn to these arguments like rubber necking a car accident. Strange but normal on a bell curve. But yup, I'm bored. Maybe I retired too early. Maybe reading some banned books will fill the time....hmmm, Steinbeck! I fully accept and understand the car accident part. But who banned Steinbeck for high school kids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: I fully accept and understand the car accident part. But who banned Steinbeck for high school kids? Props on your civility. pardon mine. Teachers are generally great. Some of the best fisherman I know are teachers - makes sense. So it appears Buffalo, NY and St Louis, MO are on the list: https://study.com/academy/lesson/why-was-the-grapes-of-wrath-banned-censorship-controversy.html. Florida has been debunked but good catch. Writing a banned book might be fun. Not meaning to be flippant. Edited February 19, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Roundybout Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 I have never seen a group of people more utterly terrified of things they don't understand. For the record, the "15-minute-city" is an urban planning concept where everything needed for a healthy life is available within a 15-minute radius, with no need for a car. It's designed to create more sustainable, more lively and exciting cities akin to what we had before urban renewal. Naturally, the far right has decided this is some NWO globalist cabal thing that turns cities into prison camps. It has absolutely no bearing on reality beyond something for pathetic, uneducated losers to scream about. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) 21 hours ago, Roundybout said: I have never seen a group of people more utterly terrified of things they don't understand. For the record, the "15-minute-city" is an urban planning concept where everything needed for a healthy life is available within a 15-minute radius, with no need for a car. It's designed to create more sustainable, more lively and exciting cities akin to what we had before urban renewal. Naturally, the far right has decided this is some NWO globalist cabal thing that turns cities into prison camps. It has absolutely no bearing on reality beyond something for pathetic, uneducated losers to scream about. So you signing up for one of these cities you never leave without a travel pass? Only mass transit? doubt any of them politicians and their donors in the mansions are looking to downsize and shack up with the normies and poors any time soon. Noticing some progressive policies to create hoovervilles for homeless and vets. full circle https://www.homelessauthority.org/tiny-house-project/ https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/26/us/homeless-tiny-home-villages-los-angeles/index.html Edited February 20, 2023 by Chris farley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Chris farley said: So you signing up for one of these cities you never leave without a travel pass? Only mass transit? doubt any of them politicians and their donors in the mansions are looking to downsize and shack up with the normies and poors any time soon. Noticing some progressive policies to create hoovervilles for homeless and vets. full circle https://www.homelessauthority.org/tiny-house-project/ https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/26/us/homeless-tiny-home-villages-los-angeles/index.html Stark raving nonsense. I admit I don't know much about certain topics, but I hold a masters degree in urban planning and work as a professional planner, so I know what I'm talking about here. The 15-minute city is a planning concept for increasing walkability and freedom to move without a car being required. Ever hear that Grandmaster Flash song "The Message?" Great line in it - "Cuz' it's all about money, ain't a damn thing funny - gotta have a car in this land of milk and honey ... " "Never leave without a travel pass" my god dude, this is insanity. The point is you don't NEED a car to go to the grocery store. Like how it was in American cities for 100 years. No one is going to impound your Chevy Tahoe (though I do wish they would be banned in cities out of the interest of pedestrian safety). https://www.cnu.org/publicsquare/2021/02/08/defining-15-minute-city#:~:text=The “15-minute city”,travel distance of 15 minutes. I'm sorry you find anything that isn't a McMansion something for the "poors." I agree that NIMBYism extends to the wealthy too, but given that housing prices have skyrocketed in urban areas, it's proof that the well-to-do desire living in dense and lively urban neighborhoods. I know I do. I cannot believe that right wingers have taken a concept meant to INCREASE freedom and decided it's anti-freedom. It's truely remarkable how terrified they all are of anything new. Utterly cowering, spineless snowflakes. Edited February 20, 2023 by Roundybout 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Stark raving nonsense. I admit I don't know much about certain topics, but I hold a masters degree in urban planning and work as a professional planner, so I know what I'm talking about here. The 15-minute city is a planning concept for increasing walkability and freedom to move without a car being required. Ever hear that Grandmaster Flash song "The Message?" Great line in it - "Cuz' it's all about money, ain't a damn thing funny - gotta have a car in this land of milk and honey ... " "Never leave without a travel pass" my god dude, this is insanity. The point is you don't NEED a car to go to the grocery store. Like how it was in American cities for 100 years. No one is going to impound your Chevy Tahoe (though I do wish they would be banned in cities out of the interest of pedestrian safety). https://www.cnu.org/publicsquare/2021/02/08/defining-15-minute-city#:~:text=The “15-minute city”,travel distance of 15 minutes. I'm sorry you find anything that isn't a McMansion something for the "poors." I agree that NIMBYism extends to the wealthy too, but given that housing prices have skyrocketed in urban areas, it's proof that the well-to-do desire living in dense and lively urban neighborhoods. I know I do. I cannot believe that right wingers have taken a concept meant to INCREASE freedom and decided it's anti-freedom. It's truely remarkable how terrified they all are of anything new. Utterly cowering, spineless snowflakes. LOL, nice ramble. the fact is most that can afford, move out of the inner cities for a number of reasons. The people that talk about designed plans like that, think they wouldnt be part of it. The people in the homes with land, are not giving it up to go live like a pleb. Being isolated to some 15 minute prison is not freedom. They only sky rocket in the genderfied areas. aint no one investing or buying a home over buy the tops. Edited February 20, 2023 by Chris farley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, Chris farley said: LOL, nice ramble. the fact is most that can afford, move out of the inner cities for a number of reasons. Historically, yes, but these trends are changing as people desire urban environments away from social isolation of suburban life. https://ourworldindata.org/urbanization 14 minutes ago, Chris farley said: The people that talk about designed plans like that, think they wouldnt be part of it. Try again, in English this time? 15 minutes ago, Chris farley said: The people in the homes with land, are not giving it up to go live like a pleb. "Live like a pleb" Can you elaborate? Why is city life, historically home to more affluent and powerful people, be like a "pleb?" 15 minutes ago, Chris farley said: Being isolated to some 15 minute prison is not freedom. Not surprised you've subscribed to the snowflake's manufactured fear porn, but there is nowhere in the article I linked stating that people are "isolated" in the cities. Maybe try reading it. 17 minutes ago, Chris farley said: They only sky rocket in the genderfied areas. aint no one investing or buying a home over buy the tops. This contradicts what you wrote. How could an area be gentrifying if people are leaving the cities? The East Side of Buffalo is ripe for development. It will come. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 23 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Historically, yes, but these trends are changing as people desire urban environments away from social isolation of suburban life. https://ourworldindata.org/urbanization Try again, in English this time? "Live like a pleb" Can you elaborate? Why is city life, historically home to more affluent and powerful people, be like a "pleb?" Not surprised you've subscribed to the snowflake's manufactured fear porn, but there is nowhere in the article I linked stating that people are "isolated" in the cities. Maybe try reading it. This contradicts what you wrote. How could an area be gentrifying if people are leaving the cities? The East Side of Buffalo is ripe for development. It will come. https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2021-citylab-how-americans-moved/ https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/29/business/economy/new-home-building-suburbs.html Where does the leadership of Buffalo live? NYS? No mistake. cities would be much better if the DEMS would clean them up and at least try to slow down the gang/gun crime. might help with property values. and investments in those areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Lol this dude really wants to live in a pod and never drive anywhere. Couldn’t be me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, LeviF said: Lol this dude really wants to live in a pod and never drive anywhere. Couldn’t be me. No, he wants others to live in the pod. they never see themselves in these plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, LeviF said: Lol this dude really wants to live in a pod and never drive anywhere. Couldn’t be me. I would love to live in a brownstone walk up or townhome in a walkable neighborhood where I can ride my bike to get groceries instead of living in a soulless miserable cul de sac in some nameless suburb somewhere, yes. Driving sucks. The 15 minute city gives people the option to not have to drive. 16 minutes ago, Chris farley said: https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2021-citylab-how-americans-moved/ https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/29/business/economy/new-home-building-suburbs.html Where does the leadership of Buffalo live? NYS? No mistake. cities would be much better if the DEMS would clean them up and at least try to slow down the gang/gun crime. might help with property values. and investments in those areas. Name one thing Republicans do to address the root issues of crime (poverty and education). I’ll wait. Edited February 20, 2023 by Roundybout 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Just now, Roundybout said: I would love to live in a brownstone walk up or townhome in a walkable neighborhood where I can ride my bike to get groceries instead of living in a soulless miserable cul de sac in some nameless suburb somewhere, yes. Driving sucks. Have you stopped to consider why the formerly walkable neighborhoods suck so hard now? Calling suburbs “soulless” is such an incredible cope I’m not sure where to even start. And of course you’re spandex mafia. Paging @Chef Jim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Roundybout said: I would love to live in a brownstone walk up or townhome in a walkable neighborhood where I can ride my bike to get groceries instead of living in a soulless miserable cul de sac in some nameless suburb somewhere, yes. Driving sucks. The 15 minute city gives people the option to not have to drive. So do it? house in the burbs probably goes for more than an inner-city townhouse/apartment. like an investment. then selling the car, even more savings. https://www.areavibes.com/buffalo-ny/crime/ Edited February 20, 2023 by Chris farley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 8 hours ago, LeviF said: Have you stopped to consider why the formerly walkable neighborhoods suck so hard now? Calling suburbs “soulless” is such an incredible cope I’m not sure where to even start. And of course you’re spandex mafia. Paging @Chef Jim No, you tell me! Gee whiz, would I rather have this: Or this I would rather swan dive into a wood chipper than live on some lifeless cul-de-sac, enslaved to my automobile to get me to the supermarket 25 minutes away. 8 hours ago, Chris farley said: So do it? house in the burbs probably goes for more than an inner-city townhouse/apartment. like an investment. then selling the car, even more savings. https://www.areavibes.com/buffalo-ny/crime/ Investment in underdeveloped areas reduces crime. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Chris farley said: LOL, nice ramble. the fact is most that can afford, move out of the inner cities for a number of reasons. The people that talk about designed plans like that, think they wouldnt be part of it. The people in the homes with land, are not giving it up to go live like a pleb. Being isolated to some 15 minute prison is not freedom. They only sky rocket in the genderfied areas. aint no one investing or buying a home over buy the tops. the $2.4 million, 4 bed, 1 and 1/2 bath attached home on 0.04 acres in Brooklyn isn't likely to be bought by "plebs" https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/22/realestate/downtown-brooklyn.html Edited February 21, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 8 hours ago, Roundybout said: Name one thing Republicans do to address the root issues of crime (poverty and education). I’ll wait. Here you go: https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/11/01/donald-trump-african-american-black-economic-progress-vote-column/6081310002/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 @Roundybout Then go move there dude. Nothing’s stopping you. I lived downtown in a mid size metro for years, I understand what it is you’re looking for. But those places are vanishingly rare. Once I got married I couldn’t justify making my bride park on the street or take the bus at night considering the, erm, increasing vibrancy of the city and neighborhood. We rented a place on the city’s outer limits for a bit before we bought a house in the burbs. Country club is around the corner, shopping complex is five minutes by car or twenty minute walk. Two parks within a five minute walk from my front door, including the local little league field. I have 1650 square feet on 1/3 of an acre and paid $200k for the privilege. Put up a white picket fence last summer to complete the picture. And my kids can play in the yard or even in the street once they’re older like I used to growing up. Life is good brother. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Nice pics. now do the part that shows the parts with the crime stats I sourced. suburbanite lefties always talking about how the other people should live. LMAO. Crime like gang activity and rioting reduces investment into areas. 11 hours ago, redtail hawk said: the $2.4 million, 4 bed, 1 and 1/2 bath attached home on 0.04 acres in Brooklyn isn't likely to be bought by "plebs" https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/22/realestate/downtown-brooklyn.html Now do the same search for 3 blocks over. maybe some Bed Stey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Chris farley said: Nice pics. now do the part that shows the parts with the crime stats I sourced. suburbanite lefties always talking about how the other people should live. LMAO. Crime like gang activity and rioting reduces investment into areas. Now do the same search for 3 blocks over. maybe some Bed Stey? But I thought you said the landed gentry wouldn't want to live in inner cities...do you think maybe Brooklyn is a better place to live with a fattened tax base? Edited February 21, 2023 by redtail hawk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 24 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: But I thought you said the landed gentry wouldn't want to live in inner cities...do you think maybe Brooklyn is a better place to live with a fattened tax base? NY has been throwing money at low socio economic areas for decades. its pretty much a job program for all the charities/groups that take the cash and claim to help. Go ask them folks in the war zones if its getting any better. https://maps.nyc.gov/crime/ its funny how suburbanites love to talk about how great city living is. And city living is great, if you can afford to live in the good parts and enjoy the bustle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Chris farley said: NY has been throwing money at low socio economic areas for decades. its pretty much a job program for all the charities/groups that take the cash and claim to help. Go ask them folks in the war zones if its getting any better. https://maps.nyc.gov/crime/ its funny how suburbanites love to talk about how great city living is. And city living is great, if you can afford to live in the good parts and enjoy the bustle. so what you posted was incorrect... QED Edited February 21, 2023 by redtail hawk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 12 hours ago, LeviF said: @Roundybout Then go move there dude. Nothing’s stopping you. I lived downtown in a mid size metro for years, I understand what it is you’re looking for. But those places are vanishingly rare. Once I got married I couldn’t justify making my bride park on the street or take the bus at night considering the, erm, increasing vibrancy of the city and neighborhood. We rented a place on the city’s outer limits for a bit before we bought a house in the burbs. Country club is around the corner, shopping complex is five minutes by car or twenty minute walk. Two parks within a five minute walk from my front door, including the local little league field. I have 1650 square feet on 1/3 of an acre and paid $200k for the privilege. Put up a white picket fence last summer to complete the picture. And my kids can play in the yard or even in the street once they’re older like I used to growing up. Life is good brother. Suburban schools certainly are better. I fully concede that, right now, it is better to raise kids in a suburban area. That's part of my job - to make our cities better. The 15-minute city is designed to improve urban life and return it to what it was at the turn of the 20th century, with the technological improvements of today. 12 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: Here you go: https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/11/01/donald-trump-african-american-black-economic-progress-vote-column/6081310002/ Yea he really was a game-changer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: Suburban schools certainly are better. I fully concede that, right now, it is better to raise kids in a suburban area. That's part of my job - to make our cities better. The 15-minute city is designed to improve urban life and return it to what it was at the turn of the 20th century, with the technological improvements of today. Yea he really was a game-changer. I’m dying to find out. How is making our cities better, part of your job? Not trying to be snarky…just curious. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 12 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Suburban schools certainly are better. I fully concede that, right now, it is better to raise kids in a suburban area. That's part of my job - to make our cities better. The 15-minute city is designed to improve urban life and return it to what it was at the turn of the 20th century, with the technological improvements of today. Yea he really was a game-changer. you'd think the trickle down believers would be all in to these programs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 On urban vs suburbs debate - the answer is neither. I've lived in both and now I live rural and you need binoculars to see my closest neighbor. It's amazing, I could never go back to the cookie cutter development or the disgusting city. Wish I would have made the move sooner but you don't know what you don't know and not growing up in the country it was unknown to me but it's home now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: you'd think the trickle down believers would be all in to these programs Trickle down? like massive corporate welfare labeled as infrastructure and anti inflation legislation? We have been on supply side economics since LBJ put us on them. Edited February 21, 2023 by Chris farley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 17 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I’m dying to find out. How is making our cities better, part of your job? Not trying to be snarky…just curious. Could be policy side, analyst, lobbying, city planning. Of course he’s under no obligation to disclose information about his employment but there’s plenty of jobs where one could find that goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, Chris farley said: Trickle down? like massive corporate welfare labeled as infrastructure and anti inflation legislation? We have been on supply side economics since JFK put us on them. sometimes u write well and sometimes terribly. I knew u had it in u. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I’m dying to find out. How is making our cities better, part of your job? Not trying to be snarky…just curious. Well as an urban planner I'm constantly working on projects to provide housing and economic development, especially adaptive reuse of blighted historic structures. We've just put out a request for proposal (RFP) for a 200-unit housing project on a former brownfield site that we hope will anchor the development of a relatively poor, formerly industrial neighborhood. Can't give out a whole lot because internet forum, but yea. Edited February 21, 2023 by Roundybout 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Just now, redtail hawk said: sometimes u write well and sometimes terribly. I knew u had it in u. and some folks make comments about other people vs the narrative of the thread. it is what it is. Revenue Act of 1964 Proponents of supply-side economics sometimes cite tax cuts enacted by President Lyndon B. Johnson with the Revenue Act of 1964 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: Well as an urban planner I'm constantly working on projects to provide housing and economic development, especially adaptive reuse of blighted historic structures. We've just put out a request for proposal (RFP) for a 200-unit housing project on a former brownfield site that we hope will anchor the development of a relatively poor, formerly industrial neighborhood. Can't give out a whole lot because internet forum, but yea. Subsidized? On a brownfield site? you first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 i'm hooked on the HGTV shows that revitalize blighted neighborhoods - Detroit and Indy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Chris farley said: On a brownfield site? you first. You know what brownfield means, right? It's been remediated using EPA funds and is certified for human habitation again. You should see the stacks of documents we needed for it! But yes, I am proud that a former miserable wasteland is going to contribute to the area again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: i'm hooked on the HGTV shows that revitalize blighted neighborhoods - Detroit and Indy.... Yeah. I am from Dearborn (Detroit). when they went bankrupt and literally razed the most crime ridden parts of it, it ended up helping long term. should try heading to Detroit and going down past 11th mile. lots of cheap land for sale. Not seeing any new investments in those areas. Now downtown Detroit is very nice. to visit. 2 minutes ago, Roundybout said: You know what brownfield means, right? It's been remediated using EPA funds and is certified for human habitation again. You should see the stacks of documents we needed for it! But yes, I am proud that a former miserable wasteland is going to contribute to the area again. I know that many brownfields remediation is often found to be insufficient when cancer clusters start. is your home on a brownfield. are the complexes subsidized.. Edited February 21, 2023 by Chris farley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Well as an urban planner I'm constantly working on projects to provide housing and economic development, especially adaptive reuse of blighted historic structures. We've just put out a request for proposal (RFP) for a 200-unit housing project on a former brownfield site that we hope will anchor the development of a relatively poor, formerly industrial neighborhood. Can't give out a whole lot because internet forum, but yea. Thanks. I figured that would be it. Are you in the private or public side of urban planning. (My nephew is about to get his Masters degree.) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, Chris farley said: Yeah. I am from Dearborn (Detroit). when they went bankrupt and literally razed the most crime ridden parts of it, it ended up helping long term. should try heading to Detroit and going down past 11th mile. lots of cheap land for sale. Not seeing any new investments in those areas. Now downtown Detroit is very nice. to visit. I know that many brownfields remediation is often found to be insufficient when cancer clusters start. is your home on a brownfield. are the complexes subsidized.. spent some years in Ann Arbor. used to go to Tigers games and paid the "fee" to park and not have my car vandalized. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Just now, redtail hawk said: spent some years in Ann Arbor. used to go to Tigers games and paid the "fee" to park and not have my car vandalized. We did the same back in the day at the Rockpile. Good times! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Make Detroit farmland again! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: We did the same back in the day at the Rockpile. Good times! we used to park in the Sears garage. never a problem but as a little kid I was showered with glass from a rock thrown at the bus from there to the stadium Edited February 21, 2023 by redtail hawk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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