Mark Vader Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 On 6/24/2022 at 4:01 PM, DRsGhost said: Don't hold your breath Senator. Expand I would stay away from big cities. The potential for violence and destruction is very high. 1
Big Blitz Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 On 6/24/2022 at 4:09 PM, B-Man said: Expand I'd like to thank Obama, "stimulus," Obamacare, and his general awfulness for spurring the TEA Party - its culmination in Donald J. Trump - and the spine of Mitch McConnell for getting this to happen. God Bless them and those 5 Supreme Court Justices that understand the Constitution and have a clear moral compass. 1
muppy Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 wow up to 26 states laws could be affected by this decision wether it be immediately, near future or conceivably change their laws and straight up outlaw abortions. Is Abortion Illegal? Your Rights in Every State as Roe v. Wade Overturned (msn.com) the link won't embed.
ChiGoose Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 On 6/24/2022 at 4:14 PM, muppy said: wow up to 26 states laws could be affected by this decision wether it be immediately, near future or conceivably change their laws and straight up outlaw abortions. Is Abortion Illegal? Your Rights in Every State as Roe v. Wade Overturned (msn.com) the link won't embed. Expand Here is an article outlining it: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/24/abortion-state-laws-criminalization-roe/ 13 states with trigger laws will ban abortion shortly. 5 states likely will ban abortion soon 1
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 This is nothing more than an attack on poor women. Trump's people care about a fetus? Ya right. They don't care a fig for the constitution but want to save the unborn? No, this is just a way of hurting people
ChiGoose Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 On 6/24/2022 at 4:19 PM, Tiberius said: This is nothing more than an attack on poor women. Trump's people care about a fetus? Ya right. They don't care a fig for the constitution but want to save the unborn? No, this is just a way of hurting people Expand There are proven ways to reduce the numbers of abortions, but "pro-life" advocates generally oppose them in favor of banning abortion. Truly pro-life would be advocating for pro-natalist policies (which would likely find decent bipartisan support). Banning abortion will not end abortions, it'll just make them less safe. Hard to argue that cruelty isn't the point. 2
Demongyz Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 On 6/24/2022 at 4:18 PM, ChiGoose said: Here is an article outlining it: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/24/abortion-state-laws-criminalization-roe/ 13 states with trigger laws will ban abortion shortly. 5 states likely will ban abortion soon Expand West Wendover Nevada will have abortion clinics next to the casinos for all the Utahites to get abortions. I wonder if they will make adoptions easier and cheaper, that would be great. Maybe the US can reproduce at a fast enough rate to replace the population going forward.
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 On 6/24/2022 at 4:23 PM, ChiGoose said: There are proven ways to reduce the numbers of abortions, but "pro-life" advocates generally oppose them in favor of banning abortion. Truly pro-life would be advocating for pro-natalist policies (which would likely find decent bipartisan support). Banning abortion will not end abortions, it'll just make them less safe. Hard to argue that cruelty isn't the point. Expand And Thomas gave the game away, they are going after more rights.
Demongyz Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 On 6/24/2022 at 4:26 PM, Tiberius said: And Thomas gave the game away, they are going after more rights. Expand Except the opinion states they aren't going to even though Thomas believes it's none of the Feds business.
muppy Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 On 6/24/2022 at 3:40 PM, DRsGhost said: Odds that dementia Joe will call for calm and discourage violence? 0.0 Expand hey DR just curious: do you think such a call for no violence isn't appropriate for he to say? He needs to urge calm IMO The fringe who would do such things I really pray is small. But this is as hot a tribal issue and development as there is and you I trust know that mate. m
ALF Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 McConnell ordered by Trump to use the nuclear option to reduce Senate confirmation vote for Supreme Court Justice from 60 to 50 + VP made the SC Court partisan. 1
Demongyz Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) On 6/24/2022 at 4:32 PM, ALF said: McConnell ordered by Trump to use the nuclear option to reduce Senate confirmation vote for Supreme Court Justice from 60 to 50 + VP made the SC Court partisan. Expand What are you talking about? Harry Reid did this. Edit: I'm wrong, they did it for everything but Supreme Court, you are correct, It was Trump and McConnell. Everyone is boneheaded. Edited June 24, 2022 by Demongyz
Demongyz Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZcZIMhjD0k Here you go.
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 One wonders how far this court will go. What can stop them from just overturning every single law Republicans don't like. If Dems try and pack the court, the court could rule it unconstitutional. This could be another form of coup. Ginni Thomas would be on board
Big Blitz Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 On 6/24/2022 at 4:32 PM, ALF said: McConnell ordered by Trump to use the nuclear option to reduce Senate confirmation vote for Supreme Court Justice from 60 to 50 + VP made the SC Court partisan. Expand No - Harry Reid did that. https://rollcall.com/2020/10/15/if-you-dont-like-the-supreme-court-blame-harry-reid/ Because they thought there would be a D president forever......and Ds love one thing and it isn't the voters. It's power. 1
Demongyz Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 On 6/24/2022 at 4:45 PM, Tiberius said: One wonders how far this court will go. What can stop them from just overturning every single law Republicans don't like. If Dems try and pack the court, the court could rule it unconstitutional. This could be another form of coup. Ginni Thomas would be on board Expand This wouldn't be so bad for states to be able to do what they want. I don't know why New York and California should tell people how to live in South Dakota. 1
Demongyz Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) On 6/24/2022 at 4:46 PM, Big Blitz said: No - Harry Reid did that. https://rollcall.com/2020/10/15/if-you-dont-like-the-supreme-court-blame-harry-reid/ Because they thought there would be a D president forever......and Ds love one thing and it isn't the voters. It's power. Expand Harry Reid did this for everything but Supreme Court, then McConnel and Trump expanded it to Supreme court in 2017 according to this article. https://marketrealist.com/p/can-you-filibuster-a-supreme-court-nomination/ Edited June 24, 2022 by Demongyz
ChiGoose Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 On 6/24/2022 at 4:47 PM, Demongyz said: This wouldn't be so bad for states to be able to do what they want. I don't know why New York and California should tell people how to live in South Dakota. Expand Well for one, because one would hope that women would have access to proper healthcare regardless of which state they were in. And for another, states like mine are now going to have to provide services to people from other states, in effect subsidizing them. Decisions in some states can have impacts on people in other states.
Nextmanup Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 On 6/24/2022 at 2:47 PM, ChiGoose said: Thank god I live in Illinois. This is going to be so awful for so many people. Expand The people put Trump in office as part of an effort to "blow things up" are going to find out that things aren't so good when they are blown up. Who will this hit the hardest? The lowest on the socio-economic ladder, just like everything in America. This country is nothing but an exercise in social Darwinism.
Big Blitz Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 On 6/24/2022 at 4:53 PM, Demongyz said: Harry Reid did this for everything but Supreme Court, then McConnel and Trump expanded it to Supreme court in 2017 according to this article. https://marketrealist.com/p/can-you-filibuster-a-supreme-court-nomination/ Expand Missing my point. Reid's initial actions despite being warned this would happen he did it anyway. 1
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