BillsFanNC Posted September 16 Posted September 16 52 minutes ago, teef said: anti-american views are popular at colleges? so kids that go to college are being taught to hate their country? do you think young adults are going into college loving their country, but leave angry because of what someone taught them? For a not insignificant amount of young people yes this is exactly what happens.
teef Posted September 16 Posted September 16 2 minutes ago, Lost said: It's not assuming. Have you not seen the 1000's of videos going around of college professors or other educators celebrating the murder of Charlie Kirk. Surely their putting their "anti-fascist" tirades into their teachings as well. There's plenty of video evidence of that as well. When 95% of college professors and administrators belong to one party you know there's going to be some biased influence in the classrooms. yes...the internet has given all sorts of #######s a voice. it happens on all sides, but show me where 95% of college profs and admins are on one side? again...do you think colleges are cranking out anti-american students as mentioned above? Just now, BillsFanNC said: For a not insignificant amount of young people yes this is exactly what happens. based on what? your feeds? guess what...most good kids go to college for their careers and to have fun. not everyone has a hardened view on politics like this forum does.
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted September 16 Posted September 16 1 minute ago, teef said: i think it depends on the school. not all colleges are what your social media feeds show you. let me ask you a question...if you had a kid, would you let them go to college if they wanted, or would you refuse if fear of them turning radicalized? and for what it's worth, this was a discussion about colleges turning students anti-american. that bull####. Yes I would allow my kid to go to school. And those same colleges can provide an environment which can foster anti American viewpoints. It's not that controversial of an opinion. You can think they don't. Again, your opinion.
BillsFanNC Posted September 16 Posted September 16 (edited) 8 minutes ago, teef said: yes...the internet has given all sorts of #######s a voice. it happens on all sides, but show me where 95% of college profs and admins are on one side? again...do you think colleges are cranking out anti-american students as mentioned above? based on what? your feeds? guess what...most good kids go to college for their careers and to have fun. not everyone has a hardened view on politics like this forum does. So when I said a not insignificant amount of kids, where in your feed did you manage to interpret that to mean anything close to "most" or "everyone"? Edited September 16 by BillsFanNC
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted September 16 Posted September 16 19 minutes ago, JFKjr said: One thing this generation has not learned is the value of driving a beater until you can afford a better car. I can well afford a nice new vehicle but I'm having trouble giving up my 2009 SUV because it runs good. Just sank $150 into it to keep it running. That's probably a lot less than Tsolakis' car payment. All these people need to take a class in Financial Common Sense. For some, we've become a society that focuses on quick upgrades, early obsolescence and a need for near immediate gratification. I've certainly made those mistakes in the past, but at some point, reality should sink in. I'm aware of a few scenarios where student loan debt just about crushed the parents over a couple decades, with the child/children following the same path. Agreed on financial common sense, and btw, the entire credit modeling scenario is....interesting. It's absolutely imperative that people understand how it works.
teef Posted September 16 Posted September 16 2 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Yes I would allow my kid to go to school. And those same colleges can provide an environment which can foster anti American viewpoints. It's not that controversial of an opinion. You can think they don't. Again, your opinion. do i think kids can become liberal/radical in college...yes. do i think the university system in this country is pushing out anti-american citizens...no i don't. at all. 5 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: So when I said a not insignificant amount of kids, where in your feed did you manage to interpret that to mean anything close to "most" or "everyone"? sorry man...i misread. 1
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted September 16 Posted September 16 Just now, teef said: do i think kids can become liberal/radical in college...yes. do i think the university system in this country is pushing out anti-american citizens...no i don't. at all. How can 1 exist without number 2?
Lost Posted September 16 Posted September 16 12 minutes ago, teef said: yes...the internet has given all sorts of #######s a voice. it happens on all sides, but show me where 95% of college profs and admins are on one side? Sure, here you go. https://www.aei.org/articles/partisan-professors/ 1 hour ago, teef said: the problem with education is the quickly rising costs, and especially the interest rates. they can range from 8% on the low end, and i've seen some that are 15% and over. that's criminal. i ended up with 120k in debt, but consolidated at 2.5%. it's reasonable. Rising college cost is probably mostly abundantly the result of administrative bloat over the last 15-20 years.
Roundybout Posted September 16 Posted September 16 19 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Yes I would allow my kid to go to school. And those same colleges can provide an environment which can foster anti American viewpoints. It's not that controversial of an opinion. You can think they don't. Again, your opinion. what is an “anti-american” viewpoint to you?
Lost Posted September 16 Posted September 16 2 minutes ago, Roundybout said: what is an “anti-american” viewpoint to you? Instead of teaching students to look for the good in others, colleges are amplifying victim culture. Faculty encourage students to engage in some sort of activism which in itself is finding issue you are passionate about and faulting anyone who disagrees with your position. Abortion, Palestine, etc. These are highly subjective social issues that will be debated til the end of time and often have no "right" or "wrong" position but you wouldn't know that if you walked onto many college campuses today. 1
JDHillFan Posted September 16 Posted September 16 49 minutes ago, teef said: and you assume it's the school and not his internet/social media feeds? who exactly does a school radicalize somone? colleges have always been a place of protest and a more liberal environment. this is in no way a new idea. do you really think college kids are as wrapped up in politics like you guys are? they're not. other than a small handful, they really aren't. college kids are inherently selfish in nature. it's the age and place. most kids just want to work towards their future, party and hook up. that's it. the idea that someone who enters college with a set of beliefs are going to be totally shifted in the other direction is nonsense. can it happen? of course, but this idea that universities are creating the army of liberals is just absurd. it's a scare tactic for clicks. It’s got nothing to do with being wrapped up in politics. You are pretending that 18yo’s with no meaningful life experience show up on campus already firm in their beliefs and cannot be swayed by the constant messaging of those in charge of the learning environment. That’s just strange. 1
teef Posted September 16 Posted September 16 28 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: How can 1 exist without number 2? quite easily. 5 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: It’s got nothing to do with being wrapped up in politics. You are pretending that 18yo’s with no meaningful life experience show up on campus already firm in their beliefs and cannot be swayed by the constant messaging of those in charge of the learning environment. That’s just strange. so all kids that go to college are a blank slate that can be molded into anything the college tells them without their own opinions getting the way. i get what people have been saying about colleges, but no...this is no institution that takes pride or tries to produce anti-americans. just like high school kids needs to be scared of speaking their beliefs. nonsense fear tactics. i wonder how many kids are walking out of clarkson this year as an ant-american, or geneseo, or buffalo.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 16 Posted September 16 49 minutes ago, Lost said: It's not assuming. Have you not seen the 1000's of videos going around of college professors or other educators celebrating the murder of Charlie Kirk. Surely their putting their "anti-fascist" tirades into their teachings as well. There's plenty of video evidence of that as well. When 95% of college professors and administrators belong to one party you know there's going to be some biased influence in the classrooms. Well, that’s because smart people don’t like trump. Even he admits that.
JFKjr Posted September 16 Posted September 16 Just now, Joe Ferguson forever said: Well, that’s because smart people don’t like trump. Even he admits that. Are you eligible for another booster? Or too young for that? 1
Lost Posted September 16 Posted September 16 5 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Well, that’s because smart people don’t like trump. Even he admits that. World record highest IQ holder might disagree with you.
JDHillFan Posted September 16 Posted September 16 10 minutes ago, teef said: quite easily. so all kids that go to college are a blank slate that can be molded into anything the college tells them without their own opinions getting the way. i get what people have been saying about colleges, but no...this is no institution that takes pride or tries to produce anti-americans. just like high school kids needs to be scared of speaking their beliefs. nonsense fear tactics. i wonder how many kids are walking out of clarkson this year as an ant-american, or geneseo, or buffalo. I agree with you regarding the “anti-American” part. It’s hyperbole in my estimation. Your belief that 18yo’s who don’t know sh*t about life show up on campus and are somehow immune to the messaging they get from faculty that is OVERWHELMINGLY liberal, is nonsense. 1 1 2
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted September 16 Posted September 16 13 minutes ago, teef said: quite easily. so all kids that go to college are a blank slate that can be molded into anything the college tells them without their own opinions getting the way. i get what people have been saying about colleges, but no...this is no institution that takes pride or tries to produce anti-americans. just like high school kids needs to be scared of speaking their beliefs. nonsense fear tactics. i wonder how many kids are walking out of clarkson this year as an ant-american, or geneseo, or buffalo. If it's so easy, please elaborate.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 16 Posted September 16 2 minutes ago, Lost said: World record highest IQ holder might disagree with you. Then he disagrees with trump. 10 minutes ago, JFKjr said: Are you eligible for another booster? Or too young for that? Everyone is eligible. Now the question is, will insurance pay for it. In many cases it won’t which is stupid. I’ll get it regardless.
SectionC3 Posted September 16 Posted September 16 8 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: I agree with you regarding the “anti-American” part. It’s hyperbole in my estimation. Your belief that 18yo’s who don’t know sh*t about life show up on campus and are somehow immune to the messaging they get from faculty that is OVERWHELMINGLY liberal, is nonsense. Did they get the same from schlock (prove me wrong, based on the assumption that I'm right) from people like Charlie Kirk?
Lost Posted September 16 Posted September 16 10 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: I agree with you regarding the “anti-American” part. It’s hyperbole in my estimation. Your belief that 18yo’s who don’t know sh*t about life show up on campus and are somehow immune to the messaging they get from faculty that is OVERWHELMINGLY liberal, is nonsense. Just one of many examples to reinforce this point. It's not just the faculty but the people writing the curriculum.
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