Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 16 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: What's not easily replaceable about McKenzie is his speed and quickness. He's that Fast Guy who has shown he can actually develop into a football player, though it took him a couple years. He can block now, surprisingly well for a small guy. He can run actual routes and make moves now. He's starting to be used out of the backfield. But he still has flaws, and maybe they're fatal flaws to him taking the next step. Ball security is the biggy. What show is this? I'd like to listen, do you have a linky or point me at where to find it online? Its the one with Sal and sneaky Joe on WGR form 10 -12 am ,probably find it on Audacy or WGR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 7 hours ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: Is this the Tim Tindale game? I had a good ol' time watching that game with my family as a kiddo. Yes, it was, thank you! I felt as if he he nevr had a decent run before then. That was a very strange game. Jerry Ostroski even threw a couple of successful blocks! It was as if the Dolphins were having a job action of sorts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvlevydraftdaygenius Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 If Frazier comes back than kiss the season away next year. And his 2 fans that support cannot understand that this clown has been running the same formations the last 5 years. I feel bad for Josh that he has to wait for Frazier to retire to get a Super Bowl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 10 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Hill was a 5th rounder because he'd been kicked off the OSU team for allegedly punching his pregnant girlfriend in the stomach and face and choking her. He was given probation and directed to take anger management and counseling classes. You don't typically find a diamond that can shine that brightly in the 5th round unless there's a flaw - either a checkered past, or an injury history, or something. This caused me to go back and look the Chiefs other receivers. Kelce, third round. Hardman, second round. Pringle, undrafted free agent. So, that's three guys - Hill, Hardman, and Kelce who were highly rated by scouts, and one diamond-in-the rough. As much as I'm the guy who's always saying coaching is more important than talent, the Chiefs clearly have gone out and gotten talent to execute what the coaches envision. The Bills have invested draft capital in only three receivers - Diggs (by trading a first-round pick), Knox, and Davis. Beane always says you build your team through the draft, you plug your holes in free agency. What does that tell us about McKenzie, Beasley, and Sanders? They were acquired to plug holes, and although you certainly hope to strike gold in your free agents, it isn't likely. There are two kinds of free agents - the older ones and the younger ones. You sign the older ones because you know what you're getting, and that's what the Bills got in Beasley and Sanders. You sign the younger ones because you think you see things in them that will allow them to develop into the kind of player you want. In fact, the Bills struck gold in exactly that way with Poyer and Hyde, although, they'd already shown they could have impact before the came to Buffalo. McKenzie, however, was an experiment. Maybe he can become the guy, maybe not. Turns out, I think, not. The Chiefs already had Kelce when they drafted Mahomes, and then they took Hill in 2016. They already had the table set when they drafted Mahomes in 2017. The Bills weren't so fortunate. The Bills got their version of Hill in Diggs, but until now they've filled out their receiving corps with guys who have plugged holes more than been weapons. I know I'm talking out of both sides of my mouth here, because I've been saying that offensive philosophy and route design has limited the success those receivers, like McKenzie have had, but of course it works both ways. Daboll might very well have been more creative with a Kelce in the lineup instead of Knox, and with a Hardman instead of Beasley. I've talked myself into believing that the Bills need to invest in a wideout. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 31 minutes ago, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said: If Frazier comes back than kiss the season away next year. And his 2 fans that support cannot understand that this clown has been running the same formations the last 5 years. I feel bad for Josh that he has to wait for Frazier to retire to get a Super Bowl There's a part of me that agrees with this - I've been hoping Frazier gets a head coaching job, just like I was hoping Daboll would. But I don't think it's as bleak as you suggest. The Bills are about continuous improvement. They won't come back in 2022 with the same defense they had in 2021. They will study the defense and find things that they want to do better, and that will, I think, include an adjustment in defensive philosophy. McDermott doesn't need many more examples that his extreme prevent-defense approach late in games isn't ideal. The Chiefs game was not the first time that he's either blown a game or come darn close to blowing it because of that stuff. He will change and adapt. Remember, he came out of the Jim Johnson defensive coaching tree, along with Spagnuolo, and Johnson didn't have a conservative approach. He wanted to attack. McDermott's going to be thinking about his defense a lot this off season, and he won't forget his roots. McDermott will adjust, and because he's a good soldier, Frazier will, too. Just my hunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvlevydraftdaygenius Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 17 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: There's a part of me that agrees with this - I've been hoping Frazier gets a head coaching job, just like I was hoping Daboll would. But I don't think it's as bleak as you suggest. The Bills are about continuous improvement. They won't come back in 2022 with the same defense they had in 2021. They will study the defense and find things that they want to do better, and that will, I think, include an adjustment in defensive philosophy. McDermott doesn't need many more examples that his extreme prevent-defense approach late in games isn't ideal. The Chiefs game was not the first time that he's either blown a game or come darn close to blowing it because of that stuff. He will change and adapt. Remember, he came out of the Jim Johnson defensive coaching tree, along with Spagnuolo, and Johnson didn't have a conservative approach. He wanted to attack. McDermott's going to be thinking about his defense a lot this off season, and he won't forget his roots. McDermott will adjust, and because he's a good soldier, Frazier will, too. Just my hunch. The reason I am saying this first Eric Washington, was a very good defensive line coach in Carolina he developed guys like Hardy, Star to name a few and his defensive line always pressured the hell out of Qb’s and don’t forget when the Bills had Mike Petton the Bills sacked the Qb like 49 times leading the NFL until the last game when McDermott defense took over the top spot with 50 and a large part of that was Washington being there and now his line is a joke and I don’t blame Washington. Frazier has not had one defensive lineman in Buffalo make the Pro Bowl let alone be up for Al-Pro this is a concern when McDermott found his mark as a great defensive cordinator Frazier was not apart of his staff in Carolina the only place Frazier was at Baltimore as defensive backs coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 On 1/28/2022 at 10:31 AM, cv05 said: Nothing earth shattering but I found it interesting none the less. A few thoughts: He seemed surprised he hasn't learned anything about what broke down. He said something like "I'm usually the Adam Schefter of the team, but nothing, I don't know anything" He was (understandably) critical of the defense during the 13 seconds in a few comments You can tell he and McDermott clash - I can't imagine he's coming back next year Nothing was learned from last year. The Colts nearly knocked the Bills out. That should have been enough of a warning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 22 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Oh, is that who offered him? Can you give any more details? (also wondering how you know - again, not doubting, just asking for source) Unless the Bears offered him a multi-year contract or more guaranteed $$, I can't blame him for thinking that perhaps he'd be better off here with a chance to compete at both KR/PR and for playing time. I just remember his name linked to the Bears, he's a link https://www.bleachernation.com/bears/2021/03/19/the-bears-are-showing-an-interest-in-free-agent-receiver-isaiah-mckenzie/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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