Orlando Buffalo Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago On 5/21/2025 at 10:48 AM, LDD said: Thanks, I do live a blessed life. I didn't say any of the things that you implied in your above post. The pro-Russian propaganda on this site is overwhelming. War is a terrible thing, as this war is a terrible thing. It was initiated by Putin and Russia and it continues to be aggressively pursued by Russia. The insinuation that Ukraine can somehow "pursue peace" or "end this war" and remain a country where its citizens are safe and not at the whim of a murderous dictator is nothing but a Russian talking point. Are you a Russian? If not, why would you EVER defend its aggression against Ukraine? I thank the lord every day that our country and its military isn't run by the absolute nancies that post on this thread about how Zelensky should "back down" and end the war in Ukraine. That country is fighting for its existence. If that ever happens here, do us all a favor and just go sit down. 1 hour ago, LDD said: Show me where I stated I was against a peace accord? If there was one to be had that actually secured peace and wasn't just some lie from Russia, I would be for it. But, only on Ukraine's terms. I am for peace and against capitulation to Russian aggression. The US walked away from any sort of leadership role here and lost all credibility. Putin knows that. Anything that Putin will accept now will include capitulation to Russia and its whims. That is what I am against. There is some fervor here for Ukraine just to "accept peace at any cost". That is a joke in itself. If they accept some "deal" with the Russians in a complete position of power the Russians will simply abuse it to their advantage. Ukraine and Zelensky know this. EVERYBODY knows this! Ukraine's only hope now is a strong European Union. The US is backing out of world leadership to enrich the select few that now control our country. We'll see what how that goes. Your first comment negates your second comment. The insinuation that Ukraine can somehow "pursue peace" or "end this war" and remain a country where its citizens are safe and not at the whim of a murderous dictator is nothing but a Russian talking point. Vs Show me where I stated I was against a peace accord? As I said you are nuts, you keep making straw man arguments since no one has said "accept peace at any cost" anywhere expect your crazy mind. Continuing to chew up the young men of their country is not a viable long term solution. Ukraine at the start of the war had less than 7 million men from 18-39 and they estimate over a million dead or injured, they will quickly run out of able bodied men if nothing changes.
LDD Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 30 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: Your first comment negates your second comment. The insinuation that Ukraine can somehow "pursue peace" or "end this war" and remain a country where its citizens are safe and not at the whim of a murderous dictator is nothing but a Russian talking point. Vs Show me where I stated I was against a peace accord? As I said you are nuts, you keep making straw man arguments since no one has said "accept peace at any cost" anywhere expect your crazy mind. Continuing to chew up the young men of their country is not a viable long term solution. Ukraine at the start of the war had less than 7 million men from 18-39 and they estimate over a million dead or injured, they will quickly run out of able bodied men if nothing changes. Right, so I never said “I” was against peace and I’m not…thanks. Ukraine also has no power to “end” the war since they are simply DEFENDING themselves. You and the Russians want them to capitulate. Thus, your Russian talking points. Why don’t you care about the young Russians being fed to the meat grinder? I will continue to support Ukraine and their right to defend themselves and their country. I want nothing more than peace that lasts ON UKRAINE’s TERMS. You? You can continue to be on the wrong side of history with your Putin approved talking points. Btw…what is your f-in point? I don’t want try to weed it out of your discussion and risk creating another straw dawg… 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 3 hours ago, LDD said: Right, so I never said “I” was against peace and I’m not…thanks. Ukraine also has no power to “end” the war since they are simply DEFENDING themselves. You and the Russians want them to capitulate. Thus, your Russian talking points. Why don’t you care about the young Russians being fed to the meat grinder? I will continue to support Ukraine and their right to defend themselves and their country. I want nothing more than peace that lasts ON UKRAINE’s TERMS. You? You can continue to be on the wrong side of history with your Putin approved talking points. Btw…what is your f-in point? I don’t want try to weed it out of your discussion and risk creating another straw dawg… I think you use words in manners very different than the dictionary describes them. I never stated they should capitulate, that is not necessary to have a peace accord. But there also will not be peace only on UKRAINE TERMS, because as you seem to agree Putin is not going to look week in this battle so it will have to have some give and take. As for the Russian young men, I also feel bad for them but their leader started it so less sympathy. As for "the wrong side of history", I am not sure how recognizing the math that the Ukraine is losing too many people is bad. I have stated repeatedly that Putin is worse but Zelynskyy is not an innocent bystander, he needs to figure out a way to end the conflict. If the war goes on for 8 more years the Ukraine will be crippled, Russia will have the whole territory back, and another 2 million will die.
LDD Posted 45 minutes ago Posted 45 minutes ago 20 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: I think you use words in manners very different than the dictionary describes them. I never stated they should capitulate, that is not necessary to have a peace accord. But there also will not be peace only on UKRAINE TERMS, because as you seem to agree Putin is not going to look week in this battle so it will have to have some give and take. As for the Russian young men, I also feel bad for them but their leader started it so less sympathy. As for "the wrong side of history", I am not sure how recognizing the math that the Ukraine is losing too many people is bad. I have stated repeatedly that Putin is worse but Zelynskyy is not an innocent bystander, he needs to figure out a way to end the conflict. If the war goes on for 8 more years the Ukraine will be crippled, Russia will have the whole territory back, and another 2 million will die. You either support Ukraine or you support Russia in this matter. It is a clear time because bullets are flying and people are dying. Russia continues to attack Ukranian civilians at will and to disregard basics of the Geneva Conventions. Russia's leaders commit human rights violations daily at home and now they commit war crimes abroad, align themselves with the worst dictatorships in the world, and people like you want to defend them. It is astounding. The US has abdicated a leadership role in this matter because Putin knows just how to settle Donald, stroke his ego. If something good comes of this it is that since we have seemingly abandoned the Ukranian situation, they are picking up their own slack. We'll see how bad the crying gets when they start to act independently because they know we are incapable of serious foreign policy relations at this time. We can agree to disagree here.
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