H.R. 1 And The Fight For Voting Rights -- We The People!

[BillStime]

29 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Nearly 75,000,000 votes with packed rallies during a pandemic?   Trump Train caravans for miles?  You consider that dying?  

 

Why are red states cracking down on voting rights? Why Jim?

[B-Man]

1 minute ago, BillStime said:

 

Why are red states cracking down on voting rights? Why Jim?

 

They aren't.

 

Any attempt to repair the broken system is met with fake cries of suppression................but you knew that.

 

and blue states are holding the line too

 

[Chef Jim]

1 minute ago, BillStime said:

 

Why are red states cracking down on voting rights? Why Jim?

 

They're not.  All US citizens over the age of 18 have the right to vote.

 

Next............

[BillStime]

34 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Racist Bill??  What makes it racist?  

 

How does forbidding the distribution of water to people make voting more secure?  

 

How does making drop boxes less available make voting less secure?

 

The law removes the ELECTED Secretary of State as head of the state Elections Commission and replaces him/her with an APPOINTEE of the (Republican) legislature. Eliminating a check/balance needed to ensure a democracy.

 

The law also allows the state Elections Commission to take over any jurisdiction's ballot counting. This is aimed at the Democratic strongholds of Fulton and DeKalb Counties. Another check gone. 

 

Why are these measures even necessary given that the voting was independently determined to have been basically free of voter fraud or other issues.  

 

This bill is unnecessary.  It was passed to make voting less accessible and more difficult to people who have less time and opportunity to vote.  It is designed for one purpose, to steal the next election from the majority in favor of a minority of voters.  

 

Republican government means, “of the people,” not the powerful.

 

[B-Man]

2 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

How does forbidding the distribution of water to people make voting more secure?  

 

 

 

No need to read past the first line.

 

BillZtime KNOWS that this is NOT true, refuted in every newspaper, but he leads off his spin with it.

[BillStime]

Just now, B-Man said:

 

 

No need to read past the first line.

 

BillZtime KNOWS that this is NOT true, refuted in every newspaper, but he leads off his spin with it.

 

You can't handle the truth anyhow.

 

[Chef Jim]

1 minute ago, BillStime said:

 

How does forbidding the distribution of water to people make voting more secure?  

 

How does making drop boxes less available make voting less secure?  

 

The law removes the ELECTED Secretary of State as head of the state Elections Commission and replaces him/her with an APPOINTEE of the (Republican) legislature. Eliminating a check/balance needed to ensure a democracy.  HOW RACIST!!

 

The law also allows the state Elections Commission to take over any jurisdiction's ballot counting. This is aimed at the Democratic strongholds of Fulton and DeKalb Counties. Another check gone.  \

 

Why are these measures even necessary given that the voting was independently determined to have been basically free of voter fraud or other issues.  

 

This bill is unnecessary.  It was passed to make voting less accessible and more difficult to people who have less time and opportunity to vote.  It is designed for one purpose, to steal the next election from the majority in favor of a minority of voters.  

 

Republican government means, “of the people,” not the powerful.

 

 

Ok now, how do each of these things effect people of different races differently?  

[B-Man]

3 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

You can't handle the truth anyhow.

 

 

 

You lie.

 

And then you give a weak ass response.

 

so typical.

 

 

[BillStime]

2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Ok now, how do each of these things effect people of different races differently?  

 

How? Because the data shows that nonwhite Georgia voters have to wait in line for hours to vote. Why? Too few polling sites.

6 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

You lie.

 

And then you give a weak ass response.

 

so typical.

 

 

 

HA! You "stopped" reading past the first line. Talk about a weak asssss response.

 

And what's a lie?

 

Go back to your safe place and help Ann out. 

[Chef Jim]

2 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

How? Because the data shows that nonwhite Georgia voters have to wait in line for hours to vote. Why? Too few polling sites.

 

And how is this racist? Explain why you feel they POC are being targeted by their wait times.  

 

And are you really saying white voters in Georgia don't have to wait in lines for hours?  

[BillStime]

1 minute ago, Chef Jim said:

 

And how is this racist? Explain why you feel they POC are being targeted by their wait times.  

 

And are you really saying white voters in Georgia don't have to wait in lines for hours?  

 

Here we go again... rabbit hole time.

 

I've answered your questions - now you answer mine:

• How does forbidding the distribution of water to people make voting more secure?  
• How does making drop boxes less available make voting less secure?  

[B-Man]

9 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

How? Because the data shows that nonwhite Georgia voters have to wait in line for hours to vote. Why? Too few polling sites.

 

HA! You "stopped" reading past the first line. Talk about a weak asssss response.

 

And what's a lie?

 

 

 

You always make it so easy.

 

Look back, I clearly said to the other posters that there was "no need" for them to read past the first line but I had.

 

AND the LIE is the first line about water, but again you KNOW that. 😂

 

 

I also like your incredibly racist implication that there are NonWhite voting lines ...............what a hoot.

 

Sure some areas are majority POC, but 100% ?  You keep digging that racist hole son.

 

 

[Chef Jim]

Just now, BillStime said:

 

Here we go again... rabbit hole time.

 

I've answered your questions - now you answer mine:

• How does forbidding the distribution of water to people make voting more secure?  
• How does making drop boxes less available make voting less secure?  

 

One man's rabbit hole is another man's "I've got nuthin'"  If you can't defend your positions say so.  

 

Your questions.  

• The bill doesn't not single out water.  It includes a lot of items that could influence a voter.  Isn't that a good thing in your mind.  But for some reason you are all are focusing on water.  Why is that?
• My understanding was the change in drop boxes was to make it a uniform system.  Uniformity is good in my mind.  So is one box per 100,000 voters or one per voting location going to make it easier? To vote or have the votes counted?  Not sure but it's not racists.  

[Tiberius]

Just now, Chef Jim said:

 

One man's rabbit hole is another man's "I've got nuthin'"  If you can't defend your positions say so.  

 

Your questions.  

• The bill doesn't not single out water.  It includes a lot of items that could influence a voter.  Isn't that a good thing in your mind.  But for some reason you are all are focusing on water.  Why is that?
• My understanding was the change in drop boxes was to make it a uniform system.  Uniformity is good in my mind.  So is one box per 100,000 voters or one per voting location going to make it easier? To vote or have the votes counted?  Not sure but it's not racists.  

Poor answers. Doesn't single out water? Only an idiot would answer that way! 

Uniformity, just for uniformity sake? Stupid. You are still an idiot 

[BillStime]

3 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

One man's rabbit hole is another man's "I've got nuthin'"  If you can't defend your positions say so.  

 

Your questions.  

• The bill doesn't not single out water.  It includes a lot of items that could influence a voter.  Isn't that a good thing in your mind.  But for some reason you are all are focusing on water.  Why is that?
• My understanding was the change in drop boxes was to make it a uniform system.  Uniformity is good in my mind.  So is one box per 100,000 voters or one per voting location going to make it easier? To vote or have the votes counted?  Not sure but it's not racists.  

 

You did not answer my question. How does dictating who and where water can be provided MAKE ELECTIONS MORE SECURE?

10 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

You always make it so easy.

 

Look back, I clearly said to the other posters that there was "no need" for them to read past the first line but I had.

 

AND the LIE is the first line about water, but again you KNOW that. 😂

 

 

I also like your incredibly racist implication that there are NonWhite voting lines ...............what a hoot.

 

Sure some areas are majority POC, but 100% ?  You keep digging that racist hole son.

 

 

 

Please stop projecting.

[B-Man]

1 minute ago, BillStime said:

 

You did not answer my question. How does dictating who and where water can be provided MAKE ELECTIONS MORE SECURE?

 

It is basic.

 

Probably why you cannot grasp it.

 

Giving out water (food, cigarettes, money, any compensation) to someone in line to influence their vote has ALWAYS been illegal.

 

Water can be brought to the line by the voter, or donated water given to the person in line by someone in authority.   

 

 

These rules hold for ALL lines, not just your invented "non-Whites" lines 

 

It can't be simpler, but sadly, I know that you (and Tibs) won't understand.

 

 

 

[Chef Jim]

6 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Poor answers. Doesn't single out water? Only an idiot would answer that way! 

Uniformity, just for uniformity sake? Stupid. You are still an idiot 

 

Why default to name calling?   Have you read the part of the Bill that talks about drinks**?  Would you be ok if the NRA showed up and handed out sandwiches and bottled water to people in line?  How about it they gave out t-shirts, hats, $20 bills?  Would you be good with that? You do know that is what that part of the Bill states.   Also you do know that the Bill states in polling places where wait times exceeded one hour are now REQUIRED to hire more staff? 

 

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(a) No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any

person distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give,

 or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and

drink, 

 

Please explain what is wrong with this.  

10 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

You did not answer my question. How does dictating who and where water can be provided MAKE ELECTIONS MORE SECURE?

 

 

 

Reduces undue influence of voters in line.  Why the hell is this so hard for you all to get.  It's not about WATER.  It's about influencing votes.  Good lord!!

 

So ok.  I'm going down to ATL during the midterms.  Brining all my Trumpers and NRA and Right to Lifer friends and were handing out all sorts of *****.  I'll just point at you guys and say "hey, they told me it was cool."  

[Tiberius]

2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Why default to name calling?   Have you read the part of the Bill that talks about drinks**?  Would you be ok if the NRA showed up and handed out sandwiches and bottled water to people in line?  How about it they gave out t-shirts, hats, $20 bills?  Would you be good with that? You do know that is what that part of the Bill states.   Also you do know that the Bill states in polling places where wait times exceeded one hour are now REQUIRED to hire more staff? 

 

** 

(a) No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any

person distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give,

 or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and

drink, 

 

Please explain what is wrong with this.  

It makes it illegal to give someone water, it sure looks like. 

 

Oh damn, I'm sorry, that's the point you don't want to cover. But, ya, it does do that 

[Chef Jim]

3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

It makes it illegal to give someone water, it sure looks like. 

 

Oh damn, I'm sorry, that's the point you don't want to cover. But, ya, it does do that 

 

Yup it makes it illegal to give them water and lots of other things.  Why focus on the water?  Give me a good reason why all of you are fixated on water?  It's because you THINK it's a great way to make your point. OMG LOOK.  THEY'RE DENYING THAT POC A SIMPLE DRINK OF WATER!!  Sorry anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together know that is a really bad argument.  

Edited April 1, 2021 by Chef Jim

[BillStime]

1 minute ago, B-Man said:

 

It is basic.

 

Probably why you cannot grasp it.

 

Giving out water (food, cigarettes, money, any compensation) to someone in line to influence their vote has ALWAYS been illegal.

 

Water can be brought to the line by the voter, or donated water given to the person in line by someone in authority.   

 

 

These rules hold for ALL lines, not just your invented "non-Whites" lines 

 

It can't be simpler, but sadly, I know that you (and Tibs) won't understand.

 

 

 

 

Exactly - it has nothing to do with election security.  Thanks!

 

You can sugar coat your answer all you want but this "law" screams Jim Crow and targeted towards those who have to wait in extremely long lines just to vote - and you know it.