SectionC3 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 https://sports.yahoo.com/charles-barkley-breonna-taylor-george-floyd-backlash-comments-nba-on-tnt-051020472.html Chuck is spot on here. The Breonna Taylor death is a horrible tragedy. It’s the product of gross, and perhaps even criminal, negligence. It speaks to a need to scale way back on no-knock warrants. It probably also hints at a heightened (and unwarranted) sense of fear in some law enforcement officers during encounters with African Americans. But it is not a murder. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFT Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Discussion: You didn’t read the context of what either of these men said. You only pushed it towards your narrative. Charles Barkley, Shaquille O'Neil draw backlash for pushing back on Breonna Taylor outrage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: https://sports.yahoo.com/charles-barkley-breonna-taylor-george-floyd-backlash-comments-nba-on-tnt-051020472.html Chuck is spot on here. The Breonna Taylor death is a horrible tragedy. It’s the product of gross, and perhaps even criminal, negligence. It speaks to a need to scale way back on no-knock warrants. It probably also hints at a heightened (and unwarranted) sense of fear in some law enforcement officers during encounters with African Americans. But it is not a murder. Discuss. I think the war on drugs is the biggest issue. They need to figure that out. Prohibition isn’t working and it’s really a disaster to poor communities that get punished far more than anyone else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SectionC3 Posted September 25, 2020 Author Share Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, DFT said: Discussion: You didn’t read the context of what either of these men said. You only pushed it towards your narrative. Charles Barkley, Shaquille O'Neil draw backlash for pushing back on Breonna Taylor outrage Hoax. I read what Chuck said. And he’s right. You’re free to bring the context point into the discussion, but it’s irrelevant to the issue whether the disgraceful series of events that catalyzed Taylor’s death supports a murder or manslaughter charge. Carry on. 6 minutes ago, Tiberius said: I think the war on drugs is the biggest issue. They need to figure that out. Prohibition isn’t working and it’s really a disaster to poor communities that get punished far more than anyone else. That’s a really good point. I assume, based on your comment, that the warrant in question was based on probable cause to believe that a drug offense had been committed. And you’re right about the disparate treatment of poor communities; over policing is a problem, absence of community policing is a problem, and sentencing structure with respect to drug convictions is a problem as well. The Taylor issue in many ways is a microcosm of a number of deep societal problems. And for that reason I absolutely understand why so many people are rightfully pissed off about what happened. It’s too bad our President is out to lunch on issues like this one. We would be in a much better place with an empathetic, intelligent, caring leader. Edited September 25, 2020 by SectionC3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 This is refreshing. Finally someone in the media not pushing the "they were at the wrong house, she was murdered while sleeping" BS. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 hour ago, SectionC3 said: https://sports.yahoo.com/charles-barkley-breonna-taylor-george-floyd-backlash-comments-nba-on-tnt-051020472.html Chuck is spot on here. The Breonna Taylor death is a horrible tragedy. It’s the product of gross, and perhaps even criminal, negligence. It speaks to a need to scale way back on no-knock warrants. It probably also hints at a heightened (and unwarranted) sense of fear in some law enforcement officers during encounters with African Americans. But it is not a murder. Discuss. police folllowed your advice knocked and announced before entering got shot for their trouble 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, Process said: This is refreshing. Finally someone in the media not pushing the "they were at the wrong house, she was murdered while sleeping" BS. So he was standing his ground against intruders to his place. Stand your ground, home is your castle...I can see the opposite reaction is the people were different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So he was standing his ground against intruders to his place. Stand your ground, home is your castle...I can see the opposite reaction is the people were different I have no problem with people questioning the need for a warrant in this case, or the tactics used. I would actually agree that a no knock warrant (the cops knocked) at 1am for a drug case is absurd, and the outcome could have been anticipated. If people want to push for a change in the law that's fine. But the bottom line is the cops were doing their job. And anyone that calls for them to be arrested or charged with murder is, plain and simple, a ****ing idiot. Also lol at this case having anything to do with race. If it was a white person that shot at the cops they wouldn't have shot back? BLM and anyone who supports it = idiot terrorist or both Edited September 25, 2020 by Process 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Gotta love the libs. All over "big government good" until reality shoots someone in the face 7 times. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted September 25, 2020 Author Share Posted September 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, spartacus said: police folllowed your advice knocked and announced before entering got shot for their trouble Their trouble included raiding the wrong home. So the shooting of the police officer that you have described is equally as sad as the shooting of Taylor, and undoubtedly was justified. 1 minute ago, Process said: I have no problem with people questioning the need for a warrant in this case, or the tactics used. I would actually agree that a no knock warrant (the cops knocked) at 1am for a drug case is absurd, and the outcome could have been anticipated. If people want to push for a change in the law that's fine. But the bottom line is the cops were doing their job. And anyone that calls for them to be arrested or charged with murder is, plain and simple, a ****ing idiot. 1a is a big issue on the warrant. Usually these things are done at 6a around here, if I understand correctly. I appreciate there can be situations in which a 1a entry might be appropriate, but I’m not aware of whether this is one of those situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 hour ago, SectionC3 said: https://sports.yahoo.com/charles-barkley-breonna-taylor-george-floyd-backlash-comments-nba-on-tnt-051020472.html Chuck is spot on here. The Breonna Taylor death is a horrible tragedy. It’s the product of gross, and perhaps even criminal, negligence. It speaks to a need to scale way back on no-knock warrants. It probably also hints at a heightened (and unwarranted) sense of fear in some law enforcement officers during encounters with African Americans. But it is not a murder. Discuss. The police knocked apparently, so Sir Charles seems wrong on that. According to KY AG the police knocked, announced, they entered, they were shot at, they shot back. Now it's possible that Breonna and her boyfriend didn't hear the knock and/or the voice identifying as police. That could have led to the boyfriend shooting for what he/they thought was a home invasion. If not he shot at police knowingly. I don't think we know which yet. It is terrible that this happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, Process said: I have no problem with people questioning the need for a warrant in this case, or the tactics used. I would actually agree that a no knock warrant (the cops knocked) at 1am for a drug case is absurd, and the outcome could have been anticipated. If people want to push for a change in the law that's fine. But the bottom line is the cops were doing their job. And anyone that calls for them to be arrested or charged with murder is, plain and simple, a ****ing idiot. Also lol at this case having anything to do with race. If it was a white person that shot at the cops they wouldn't have shot back? BLM and anyone who supports it = idiot terrorist or both It's not necassarily the cops fault, the system needs changed for sure. 12 minutes ago, Alaska Darin said: Gotta love the libs. All over "big government good" until reality shoots someone in the face 7 times. Nothing is good or bad that we don't make it so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 hour ago, SectionC3 said: Hoax. I read what Chuck said. And he’s right. You’re free to bring the context point into the discussion, but it’s irrelevant to the issue whether the disgraceful series of events that catalyzed Taylor’s death supports a murder or manslaughter charge. Carry on. That’s a really good point. I assume, based on your comment, that the warrant in question was based on probable cause to believe that a drug offense had been committed. And you’re right about the disparate treatment of poor communities; over policing is a problem, absence of community policing is a problem, and sentencing structure with respect to drug convictions is a problem as well. The Taylor issue in many ways is a microcosm of a number of deep societal problems. And for that reason I absolutely understand why so many people are rightfully pissed off about what happened. It’s too bad our President is out to lunch on issues like this one. We would be in a much better place with an empathetic, intelligent, caring leader. Our president is out of touch on issues like this one? You are as disingenuous as it gets. It was ***** Joe Biden who pushed the crime bill that made drugs arrests more punishable, practically on the issue of race. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted September 25, 2020 Author Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: Our president is out of touch on issues like this one? You are as disingenuous as it gets. It was ***** Joe Biden who pushed the crime bill that made drugs arrests more punishable, practically on the issue of race. Apparently you’re out of touch, too. Or you’re triGGered this morning. Or both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFT Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 C Sec and Tibs have no interest in anything but persistent attempts to get you guys fired up. They’re both obvious conservative trolls. STOP FEEDING THEM!!!! Hello, This is a friendly notice to inform you that the following post was created by a troll(s) on this forum. The creator of this post has no intentions of having an adult conversation on the topic they’re intending to create. While the content or expressions listed by said poster may reflect an actual perspective, the perspective is overshadowed by this posters history of creating topics that are meant to instigate, spam and disrupt an otherwise civilized political conversation. You can view the content against the poster’s reputation to make an informed decision for yourself (if you choose). The best way to remove said posters, spam and instigation from a forum is to not respond beyond this message. Thank you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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3rdnlng Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Apparently you’re out of touch, too. Or you’re triGGered this morning. Or both! 3rd Chair, not able to actually address the issue but able to put on full display the reasons that he has never been more than an errand boy for his bosses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Did the the shooter have/needed a gun license for his firearm? Was it a legal gun? I can't find any information if the gun was legal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: 3rd Chair, not able to actually address the issue but able to put on full display the reasons that he has never been more than an errand boy for his bosses. Who are his bosses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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