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2 minutes ago, Margarita said:

oh geez that danged brain of mine straw MAN paper tiger geesh crucify me already

 

Don't apologize! It's a great one, and a badge of honor around here. :beer: 

 

It made me guffaw out loud (not at you, but because it's a fun image). 

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3 minutes ago, Margarita said:

oh but i disagree it certainly has here.

 

Well bully for them. They really instigated a constructive dialogue by getting us to argue on our forum, didn't they?

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1 minute ago, Chef Jim said:

 

No seriously you're argument is based solely on changing the meaning of a word.  In what world is that an acceptable argument?? 

ridiculous simplification and another straw tiger....(haha) hey ask Joe Miner..words are IMPORTANT remember? 

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1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Don't apologize! It's a great one, and a badge of honor around here. :beer: 

 

It made me guffaw out loud (not at you, but because it's a fun image). 

 

I agree. I actually like it. It works. Paper Tiger is Chinese in origin and you know how us racists feel about the Chinese. 

Just now, Margarita said:

ridiculous simplification and another straw tiger....(haha) hey ask Joe Miner..words are IMPORTANT remember? 

 

How do you simplify a definition of a word? I can't believe I'm even having this conversation.  

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1 minute ago, Azalin said:

 

Well bully for them. They really instigated a constructive dialogue by getting us to argue on our forum, didn't they?

its a great question..why are we all here then...?

1 minute ago, Chef Jim said:

 

I agree. I actually like it. It works. Paper Tiger is Chinese in origin and you know how us racists feel about the Chinese. 

 

How do you simplify a definition of a word? I can't believe I'm even having this conversation.  

great lets not have it and say we did...*yawns* I cant believe you asked the question..words matter..JOE MINER

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2 minutes ago, Jaraxxus said:

 

defund

verb
 
de·fund | \ (ˌ)dē-ˈfənd
\
defunded; defunding; defunds

Definition of defund

transitive verb

: to withdraw funding from
 

That's the meaning of defund. Not what Black Lives Matter says it means.
 

 

You conservative bastards are all against CHANGE!!  We have changed the meaning of the. word dammit.  

 

Kind of like how Global Warming became Climate Change. 

2 minutes ago, Margarita said:

 

great lets not have it and say we did...*yawns* I cant believe you asked the question..words matter..JOE MINER

 

No this is not a "words matter" argument. This is a "words have meaning" argument.  Have you gotten ANYTHING correct in this forum? 

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hey JOE MINER way to add to the convo today WORDS MATTER,,thats what Il take from tiodays conversation fookin Briliant. LOL

 

oh and WORDS HAVE MEANING too,,,,,,Chef Joe.....err JIM

 

sorry folks gotta snark sometimes y'all are a great bunch. 

 

wait...do  words matter or do they have meaning..or Both....its a STRAW TIGER y'all...LOL

 

great fun.  thanks for the convo.

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3 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

You conservative bastards are all against CHANGE!!  We have changed the meaning of the. word dammit.  

 

Kind of like how Global Warming became Climate Change. 

 

No this is not a "words matter" argument. This is a "words have meaning" argument.  Have you gotten ANYTHING correct in this forum? 

 

"to withdraw funding"... does not necessarily mean "to withdraw ALL funding."

 

To use in a sentence-- Los Angeles is defunding the LAPD in the amount of $150 million dollars.  

 

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1 minute ago, Motorin' said:

 

"to withdraw funding"... does not necessarily mean "to withdraw ALL funding."

 

To use in a sentence-- Los Angeles is defunding the LAPD in the amount of $150 million dollars.  

 

 

Not you too.   Who said anything about "withdraw funding"?  The word is DEFUND.  Please define the word Defund.  

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3 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

"to withdraw funding"... does not necessarily mean "to withdraw ALL funding."

 

To use in a sentence-- Los Angeles is defunding the LAPD in the amount of $150 million dollars.  

 

no voices of reason or nuance allowed here its all or nothing didnt you know LOL....

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11 minutes ago, Margarita said:

its a great question..why are we all here then...?

 

 

It's not about us, it's about them.

 

And if they are stupid enough to think a riot is an acceptable means of creating a jumping off point to discuss how to fix anything,  they will likely have plenty of time to reflect upon their mistakes from inside a jail cell.

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Just now, Chef Jim said:

 

Not you too.   Who said anything about "withdraw funding"?  The word is DEFUND.  Please define the word Defund.  

 

As someone who appreciates word origins, in a cursory review, the first known usage of the word "defund" appears to have occurred in 1948. Like all words, someone made it up by using it. 

 

Why are you so admit that partial defunding is not a real concept? 

 

 

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21 minutes ago, Jaraxxus said:

 

defund

verb
 
de·fund | \ (ˌ)dē-ˈfənd
\
defunded; defunding; defunds

Definition of defund

transitive verb

: to withdraw funding from
 

That's the meaning of defund. Not what Black Lives Matter says it means.
 

I could buy the argument that the definition does not say to withdraw all funding from, if defund and disband weren’t being used interchangeably by the proponents of these ideas.

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9 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

de-

 prefix

Definition of de- (Entry 2 of 2)

1ado the opposite ofdeactivate
breverse ofde-emphasis
2aremove (a specified thing) fromdelouse
bremove from (a specified thing)dethrone

 

When you deemphasize black and white, you can begin to see there are shades of grey. 

2 minutes ago, Chandemonium said:

I could buy the argument that the definition does not say to withdraw all funding from, if defund and disband weren’t being used interchangeably by the proponents of these ideas.

 

And yet many proponents of disbanding want to then reconstituted police departments under community policing standards. 

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8 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

As someone who appreciates word origins, in a cursory review, the first known usage of the word "defund" appears to have occurred in 1948. Like all words, someone made it up by using it. 

 

Why are you so admit that partial defunding is not a real concept? 

A novel concept, indeed. Can you point me to the folks calling for partially defunding? Surely someone who has been calling for defunding the police has used the word partially, right?

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4 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

 

And yet many proponents of disbanding want to then reconstituted police departments under community policing standards. 

Then they should come out and say that, instead of beating around the bush and being unable to answer simple questions about who will respond to home invasions or active shooter situations. 

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