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8 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said:


They had the LONGEST.... I repeat the LONGEST active playoff drought that lasted nearly 20 years.  The Browns made the playoffs during that time.  The Bills did not.

 

2 DECADES of no playoffs - that’s not sports!  That’s incompetence.  The mathematical chances of that happened were minuscule, yet Ralph found a way to do it.  

 

Stop giving Ralph and the team a pass, they were failures.  

 

Also yes the incompetence starts with Ralph.  You said coaches and GM’s didn’t work out - who empowered them!?!?  Ralph! Do you want me to list all of the great moves he made during the drought?  There are quite a few


Good memory.... Sounds like Ralph was a good person.  

All you keep talking about it " drought drought drought"

 

Who cares anymore

 

He had plenty of accomplishments . Again you must've just started watching in like 99 lol

 

And I don't want to hear I've been watching since the Rockpile lol any old timer wouldn't treat Ralph like you are

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5 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

All you keep talking about it " drought drought drought"

 

Who cares anymore

 

He had plenty of accomplishments . Again you must've just started watching in like 99 lol

 

And I don't want to hear I've been watching since the Rockpile lol any old timer wouldn't treat Ralph like you are


Nope watching since 88.... the franchises’ best years with the team built by a HOF GM who was fired for petty reasons.

 

After that time was up.... we had the lowest period in team history.  The drought which was flat out embarrassing.  Bills fans were humiliated and “the brand was tarnished” as Russ Brandon would say.  Who tarnished the brand🤷

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8 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Yea 2 afl titles . 10 divions titles , 4 straight SBs. . countless HoF players and HoFr himself

 

60 years of bad lol the Bills WERE NOT one of the worst franchises

 

Ralph IS the 

not trying to offend anyone, I just dont think he was a good owner.

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Bigger picture, Ralph (along with the rest of the original owners) founded the AFL and helped merge with the old NFL to become what is now the current NFL.  He gave Al Davis a loan so the Raiders could survive, so without Ralph it could be argued that the current NFL may not have come into existence.  I'm not a big fan of many of the current owners as too many are rich, greedy odd balls; the founding owners had a vision and built something great, that the current owners are destroying.  So thank you Ralph for founding a team in a blue collar western NY town, keeping it there, and being instrumental to starting (arguably) the most successful professional sports league that has ever existed.

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16 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said:

Bigger picture, Ralph (along with the rest of the original owners) founded the AFL and helped merge with the old NFL to become what is now the current NFL.  He gave Al Davis a loan so the Raiders could survive, so without Ralph it could be argued that the current NFL may not have come into existence.  I'm not a big fan of many of the current owners as too many are rich, greedy odd balls; the founding owners had a vision and built something great, that the current owners are destroying.  So thank you Ralph for founding a team in a blue collar western NY town, keeping it there, and being instrumental to starting (arguably) the most successful professional sports league that has ever existed.


I would agree 100%..... but if your evaluating him and praising him as an owner you also have to take account the subpar product he put on the field for 2 decades.  

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8 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said:


I would agree 100%..... but if your evaluating him and praising him as an owner you also have to take account the subpar product he put on the field for 2 decades.  

 

Everyone else pointed that part out; Ralph was not a good owner from the point of firing Bill Polian on.  I wanted to point out that what he helped start wouldn't have happened without Ralph; a bigger picture post, if you will.

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8 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said:

 

Everyone else pointed that part out; Ralph was not a good owner from the point of firing Bill Polian on.  I wanted to point out that what he helped start wouldn't have happened without Ralph; a bigger picture post, if you will.

 

If you want to assign a grade, Ralph was FAR better as an owner than some of our posters. Ralph mattered. 

 

 

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9 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said:

 

Everyone else pointed that part out; Ralph was not a good owner from the point of firing Bill Polian on.  I wanted to point out that what he helped start wouldn't have happened without Ralph; a bigger picture post, if you will.

From Bill Polian on? Wilson was a bad owner from the 60’s forward. 

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9 hours ago, Augie said:

 

If you want to assign a grade, Ralph was FAR better as an owner than some of our posters. Ralph mattered. 

 

 

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Grading a poster?  Come on.

9 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said:

 

Everyone else pointed that part out; Ralph was not a good owner from the point of firing Bill Polian on.  I wanted to point out that what he helped start wouldn't have happened without Ralph; a bigger picture post, if you will.


Ok so like I said originally, his legacy is definitely mixed and fans such as myself are conflicted 

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Ralph Wilson is arguably one of the most important individuals in the history of the WNY region, and his impact on the NFL is underrated.   He made the city a major league sports team, and what he has done for the health care community and countless other organizations through his charitable works that live on even after his death are remarkable.  He helped save the Raiders and the AFL, he was the point person early on in negotiating television contracts for the league that helped lead the league towards the incredible revenue streams they enjoy to this day, stood up for smaller franchises to ensure that they survived and thrived.  His impact on the league in general was incalculable, and led to his HOF recognition.

 

Did the team do as well as it could have?  No.  Ralph had his faults as an owner to be sure, and towards the end of his life it was that he let Litman have too much influence.  But stomping on a man's grave on his birthday, a man who contributed so much to WNY, doesn't seem necessary.

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On 3/25/2020 at 8:16 PM, CDogg20 said:

I met Ralph once while he was walking into his box on gameday. One of the nicest men i’ve ever met. He stopped and took photos with my family. I will never have a bad word to say about the man. May he rest in peace ❤️

 

That's very cool to know a lot of people today that have money are much different, he had money but he had to earn it & build through his hard work what ever that may have been and stayed humble .

 

He always helped in the Buffalo community & i thought he & his wife really liked Buffalo as a second home but you never know how Billionaires think so it's good to here that he was still a fairly down to earth person ! 

 

RIP - Ralph and Thanks !!

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1 hour ago, Phil The Thrill said:


Grading a poster?  Come on.


Ok so like I said originally, his legacy is definitely mixed and fans such as myself are conflicted 

You can thank your freakin’ god it’s not a policy here.

 

yet..

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10 hours ago, Augie said:

 

If you want to assign a grade, Ralph was FAR better as an owner than some of our posters. Ralph mattered. 

 

 

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I do not agree with assigning grades to posters and I believe everyone should be free to voice their opinion, regardless of how unpopular it may be.  This is a message board and contains some facts and a lot of opinions, which it should.  I absolutely do not agree with some of the group think that goes on, meaning mindlessly standing behind an opinion or belief that is 'popular,' whether it be Ralph, Beane, McD, whoever.  

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2 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

Ralph Wilson is arguably one of the most important individuals in the history of the WNY region, and his impact on the NFL is underrated.   He made the city a major league sports team, and what he has done for the health care community and countless other organizations through his charitable works that live on even after his death are remarkable.  He helped save the Raiders and the AFL, he was the point person early on in negotiating television contracts for the league that helped lead the league towards the incredible revenue streams they enjoy to this day, stood up for smaller franchises to ensure that they survived and thrived.  His impact on the league in general was incalculable, and led to his HOF recognition.

 

Did the team do as well as it could have?  No.  Ralph had his faults as an owner to be sure, and towards the end of his life it was that he let Litman have too much influence.  But stomping on a man's grave on his birthday, a man who contributed so much to WNY, doesn't seem necessary.


Ok so I don’t disagree with anything you said...except the that I was “stomping on his grave.”  I simply pointed out the conflict between a a generous person to the WNY and struggling to put a winning a product on the field for decades.  People criticized me for bringing that up and even tried to refute what I said.  So I was just trying to illustrate the point that - like a lot of fans, I have a mixed view of Ralph as owner.  I’m not ready to bow down and kiss the feet of the statue outside of New Era Field

1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said:

You can thank your freakin’ god it’s not a policy here.

 

yet..


I know.... Someone might be a tough grader and give me an A- instead of the A+ that I rightfully deserve!  

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1 hour ago, Happy Gilmore said:

 

I do not agree with assigning grades to posters and I believe everyone should be free to voice their opinion, regardless of how unpopular it may be.  This is a message board and contains some facts and a lot of opinions, which it should.  I absolutely do not agree with some of the group think that goes on, meaning mindlessly standing behind an opinion or belief that is 'popular,' whether it be Ralph, Beane, McD, whoever.  

 

Sometimes it’s not so much about what you do, but how (or where) you do it.  I feel there is a time and a place for everything. This thread was started to remember him on the anniversary of his passing. I see that in a more reverent way than some others, apparently. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

Ralph Wilson is arguably one of the most important individuals in the history of the WNY region, and his impact on the NFL is underrated.   He made the city a major league sports team, and what he has done for the health care community and countless other organizations through his charitable works that live on even after his death are remarkable.  He helped save the Raiders and the AFL, he was the point person early on in negotiating television contracts for the league that helped lead the league towards the incredible revenue streams they enjoy to this day, stood up for smaller franchises to ensure that they survived and thrived.  His impact on the league in general was incalculable, and led to his HOF recognition.

 

Did the team do as well as it could have?  No.  Ralph had his faults as an owner to be sure, and towards the end of his life it was that he let Litman have too much influence.  But stomping on a man's grave on his birthday, a man who contributed so much to WNY, doesn't seem necessary.

Agree 100%. His birthday's over now though, so let the bashing resume.

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4 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

You can thank your freakin’ god it’s not a policy here.

 

yet..

DC Tom really needs to visit this forum more often.  😁

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21 hours ago, Phil The Thrill said:


Nope watching since 88.... the franchises’ best years with the team built by a HOF GM who was fired for petty reasons.

 

 

Yes I am sure you would consider it petty to say you were the son of a *****.   In fact if it is petty change your title to "*****'s son".  Polin was known for making stupid statements and that was most stupid one he could make.

5 hours ago, Phil The Thrill said:

Someone might be a tough grader and give me an A- instead of the A+ that I rightfully deserve!  

 

Talk about inflation.  A D-- grade being inflated to A-

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3 hours ago, Limeaid said:

 

Yes I am sure you would consider it petty to say you were the son of a *****.   In fact if it is petty change your title to "*****'s son".  Polin was known for making stupid statements and that was most stupid one he could make.

 

Talk about inflation.  A D-- grade being inflated to A-


Let’s see... the team that Polian built went to 2 more Super Bowls.  He made it to the NFC Championship game in Carolina a few years later.

 

Then won a Super Bowl in Indy and set the team up for success for years to come.

 

Ralph made the right choice firing Bill Polian.... for sure.  
 

Hope you enjoyed Ralph’s Drought.  Most Bills fans didn’t 

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