dubs Posted February 2, 2020 Posted February 2, 2020 This doublethink is brought to you by the Ministry of Truth - Oceania
SoCal Deek Posted February 2, 2020 Posted February 2, 2020 On 2/2/2020 at 1:41 AM, LBSeeBallLBGetBall said: I'm still more worried about what will happen if Trump refuses to accept his loss to Hillary in 2016. Expand Ha! Classic! I’ll never forget that one. Who knew at the time that we’d still be dealing with the delicious irony of that question? 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 2, 2020 Posted February 2, 2020 On 2/1/2020 at 7:39 PM, 32ABBA said: I thought "the end of America as we know it" was what they wanted? I thought the Good old USA was a terrible, racist, sexist country? Expand ...of course it is.....the world's arrogant bully needs to be taken down a few notches and moved to the middle of the pack.......irrespective of Trump, the IDEA of MAGA is detested..... 1
Kemp Posted February 2, 2020 Author Posted February 2, 2020 On 2/1/2020 at 2:58 PM, Buffalo Timmy said: While that standard is ridiculous your rant is over the top. Trump is not a dictator and the reason I voted for him is he has at no point told me to turn over my rights to the govt. Expand Through November 15, the Trump administration had filed 29 eminent domain suits tied to border-wall construction this year, up from 11 each of the past two years, according to federal court records. All but four of this year's suits were filed in Texas. Eminent domain is the right of a government to seize private land for public use, while providing compensation.
sabrecrazed Posted February 2, 2020 Posted February 2, 2020 On 2/2/2020 at 3:25 PM, Kemp said: Through November 15, the Trump administration had filed 29 eminent domain suits tied to border-wall construction this year, up from 11 each of the past two years, according to federal court records. All but four of this year's suits were filed in Texas. Eminent domain is the right of a government to seize private land for public use, while providing compensation. Expand Good....I can't think of a better use of eminent domain than border security. Also, Mexican cartels have bought a good deal of border property. So the chance is good that they are forcing the cartels to sell it back. 1 1
Kemp Posted February 2, 2020 Author Posted February 2, 2020 On 2/2/2020 at 3:31 PM, sabrecrazed said: Good....I can't think of a better use of eminent domain than border security. Also, Mexican cartels have bought a good deal of border property. So the chance is good that they are forcing the cartels to sell it back. Expand Another poster said Trump had not taken anything away from private citizens. So, the government can steal your property if they think it's a good thing. Yeah, I'm sure you would be fine with that if it was your property.
Golden Goat Posted February 2, 2020 Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) On 2/2/2020 at 3:25 PM, Kemp said: Through November 15, the Trump administration had filed 29 eminent domain suits tied to border-wall construction this year, up from 11 each of the past two years, according to federal court records. All but four of this year's suits were filed in Texas. Eminent domain is the right of a government to seize private land for public use, while providing compensation. Expand You are soooo bad at this. ? Edited February 2, 2020 by Golden Goat 1
Kemp Posted February 2, 2020 Author Posted February 2, 2020 On 2/2/2020 at 3:48 PM, Golden Goat said: You are soooo bad at this. ? Expand Yes, I should post things from people I never heard of on Twitter, instead of factual information.
Golden Goat Posted February 2, 2020 Posted February 2, 2020 On 2/2/2020 at 3:59 PM, Kemp said: Yes, I should post things from people I never heard of on Twitter, instead of factual information. Expand How about using your brain and writing your own ****? Is it really that difficult? 1
dubs Posted February 2, 2020 Posted February 2, 2020 On 2/2/2020 at 3:37 PM, Kemp said: Another poster said Trump had not taken anything away from private citizens. So, the government can steal your property if they think it's a good thing. Yeah, I'm sure you would be fine with that if it was your property. Expand So you think eminent domain is a new power seized by trump? I agree that it should only be used in extreme circumstance, but that’s a different discussion. If you’re asserting that this is something new under trump and evidence of some move to dictatorship, you’re WAY misinformed. 1
Deranged Rhino Posted February 2, 2020 Posted February 2, 2020 On 2/2/2020 at 3:59 PM, Kemp said: Yes, I should post things from people I never heard of on Twitter, instead of factual information. Expand Care to comment on the actual authoritarian/dictatorial overreach? Or nah? On 2/1/2020 at 5:10 PM, Deranged Rhino said: Funny how Kemp doesn't want to talk about the actual authoritarian overreach committed by the government... Page 82: NSA examined all queries using identifiers for "U.S. persons targeted pursuant to Sections 704 and 705(b) of FISA using the [REDACTED / X-Keyscore] tool in [REDACTED] ... from November 1, 2015 to May 1, 2016." Id. at 2-3 (footnote omitted). Based on that examination, "NSA estimates that approximately eighty-five percent of those queries, representing [REDACTED] queires conducted by approximately [REDACTED] targeted offices, were not compliant with the applicable minimization procedures." Id. at 3. Many of these non-compliant queries involved use of the same identifiers over different date ranges. Id. Even so, a non-compliance rate of 85% raises substantial questions about the propriety of using of [REDACTED / X-KEYSCORE] to query FISA data. While the government reports that it is unable to provide a reliable estimate of the number of non-compliant queries since 2012, id., there is no apparent reason to believe the November 2015-April 2016 period coincided with an unusually high error rate. (Emphasis my own) https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/icotr/51117/2016_Cert_FISC_Memo_Opin_Order_Apr_2017.pdf Horowitz reportedly finds FBI lawyer falsified FISA doc https://www.foxnews.com/politics/horowitz-finds-evidence-fbi-employee-altered-russia-probe-document FISA court slams FBI conduct in Carter Page surveillance warrant applications https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/17/politics/fisa-court-slams-fbi-conduct/index.html DOJ Determines 2 FISA Spy Warrants on Trump Campaign Adviser Were “Not Valid” https://themarketswork.com/2020/01/23/doj-determines-2-fisa-spy-warrants-on-trump-campaign-adviser-were-not-valid/ Comparing the allegations about Trump and the Ukraine to the proven crimes committed above is not something Kemp wishes to do. Because he knows one is far more dangerous of a slide towards a dictatorship than the other. And, because Kemp is a fool, he's upset about the wrong one. NPCs say the darndest things. Expand 2
dubs Posted February 2, 2020 Posted February 2, 2020 PS - your ministry of truth overlords have their space through eminent domain, most certainly NOT because of Donald trump. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Times_Building
Kemp Posted February 2, 2020 Author Posted February 2, 2020 If the 2020 elections go against Trump and he claims that the election was rigged and refuses to accept the results, will you support him in his actions? I understand that it falls into the unlikely category, but replying with a non-answer would be saying you would back him. The only answer that does not endorse a dictatorship would be to reject his assertion and agree that he must leave. On 2/2/2020 at 4:01 PM, Golden Goat said: How about using your brain and writing your own ****? Is it really that difficult? Expand I don't recall you posting something similar when DR posts literally thousands of other people's tweets. By the way, it's still true, even if it is copy and pasted. 1
Foxx Posted February 2, 2020 Posted February 2, 2020 On 2/2/2020 at 3:59 PM, Kemp said: Yes, I should post things from people I never heard of on Twitter, instead of factual information. Expand right, because CNN is factual news. 1
Deranged Rhino Posted February 2, 2020 Posted February 2, 2020 On 2/2/2020 at 4:05 PM, Kemp said: If the 2020 elections go against Trump and he claims that the election was rigged and refuses to accept the results, will you support him in his actions? Expand Like you did in 2016 you mean? Or the DNC? Or the media? Comments like this just show how stupid of a person you actually are. 3 1 1
Golden Goat Posted February 2, 2020 Posted February 2, 2020 On 2/2/2020 at 4:05 PM, Kemp said: I don't recall you posting something similar when DR posts literally thousands of other people's tweets. Expand Do you really not see the difference between attribution and plagiarism? Remarkable. 2
Foxx Posted February 2, 2020 Posted February 2, 2020 On 2/2/2020 at 4:05 PM, Kemp said: If the 2020 elections go against Trump and he claims that the election was rigged and refuses to accept the results, will you support him in his actions? I understand that it falls into the unlikely category, but replying with a non-answer would be saying you would back him. The only answer that does not endorse a dictatorship would be to reject his assertion and agree that he must leave. ... Expand i'm sorry but... have the Democrats actually accepted that they lost the '16 election yet? 2
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 2, 2020 Posted February 2, 2020 On 2/2/2020 at 4:03 PM, Deranged Rhino said: Care to comment on the actual authoritarian/dictatorial overreach? Or nah? Expand ...FACTS??...SERIOUSLY?.....you dare offer up facts?......blasphemy....... 1
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