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9 hours ago, letsgoteam said:

I loved Doug Flutie growing up, I was in 5th grade when the Bills lost to the Titans, so the perfect age for a kid to have a favorite player. 

 

I dont care what anyone says, 5th grade me (along with 31 year old me) says if Flutie would have started the Bills would have won the Super Bowl that year. I will go with that to my grave!

 

that's a 100% correct answer for cheering for Doug!!!  (the only kind I have ever read) ENJOY!!!

 

simply put, you missed the Kelly Era, for which Flutie wasn't even 2 cents on the dollar

 

up here in Toronto the Bills fans faced Flutie CFL worship in  his big success with the Argos, and i heard a million times "he was great at EVERY level except the NFL"

 

as well Flutie's motto was "I just can't get a fair break...." for which I felt he got at least 3 full and fair breaks in the NFL, most get 0 breaks at all

 

to me the NFL is about 98% of the value of the career as a whole

 

 

 

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While Doug Flutie was in Buffalo, he was the hands down best option at QB the team had. RJ was the first of the line of garbage QBs that the owners and FO paraded out for seventeen straight  years.  The whole QB controversy was on the ownerships hands, and we all know that. So what if Doug is an arrogant head strong me first guy, (Jim Kelly says hello)  ? ?? 

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7 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

While Doug Flutie was in Buffalo, he was the hands down best option at QB the team had. RJ was the first of the line of garbage QBs that the owners and FO paraded out for seventeen straight  years.  The whole QB controversy was on the ownerships hands, and we all know that. So what if Doug is an arrogant head strong me first guy, (Jim Kelly says hello)  ? ?? 

 

so here you are decades later still upset about it

 

what was the driving factor that convinced the coaching staff that RJ was the better option to win the game?

 

time to face the facts after decades?

 

 

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Flutie came in and turned around a clown show with Rob Johnson as QB that was going nowhere quick.  The Bills then ripped off a bunch of wins, took the AFC East and were a force to be reckoned with.  Unfortunately they drew the Titans and it was a matchup of the two best teams in the AFC in the wild card round - despite what the records said about the other teams in the AFC (the Bills had to climb out of a 0-3 hole with Johnson as QB and the Titans came into their own maturing that season with McNair as well).  It was inexplicable that the team chose to go with the guy that started them off with an 0-3 start and benched the guy that turned it around.  It's one of the most head scratching choices in NFL history.  And Rob Johnson actually played decent in the game - so I'm not taking that away from the team or the decision to play him - but you have got to go with the guy who got you there, was a more vocal leader and capable of pulling games out of his ass.  Maybe it wouldn't have mattered at all, but you can certainly understand Flutie's chip on his shoulder about the situation.

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26 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

When he came back to Buffalo this year to re-launch his flakes that was the first time he'd been back to the area since he played for the team!

 

When you consider the effort that so many gullible, celebrity slobbering fans invested in him you'd think he'd have been back a few times in the past 20 years.....but nope...........not til he had some more product to sell.

 

Yes there are WORSE characters in the NFL but he's about as self-centered as any of them.

And it just so happens to be the same time he’s launching a football video game.  Surprised he didn’t name it “Doug Flutie is God Football”.

 

He’s the worst

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3 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

While Doug Flutie was in Buffalo, he was the hands down best option at QB the team had. RJ was the first of the line of garbage QBs that the owners and FO paraded out for seventeen straight  years.  The whole QB controversy was on the ownerships hands, and we all know that. So what if Doug is an arrogant head strong me first guy, (Jim Kelly says hello)  ? ?? 


There’s absolutely no comparison between Kelly and Flutie.

 

None.

 

Aside from the obvious point that one was a much better QB than the other, compare how they handled themselves when they weren’t playing.

 

When Jimbo was out and had to support Frank Reich (or even Todd Collins later in his career), he did everything he could to get those guys ready to win. He even used to take Frankie out for milkshakes and pick his brain on a weekly basis.

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I didn't care much for Flutie, but I'm surprised by the strong anti-Flutie posts on here

 

he came in, did his best, razzled up a few weeks of excitement, was totally proven not to be up to snuff at the elite playoff level of the NFL and that was that.

 

 

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16 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

so here you are decades later still upset about it

 

what was the driving factor that convinced the coaching staff that RJ was the better option to win the game?

 

time to face the facts after decades?

 

 

Ya seem to have misinterpreted may level of concern on this topic, but that’s okay, but you seem to have some level angst concerning it, oh well, beer ? time ??

 

Go Bills!!!

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18 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:


There’s absolutely no comparison between Kelly and Flutie.

 

None.

 

Aside from the obvious point that one was a much better QB than the other, compare how they handled themselves when they weren’t playing.

 

When Jimbo was out and had to support Frank Reich (or even Todd Collins later in his career), he did everything he could to get those guys ready to win. He even used to take Frankie out for milkshakes and pick his brain on a weekly basis.

2nd wow, lots of continued angst here, because JK was never ever an arrogant me first guy, sure he softened up after a while, and played the good teammate, but that’s not the JK that first came to Buffalo, and we all know that. Boy you guys a testy, beer ? time ??

 

Go Bills!!!

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10 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

2nd wow, lots of continued angst here, because JK was never ever an arrogant me first guy, sure he softened up after a while, and played the good teammate, but that’s not the JK that first came to Buffalo, and we all know that. Boy you guys a testy, beer ? time ??

 

Go Bills!!!


Zero angst. Just an honest comparison between the two players’ personas. They couldn’t be more different.

 

Cocky is one thing. Undermining the team for personal gain is another.

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10 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:


Zero angst. Just an honest comparison between the two players’ personas. They couldn’t be more different.

 

Cocky is one thing. Undermining the team for personal gain is another.

 

After all these years, I think this is the first I'm learning that you're on the right side of this argument!!

 

 

 

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30 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

Ya seem to have misinterpreted may level of concern on this topic, but that’s okay, but you seem to have some level angst concerning it, oh well, beer ? time ??

 

Go Bills!!!

 

every thread with you is like this   :(

 

 

had you on ignore but sadly chose to open one of your replies on this thread...

 

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40 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:


Zero angst. Just an honest comparison between the two players’ personas. They couldn’t be more different.

 

Cocky is one thing. Undermining the team for personal gain is another.

Cocky? JK was an asz when he first got to Buffalo it wasn’t till year two that he started to change, that’s what my point is, that and JK was not benched for a scrub, he was injured, things would have been a lot different if Jim was benched for the likes of Rob Johnson. Luckily Ralph kept his nose out of team decision during those years, for the most part anyway , and we didn’t have to go through that again. More beer ???

you can have your opinion and that’s absolutely fine with me. 

 

Go Bills !!!

39 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

every thread with you is like this   :(

 

 

had you on ignore but sadly chose to open one of your replies on this thread...

 

Think of it as just another opinion, yours opinion  is fine with me, we just see this topic differently is all, no harm done. ??

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10 hours ago, MJS said:

 

 

Don't confuse the agendas of one or two posters here with the overall sentiment of Bills fans. I think most Bills fans liked Flutie and thought he brought some excitement to the team. But there are some very vocal Flutie haters.

 

And yet there are countless, countless examples of worse characters in the NFL that get much less grief.

 

That's literally all it is. Mad he divided the team. Mad that he had an ego. He didn't do anything besides that. Pretty crazy that certain Bills fans feel so strongly about something so tame. Flutie is a decent guy and a good athlete. There are far worse people to hate.

You underestimate. This place was like the Wild West meets Stalin’s purge.  Plenty of hatred on each side.  The smarter folks were anti-Flutopians.

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5 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said:

You underestimate. This place was like the Wild West meets Stalin’s purge.  Plenty of hatred on each side.  The smarter folks were anti-Flutopians.

Sounds like George from Seinfeld on steroidal rage , ? all sorts of ignore list threats flying around ? ,  in hind sight it is likely a pretty funny read, grown men getting all seriously butt hurt about essentially nothing. ?

 

Go Bills!!!

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