GaryPinC Posted February 21 Posted February 21 20 hours ago, Doc said: Probably and that's been my point since 2020: it was going to ravage the US no matter who was President. But many on the left (like "Homelander," to whom I was responding) think Trump totally mismanaged the COVID response and Biden did well. I agree with the last paragraph. And think they also wouldn't have shut down travel from China early-on for fear of looking racist. It wouldn't have mattered if they had shut China travel earlier. It spread too quickly with 2 or 3 days of victims being asymptomatic and infectious, and longer for those that remained asymptomatic. China was also slow to acknowledge it, I know I first learned about it from Li Wenliang's warnings shortly before he died and the construction of field hospitals in Wuhan early Feb 2020. Think about how long it had been spreading to get to that point. Probably 2-6 months, plenty to get it seeded around the world. The Wuhan market was shut down January 1 2020 to test for viruses. Other than Trump's standard stupid spews about alternative remedies he did just fine. So many hind-sighters on both sides forget how in the dark we were those first six months of 2020.
Doc Posted February 21 Posted February 21 28 minutes ago, GaryPinC said: It wouldn't have mattered if they had shut China travel earlier. It spread too quickly with 2 or 3 days of victims being asymptomatic and infectious, and longer for those that remained asymptomatic. China was also slow to acknowledge it, I know I first learned about it from Li Wenliang's warnings shortly before he died and the construction of field hospitals in Wuhan early Feb 2020. Think about how long it had been spreading to get to that point. Probably 2-6 months, plenty to get it seeded around the world. The Wuhan market was shut down January 1 2020 to test for viruses. Other than Trump's standard stupid spews about alternative remedies he did just fine. So many hind-sighters on both sides forget how in the dark we were those first six months of 2020. I started to hear about it midway through January. I went to a medical conference at the end of the month and they were talking about it. Never thought it would blow up the way it did though.
BillsFanNC Posted February 21 Posted February 21 Wuhan worked with a humanized mouse model having ACE2 spike protein receptors in lung tissue that exhibited >1000 fold infectivity enhancement with engineered SARS like viruses. Translation: All masking protocols, lockdowns and public health measures were useless. The virus was going to spread around the globe like wildfire just as it did no matter what 1 1 1
GaryPinC Posted February 21 Posted February 21 2 hours ago, Doc said: I started to hear about it midway through January. I went to a medical conference at the end of the month and they were talking about it. Never thought it would blow up the way it did though. Yeah, no one did. As soon as I heard about them setting up field hospitals I knew we were f*cked. It seemed surreal but the Chinese take outbreaks seriously and it was too late for them already. 2 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: Wuhan worked with a humanized mouse model having ACE2 spike protein receptors in lung tissue that exhibited >1000 fold infectivity enhancement with engineered SARS like viruses. Translation: All masking protocols, lockdowns and public health measures were useless. The virus was going to spread around the globe like wildfire just as it did no matter what 😂Yes, an overexpressing artificially created mouse model always portends truth. Look how many times it's pegged cancer cures. Translation: You are incredibly overreacting and ignorant, and just plain wrong. Stay away from science and medicine. You truly suck at it. 1
BillsFanNC Posted February 21 Posted February 21 5 minutes ago, GaryPinC said: Yeah, no one did. As soon as I heard about them setting up field hospitals I knew we were f*cked. It seemed surreal but the Chinese take outbreaks seriously and it was too late for them already. 😂Yes, an overexpressing artificially created mouse model always portends truth. Look how many times it's pegged cancer cures. Translation: You are incredibly overreacting and ignorant, and just plain wrong. Stay away from science and medicine. You truly suck at it. How many years have you spent AT THE BENCH conducting these very same types of genetic manipulation experiments with viruses like flu and rsv? I'm guessing 0.0 is pretty close. You're a clown like Quack.
BillsFanNC Posted February 22 Posted February 22 (edited) Gary... Have you conducted experiments in BSL-2 labs before? How about BSL-3? Edited February 22 by BillsFanNC 1
BillsFanNC Posted February 25 Posted February 25 Where ya been Gary? What does your extensive scientific experience conducting experiments at BSL-2 or BSL-2+ tell you about how to answer this question?
B-Man Posted March 7 Posted March 7 India Issues an Emergency Warning as Deaths Surge Among the Covid-Vaxxed by Frank Bergmab An emergency warning has emerged from India after some of the country’s leading scientists identified an alarming surge in deaths among the Covid-vaccinated population. The discovery was revealed in a landmark study led by Dr. Abin Kulathunkal Rajan and Dr. Abu Bashar from the All India Institute of Medical Sciences (AIIMS) in Gorakhpur. https://slaynews.com/news/india-issues-emergency-warning-death-surge-among-covid-vaxxed/ https://aiimsgorakhpur.edu.in/ https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/25151355251321697 1
Homelander Posted March 12 Posted March 12 Trump's second act demonstrates no lessons learned from the first.
BillsFanNC Posted March 12 Posted March 12 Sweden followed the recommendations of the new NIH director. 1 1
The Frankish Reich Posted March 27 Posted March 27 It is truly horrible that Pfizer may have delayed release of this DNA-ALTERING POISON in order help defeat Trump. This was, after all, Trump's DNA-ALTERING POISION FAST TRACK and he should have gotten full credit for its creation, just as he should now be given full credit for pointing out that it is in fact DNA-ALTERING POISON. It's a wondrous Trump Achievement! It's the Andromeda Strain! It's all things to Trumpies, all at once.
thenorthremembers Posted March 27 Posted March 27 On 3/12/2025 at 9:38 PM, JDHillFan said: Redhawk and his band of Virginia Virologists say no. In other breaking news ABC just announced "Water is indeed Wet" 1
JFKjr Posted March 29 Posted March 29 On 3/27/2025 at 1:26 AM, The Frankish Reich said: It is truly horrible that Pfizer may have delayed release of this DNA-ALTERING POISON in order help defeat Trump. This was, after all, Trump's DNA-ALTERING POISION FAST TRACK and he should have gotten full credit for its creation, just as he should now be given full credit for pointing out that it is in fact DNA-ALTERING POISON. It's a wondrous Trump Achievement! It's the Andromeda Strain! It's all things to Trumpies, all at once. Maybe a "mandate" would be helpful. Sounds like you're due for a booster! 1
BillsFanNC Posted March 29 Posted March 29 Does Finding ever not demonstrate the iron law? Lunatic leftists such as Finding regarding the vaccine: Before election week 2020: The Trump vaccine. I'm never taking that. After election week 2020: You must take the vaccine or else. How about the rational scientific view instead? The vaccine always had its place with truly vulnerable populations (elderly, chronic disease, immunocompromised etc.) and should never have been mandated for anyone. The end. 2
The Frankish Reich Posted March 29 Posted March 29 56 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Lunatic leftists such as Finding regarding the vaccine: Before election week 2020: The Trump vaccine. I'm never taking that. After election week 2020: You must take the vaccine or else. How about the rational scientific view instead? effin idiot. I was in favor of a vaccine from the get-go. I wanted it released en masse absolutely as soon as testing was completed. If Pfizer dragged their feet for whatever reason, that's not good. I am pointing out the particularly ret@rded view here that Trumpies accuse Pfizer of delaying a vaccine that they later categorized as a public health menace. the "rational scientific view" is not something our dear failed scientist and current lab supplies salesman has any business talking about.
BillsFanNC Posted March 29 Posted March 29 ⬆️ Grading 8th grade essays for grammar today? Friggin Finding!
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