GG Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 Just now, BuffaloHokie13 said: I'm not sure what people expected after an entire quarter of businesses being required to close under threat of arrest and fines... The stimulus checks are masking a disaster in the making. Nobody knows what the employment situation will be when the states reopen and how many small businesses will be around or how many more layoffs will happen at the large companies. the longer the lockdowns linger, the worse the outcome. 1
IDBillzFan Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, GG said: The stimulus checks are masking a disaster in the making. Nobody knows what the employment situation will be when the states reopen and how many small businesses will be around or how many more layoffs will happen at the large companies. the longer the lockdowns linger, the worse the outcome. Anyone who thinks the economy is doing fine should probably stop thinking out loud. The number of small businesses being wiped out is horrible. The number of people who relied on that small business job will find it extremely difficult to land a similar job when things open up because millions will be lined up for crumbs. It'll take years to get this corrected, and you don't need to be an economics major to see this. But hey...if we can save one life from a virus that kills less than 1% of the population, it'll be worth all the overdoses, suicides and abusiveness that came in its path. 1
Big Blitz Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 More from Osterholm. With a straight face, he inadvertently tells us the goal was "get rid of the virus." Ummmmmmmmmmmmm............ This is the absolute worst..worst in Monday Morning Quarterbacking and why "this is full on political now" and that should tick off everyone. If states "opened to soon" can we stop with full national totals and just do a "we think these states did it right" total and a "these states did it all wrong" total? Dr. Michael Osterholm, epidemiologist at the University of Minnesota, told MarketWatch’s Jaimy Lee in an interview that the U.S. effort to contain the virus has failed because victory was declared long before it made sense. Early hot spot New York and neighboring states succeeded in getting their outbreaks under control by strict lockdowns that were followed by very gradual reopenings. Other states did not follow suit. “This virus has been poised to be transmitted in our communities, and we thought we had done enough to get it down. It’s like a fire crew. “I only put out half the forest fire but you know, I put out half so we’re done.” And then look what happened. It’s burned more acres since we gave up than it did before we gave up,” he said.
Dante Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 Lying Fauchi is a pos. Another one that should go to prison for a good 20 years. Jordan guy is a rock star 1
Numark3 Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Dante said: Lying Fauchi is a pos. Another one that should go to prison for a good 20 years. Jordan guy is a rock star why? Fauci said right away they increase the spread and that he can’t comment on restrictions on protests. jordan guy Is pandering to you (hey, it worked!). He knows damn well the government can’t restrict or limit these protests. amazing to see politicians fool people (like you) in real time 1
Dante Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Crayola64 said: why? Fauci said right away they increase the spread and that he can’t comment on restrictions on protests. jordan guy Is pandering to you (hey, it worked!). He knows damn well the government can’t restrict or limit these protests. amazing to see politicians fool people (like you) in real time "Fooled" says the guy most likely running around in a mask afraid of the flu. Anyway, he's not pandering, just pointing out the hypocrisy and inconsistencies. Fauchi is a liar who can't answer a simple question because he knows he's a puppet and doesn't want to be exposed. 1
bilzfancy Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Crayola64 said: why? Fauci said right away they increase the spread and that he can’t comment on restrictions on protests. jordan guy Is pandering to you (hey, it worked!). He knows damn well the government can’t restrict or limit these protests. amazing to see politicians fool people (like you) in real time If you can stop people from going to a ball game, to church, to a gym, to a funeral, then you should be able to stop protests. Yes, protesting is a protected right, but so is going to church. 1
Big Blitz Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, Crayola64 said: why? Fauci said right away they increase the spread and that he can’t comment on restrictions on protests. jordan guy Is pandering to you (hey, it worked!). He knows damn well the government can’t restrict or limit these protests. amazing to see politicians fool people (like you) in real time But they can limit literally everything else like Church services? Gtfo
Numark3 Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, bilzfancy said: If you can stop people from going to a ball game, to church, to a gym, to a funeral, then you should be able to stop protests. Yes, protesting is a protected right, but so is going to church. the right to go to a church is not anywhere near as strong as a right to protest in public. like it or not, that is the way it is.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 Just now, Crayola64 said: the right to go to a church is not anywhere near as strong as a right to protest in public. like it or not, that is the way it is. Both are peaceful assemblies as far as I can tell. 1
Big Blitz Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, Crayola64 said: why? Fauci said right away they increase the spread and that he can’t comment on restrictions on protests. jordan guy Is pandering to you (hey, it worked!). He knows damn well the government can’t restrict or limit these protests. amazing to see politicians fool people (like you) in real time Oh he also said the virus will dictate if we have football. He had no problem opining on that. This whole thing literally is just going to go away on November 4 and we're going to live like it never even happened.
Numark3 Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 Just now, Big Blitz said: But they can limit literally everything else like Church services? Gtfo Um yes? The conservative-majority Supreme Court just said limits on church is within a state’s right. and there’s a reason no state has placed restrictions beyond curfews (see, some restrictions are okay!) on protests. It would be shot down instantly as unconstitutional. cry about your constitution, this isn’t a partisan point. Did the government shut down the conservative protests? Genuine question.
Taro T Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 Just now, Crayola64 said: the right to go to a church is not anywhere near as strong as a right to protest in public. like it or not, that is the way it is. Which of those 2 rights are protected by the FIRST Amendment? Oh, they both are? Holy cow, you may be an intelligent person in real life, but you sure do love to play an idiot on the internet.
Big Blitz Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 Fauci also had no problem telling us people can't go to football games. What a freaking joke.
WEATHER DOT COM Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 Just now, Big Blitz said: Fauci also had no problem telling us people can't go to football games. Quote?
Taro T Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Oh he also said the virus will dictate if we have football. He had no problem opining on that. This whole thing literally is just going to go away on November 4 and we're going to live like it never even happened. Wifey made a good point. IF Biden wins, it doesn't go away in November, it goes away in early February so he can claim he "fixed it." 1
Numark3 Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Taro T said: Which of those 2 rights are protected by the FIRST Amendment? Oh, they both are? Holy cow, you may be an intelligent person in real life, but you sure do love to play an idiot on the internet. im being fully serious in this discussion. Freedom of religion and freedom of speech are both first amendment rights. Neither are absolute rights. limits on attendance to religious services (equally applied to all religions) is going to be upheld. And it has been upheld consistently, including the Supreme Court. restrictions on protests have been made and are okay. But simply preventing people from protesting in public spaces, would never be attempted or upheld. It’s clearly unconstitutional How is that an idiotic statement? Edited July 31, 2020 by Crayola64
RiotAct Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Taro T said: Wifey made a good point. IF Biden wins, it doesn't go away in November, it goes away in early February so he can claim he "fixed it." heh. Interestingly enough, that may be the natural progression of things anyway. Biden gets elected in November (pretty much a given at this point), vaccine or newly-found effective treatment comes out first quarter of ‘21.
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