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7 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

 

lol for life

 

You're an idiot.

why is he an idiot?  I haven’t seen a single liberal politician clearly state what the case / hospitalization threshold is for getting back to normal.  Just blindly repeating the empty “follow the science” fallback.

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11 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

 

lol for life

 

You're an idiot.

 

 

8 billion people getting a vaccine that may or may not work in the next 15 years?  Kids under 16 (the scary carriers for teachers so we can't open schools) are not advised to take it.  

 

So again, where is this virus going in the next 20 years?

 

The bar they've set is "No one gets it."  As long as its out there, no matter how low the numbers (and those will ALWAYS be the numbers because I'm not an idiot) these will continue to be the measures because you willingly gave them and actually voted for them to have unprecedented power that just doesn't get relinquished.

 

It gets used. 

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Half the country thinks you can telework for life.

 

The government will just supplement them. 

 

The kids don't need to be in school bc its been exposed as a non essential joke and there is no reason online isn't as good----right, teachers?

 

There's no reason to go out to eat just have food delivered to you.

 

All they wanna do is a zoom zoom zoom....it's awesome look how happy everyone is in the commercials.   

 

Oh?  We get to not "pollute" as much?  Cool.

 

Travel bans.....and Team Karen is good with them its frightening to think what other countries could bring here.  But not the Mexican border.  That's safe.  

 

See, you went 18 months plus without doing any of these things you're used to it now no big deal.  

 

Oh yea!  Fraud by mail forever!  Let's go!!!!

 

 

Find me one Democrat politician or any for that matter saying when we will be fully open and the distancing and the masking is over.  Find me one so called public health expert telling you precisely how this ends and when.  And if they say the words "a sort of return to normalcy" throw it out find another one.  

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2 hours ago, RiotAct said:

why is he an idiot?  I haven’t seen a single liberal politician clearly state what the case / hospitalization threshold is for getting back to normal.  Just blindly repeating the empty “follow the science” fallback.

 

We're not locked down. Period. Not sure how we continue "lockdowns for life."

 

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1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

Half the country thinks you can telework for life.

 

Any data? I'm calling bull####. More than half the country works in retail/entertainment/other industries that require work outside of home.

 

1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

The government will just supplement them. 

 

Who? The people working from home? 

 

1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

The kids don't need to be in school bc its been exposed as a non essential joke and there is no reason online isn't as good----right, teachers?

 

Kids should be at school. It's a position most, including me - and the president elect - have evolved to. The science says risk of spread in schools is very low.

 

1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

There's no reason to go out to eat just have food delivered to you.

 

lol - Restaurants are packed when they are open. 

 

1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

All they wanna do is a zoom zoom zoom....it's awesome look how happy everyone is in the commercials.   

 

If you are basing your opinions even partly on how people look in commercials... yikes.

 

1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

But not the Mexican border.  That's safe.  

 

It is - look at the data.

 

1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

See, you went 18 months plus without doing any of these things you're used to it now no big deal.  

 

You noted one thing people aren't doing - going out to eat. And a majority of folks I know have not only done that in the last 18 months - but in the past month.

1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

Oh yea!  Fraud by mail forever!  Let's go!!!!

 

#FakeNews per the Supreme Court and Trump's legal team has a worse winning percentage then the ***** New York Jets.

 

1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

Find me one Democrat politician or any for that matter saying when we will be fully open and the distancing and the masking is over.  Find me one so called public health expert telling you precisely how this ends and when.  And if they say the words "a sort of return to normalcy" throw it out find another one.  

 

Why are you demanding answers now for what we will not know until the future? An expert cannot predict precisely how this ends and when. Nobody can.

 

 

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43 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

 

 

Why are you demanding answers now for what we will not know until the future? An expert cannot predict precisely how this ends and when. Nobody can.

 

 

 

 

 

Everything else you said is wrong or misinformed or head in the sand so I'll just get to this.

 

We don't need an exact date.  

 

We absolutely should be demanding to know why their metrics and goal posts keep moving.  

 

This is an unprecedented power transfer in this country not just to government but to mega corporations at the expense of the other 99.5 percent of us.  Which coincidently is the virus survival rate.

 

 

Nothing is normal as long as there are capacity limits, distancing, and masks.  None of which we were told (all their lying is my "data") would be needed longer then 15.....30.....3 months....till a vaccine......oh and now beyond a vaccine.  

 

That's years.  And if these metrics like in DC still require the ridiculous mitigation they are still imposing then it NEVER ENDS.  My guess is you're good with it because leftists in this country have a control gene.  A "we can micromanage" everything God complex.   

 

 

 

 

So I'll ask again.  I don't need a date.  What is the METRIC your government is looking at in order to say "we can drop the anti humanity social distancing s*** and get back to living life not just "surviving."   

 

They can't and won't answer that.   Which means they should all be......I'll just leave it at that.  

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Again, scientists don't know for sure if the vaccines will work as well with B.1.1.7. as they do with previous forms of the virus. They need to test out the new variant in laboratory experiments. But many scientists are optimistic.

Why? When we get a vaccine, our immune systems make many antibodies against a big chunk of the virus, not just one small section that could change when the virus mutates. So even if the variant contains 17 mutations, some antibodies targeting the vaccine will likely still bind and neutralize the virus.

"So if you're in line for the COVID-19 vaccine, stay in line. Don't give up your spot. Take it," says microbiologist Andrew Pekosz of Johns Hopkins University. "You know, everything is still looking good from the vaccine standpoint

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Sounds like there is no pandemic on the Mexican border:

 

 

Also in the interview, Rice and Sullivan urged future border crossers in Mexico and Central America to remain patient while they “increase processing capacity.”

 

“Migrants and asylum seekers absolutely should not believe those in the region peddling the idea that the border will suddenly be fully open to process everyone on Day 1,” Rice said. “It will take months to develop the capacity that we will need to reopen fully.”

 

As Breitbart News reported, more than 67,000 border crossers were apprehended at the U.S.-Mexico border in November — more than double the roughly 33,500 who were apprehended in November 2019. About 58,500 of those arrested last month were single adults, while nearly 4,500 were Unaccompanied Alien Children (UACs).

 

In the first two months of Fiscal Year 2021, for instance, close to 135,000 border crossers were apprehended by Border Patrol. This accounts for a seven-year apprehension high during these months.

 

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/22/joe-biden-to-dismantle-trumps-legal-wall-inviting-central-americans-to-southern-border/

 

 

How long as the border with Canada been closed?  

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13 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

So I'll ask again.  I don't need a date.  What is the METRIC your government is looking at in order to say "we can drop the anti humanity social distancing s*** and get back to living life not just "surviving."   

 

They can't and won't answer that.   Which means they should all be......I'll just leave it at that.  

Most of the experts are projecting herd immunity by May or June depending on how many people are vaccinated which is why availability and compliance are crucial.  People will be surprised at how quickly this thing goes away.  Then we can get back to hugging random strangers in a sold out stadium without the burden of masks.  I'm hoping Johnson and Johnson's vaccine will be out by the end of January as it has the advantage of only one shot instead of two.

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11 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

Most of the experts are projecting herd immunity by May or June depending on how many people are vaccinated which is why availability and compliance are crucial.  People will be surprised at how quickly this thing goes away.  Then we can get back to hugging random strangers in a sold out stadium without the burden of masks. 

 

 

I'm 100% serious do you have a source for that herd immunity take?  

 

 

 

 

Random strangers in stadiums?

 

I'm going on 1 year my 8 year old won't be playing any Park and Recreation Basketball, Soccer, or baseball.  Once again.  When I site me, I'm speaking for millions of parents and their kids watching their one shot of growth and development get absolutely thrown away.  No going back for them.  But hey... 'new strain!!!'

 

There is ZERO end in sight for this.  People are absolutely kidding themselves thinking that the vaccine is going to do this----before 2024.  You are looking an indefinitely social distancing mandates and all that entails for years not because of science.  Because of fear, politics, and power.  Your "leaders" are frothing at the mouth having seen how easy it is to control and the biggest assist they got is the media and Silicon work from home for life we're just fine Valley. 

 

 

They're already sounding alarms here in VA that we will be at 60K cases a week by February.  Which was the same model (UVA) that said we would hit that number in June.  That's June 2020. 

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30 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

I'm 100% serious do you have a source for that herd immunity take?  

 

Random strangers in stadiums?

 

I'm going on 1 year my 8 year old won't be playing any Park and Recreation Basketball, Soccer, or baseball.  Once again.  When I site me, I'm speaking for millions of parents and their kids watching their one shot of growth and development get absolutely thrown away.  No going back for them.  But hey... 'new strain!!!'

 

There is ZERO end in sight for this.  People are absolutely kidding themselves thinking that the vaccine is going to do this----before 2024.  You are looking an indefinitely social distancing mandates and all that entails for years not because of science.  Because of fear, politics, and power.  Your "leaders" are frothing at the mouth having seen how easy it is to control and the biggest assist they got is the media and Silicon work from home for life we're just fine Valley. 

 

 

They're already sounding alarms here in VA that we will be at 60K cases a week by February.  Which was the same model (UVA) that said we would hit that number in June.  That's June 2020. 

This is pure paranoia.  2024?  The most conservative estimates of reaching herd immunity I've read is next fall if we run into more problems than we thought in either distribution of the vaccine or compliance.  We have two vaccines approved already and more are likely to come.  Here's what Trump's vaccine czar predicted about a month ago.

 

“Normally, with the level of efficacy we have, 95 percent, 70 percent or so of the population being immunized would allow for true herd immunity to take place,” he said. “That is likely to happen somewhere in the month of May, or something like that, based on our plans.” 

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2 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

Not sure we're vaccinating 50 million people by May....of 2022 let alone 70 percent of the population.  That's fine by Dark Winter Biden. 

Why not?  About 51% of Americans got the flu shot last year.  I'm sure we can bump that up 20% this year for the Covid vaccine as people want to get back to life as normal.  Businesses can mandate it.  Schools can mandate it.  You seem to want to make this as political as possible when we all have the same goal of getting back to life before Covid.

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