shoshin Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 49 minutes ago, spartacus said: I got the info from the CDC site back in June Could not find current instructions for use You may have better luck B-Man’s sources would have covered this in great detail if it was as you describe. I see nothing from Professor Google. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, shoshin said: B-Man’s sources would have covered this in great detail if it was as you describe. I see nothing from Professor Google. The PCR test is being replaced anyway 1. if not with with the all in one Flu/Covid test 2. trhe qucik at home test too hard to find covid only cases nobody knows what black box is being used to test you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-trump-sowed-covid-supply-chaos-try-getting-it-yourselves-11598893051?mod=hp_lead_pos5 How Trump Sowed Covid Supply Chaos. ‘Try Getting It Yourselves.’ Sergio Melgar, the chief financial officer for the largest health-care system in central Massachusetts, was about to run out of medical-grade N95 masks. A Chinese company poised to replenish the supply wanted the money upfront. It was after midnight on March 20, too late to arrange a wire transfer. So Mr. Melgar took out his own credit card and authorized a $100,000 charge. “If I don’t do this,” he recalls thinking, “we will run out.” Days earlier, as the spread of the coronavirus pandemic was becoming clear in the U.S., stoking panic about shortages of medical supplies, the Trump administration signaled to states they shouldn’t expect the federal government to meet their medical-supply needs. In a March 16 conference call, President Trump told governors that the federal government would try to help, but that for “respirators, ventilators, all of the equipment—try getting it yourselves.” ... Instead, the federal government’s approach turned hospital systems and state governments into rivals. Medical providers begged and scavenged for supplies. One doctor, worried his shipment of masks and gowns would be seized by another state, divided the supplies between two trucks to make sure at least some would get through. Some states turned against each other. One refused to give another contact information for lab supplies, fearful of being outbid. Governors kept shipment details secret. Other governors dispatched state police to airports to guard their cargo. Interviews with Trump administration and state officials and hospital executives, as well as internal documents and emails reviewed by The Wall Street Journal, show that the White House’s shifting of responsibility to the states came gradually, influenced in part by its late recognition of the supply threat and its slowness in mobilizing the federal government to coordinate a response. Early on, some states and a small number of Trump officials were pushing for the federal government to centralize the supply chain, but the idea was never seriously considered inside the White House, officials said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doc Brown Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 15 hours ago, bilzfancy said: Do the math, that means just a little over 11,000 died from the virus, that didn't have underlying conditions My guess is most of those 11,000 had some sort of undiagnosed underlying health condition. Protecting the vulnerable by doing our best not to get the virus and spread it is all we can do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 On 1/27/2020 at 9:57 AM, LeviF91 said: It's important to understand that mis/disinfo doesn't just come from the Chinese government. I'm willing to bet that most of the pictures we are seeing of sick/dead people in China are not from this outbreak. There's a lot of uncertainty thanks to the Chinese constantly lying, but public health interventions most certainly make infection reproduction numbers go down - even in 3rd world conditions. I've seen R numbers for this virus anywhere from 2.5 to 3.8. By comparison, measles is anywhere from 12 to 18. Is it bad? Yeah - but it's mostly bad because the Chinese were more concerned about saving face than they were saving lives. Luckily we don't have the same kinds of issues with our government that the Chinese have. Funny. On 1/27/2020 at 10:25 PM, B-Man said: I’D RATHER THEY DID BETTER AT CONTAINING THE VIRUS: Chinese Officials Race to Contain Anger Over Virus. . Love when there are trails. On 1/28/2020 at 10:48 PM, snafu said: Yep. Unless the reports of fatalities are completely wrong, this doesn’t seem to be all that awful. And Is it super contagious? No big deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 On 2/1/2020 at 2:52 PM, Foxx said: not, i repeat, not the coronavirus. A 'highly pathogenic strain' of H5N1 bird flu has been reported in China's Hunan province Repeat it again. On 2/3/2020 at 3:41 PM, Doc said: They didn't tell anyone that they genetically engineered it with HIV. Didn't know that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkreed Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 18 hours ago, keepthefaith said: Do protests of any kind (including peaceful) even move the policy needle in the direction of those protesting? If so, are the policy changes effective or desirable? Can anyone provide an example where protests and protests alone resulted in something good? I don't have an answer to your question. But I do have an observation on your insinuation (wether intentional or not). The insinuation I take from this is that the US should ban the right to assemble (since it does no good). We have enough constitutional trampling already, we don't need more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 On 2/25/2020 at 6:45 PM, Wacka said: Someone has gone full Tibs The flu has a higher mortally rate. yeah On 2/25/2020 at 9:25 PM, B-Man said: It will be ready, tomorrow and then the day after that. On 2/26/2020 at 7:54 PM, B-Man said: Pence is a steady hand and that’s what’s needed here. President Trump did the right thing making him point person. We need an experienced administrator for a large undertaking as this (not an MD), who will not be leaking to the media . He was also smart to make it bi-partisan. 75% of the people up there on stage (CDC bureaucrats etc) are Dems and Hillary voters. Trump is standing aside and letting the bureaucrats speak. . Funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 On 2/27/2020 at 8:47 AM, Chef Jim said: I hire people not so I can tell them what to do I hire them to tell me what to do. - Steve Jobs i think he did pretty well. Trump seems in direct opposition to Jobs. On 2/27/2020 at 1:22 PM, B-Man said: Is it a few weeks, yet? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 On 2/27/2020 at 5:46 PM, RaoulDuke79 said: This is just like Sars and Ebola, only even more so now because every single thing has become politicized. Media frenzy is causing unnecessary fear and overreaction. Its shameful. A lot of people groaned and scoffed when Trump labeled the MSM as an enemy of the people, but it was a spot on assessment. Yes And 199 of them will go to the homeless encampments or illegals because.........California. On 2/28/2020 at 11:14 AM, B-Man said: The Democrats and the virus: Truth is hard, propaganda is cheap! by Patricia McCarthy Original Article The Democrats have truly lost their minds. For years they have wailed about how our borders should all be open, how there should be no walls. When President Trump six weeks ago banned travelers from China, they called him a racist, of course. Now that the virus has spread, they are blaming him, accusing him of an anemic response. Wrong. The country has a pandemic plan in place, no matter who is president, but Trump has been on the case since China informed the world of the virus breakout. A task force to address this virus has been in place for at least a month. They've accused Trump of cutting the budget of the CDC and NIH. Even AP shows that he did not. He had proposed some cuts, but they never went into effect, and there is a standing congressional fund for health emergencies. But the Democrats do not care about facts; they live for any crisis they can weaponize for an assault on the president. They are as shameless as they are calculating. As always, they believe they can fool the American people and that their lies will not be exposed. Thomas Sowell was exactly right when he said, "It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance." Of course, these Dems have an army of like-minded fellow travelers in the media, like Gail Collins, who, in her NYT column, said the virus should be called Trumpvirus, as if the President created it in the Oval Office and disseminated it far and wide. That is how depraved they are. More at the link: Great job, Donnie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 On 2/28/2020 at 2:57 PM, B-Man said: NEWS YOU CAN USE: Five Reasons to Stop Freaking Out About Coronavirus. Reading that link of yours to Breitbart tells you all you need to know about Breitbart. Coronavirus is an “info-demic,” a panic caused by the spread of partial and often misleading information about a health risk, sometimes deliberately. The virus is real, and a small number of people have been infected. But it is going to pass. It is an unpleasant respiratory illness, but it is not an organ-destroying horror like Ebola. Precautions are being taken, a vaccine will emerge, and life will continue as usual. Here are five specific reasons to chill out. 1. Coronavirus is a familiar illness, and not as bad as others. It is from the SARS family — and less deadly. As Ha’aretz noted, “the mortality rate from the current disease ranges from 0.5 to 2 percent, and is significantly lower than the mortality rate from the 2002 SARS outbreak (9.5 percent) and much lower than the 2012 SARS outbreak (34.4 percent). It may even be close to the mortality rate from an ordinary flu outbreak in the United States.” 2. The U.S. response has been exceptionally good. There have only been 16 cases thus far, none deadly. President Donald Trump bought precious time by stopping travel to China last month — a step critics said was overly drastic. Democrats are screaming about funding and staff cuts that never actually happened. The latest outrage: the White House is controlling the message. As they should! The people in lab coats are not always good communicators. 3. We are going to have a vaccine soon. There are private companies in the U.S. and around the world racing to develop a vaccine — not just because of the urgent public health need, but because whoever finds it first stands to make a lot of money. (This is where the profit motive, and the pharmaceutical industry, are so crucial — contrary to what Bernie Sanders, Amy Klobuchar, and other Democrats running for president have been saying about them.) 4. China is going to be all right. The number of cases in China sounds large — until you consider the size of China. True, the Chinese government has been duplicitous about coronavirus, as it is about everything. (Amartya Sen famously observed that India, unlike China, has never suffered famine because India has a free press.) And U.S. firms are learning a long-overdue lesson about the risks of investing there. But China will eventually pull through. 5. The same people who want you to panic about coronavirus want you to panic about everything. The news business thrives on chaos. In addition, the media want to destroy Trump, which is why they spread the Russia collusion hoax. Coronavirus is not a hoax, but pundits should be asked if they cared enough about flu — which kills far more people — to get their shot this year. If not, ignore them. Remember to wash your hands, and stay cool. On 2/29/2020 at 2:26 PM, OldTimeAFLGuy said: as I said before, CDC reported 61,000 US flu related deaths in 2017-2018.....where was that PANIC?... 61,000 you say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 On 2/29/2020 at 2:44 PM, Foxx said: the media is not your friend. https://twitter.com/BradenDMitchell/status/1233837117303902209 "The press needs to shut up". Ain't democracy great? On 2/29/2020 at 3:48 PM, 3rdnlng said: The difference is the number from the cruise ship that are quarantined. Today he used the number of 62 that may have it. Trump says that the upcoming warmer weather should help, which is accurate. On 2/29/2020 at 4:17 PM, fansince88 said: Im thinking huffing Lysol is out only hope. That kills 99.9% of coronavirus per the label. Did Trump get the idea from this guy? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 On 3/2/2020 at 8:53 AM, Foxx said: https://twitter.com/me_think_free/status/1233440669848481794 Remember the tests that say "Which of these does not belong?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Speaking of verbal diarrhea, is Kemp ever going address the Williamsburg Hasid apocalypse? We're 5 months past THE funeral and the weddings. Surely the community would be wiped out by now. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Just now, GG said: FLYNNDICATED! Finally!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 On 3/2/2020 at 9:39 PM, Buffalo Bills Fan said: Trump's knowledge on science everything is horrible. His SATs proved that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 46 minutes ago, Kemp said: Trump seems in direct opposition to Jobs. And your point other than Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump? You’re like a band that plays the same set every single night. Even if their music is good it becomes boring and very predictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 On 3/4/2020 at 9:22 AM, Hardhatharry said: Does anyone care if Iran situation gets better? TBH it is good they got it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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