Phil The Thrill Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: But at the same time it’s estimated that 87% of the players use it regularly. I hang out with, or used to hang out with, about 5 guys that played. Every single one of them uses it (not always like some). They said that well over half of the locker room uses it regularly. If you get caught normally, it’s because you are an idiot. Henderson is a bit of a weird case. He didn’t hide it because he said that was all that helped with Crohn’s. The rest of the leagues look the other way. As always, the NFL is the last guy to sit at the table. It does then ZERO good to fight it at this point. It will be gone in the next CBA for sure. The point being, marijuana use is about reason 3,654,754,357 that you wouldn’t want a player. 87% Eh? Did you know 78.674% of people can make up statistics? On 11/18/2019 at 4:29 PM, JR in Pittsburgh said: I believe so is Terrance Pennington. Buddy? He doesn’t smoke weed, so Kirby doesn’t want him ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said: Haha maybe. I’m also anti-opioid. I just don’t want a player who puts weed above football as Seantrel has done SEVERAL times throughout it his life. But are you okay with the COUNTLESS players (and coaches Sean Payton) that put the far more dangerous option first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: But are you okay with the COUNTLESS players (and coaches Sean Payton) that put the far more dangerous option first? Dangerous options such as????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said: 87% Eh? Did you know 78.674% of people can make up statistics? It’s closer to 90% according to some players. From my knowledge that’s closer. there is just no danger. You get tested in the offseason and then again, with notice, if I understand it correctly. It’s really an idiot test. Alcohol, nicotine, opioids, etc.. are infinitely more dangerous. Regardless, it all be gone soon. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/martellus-bennett-estimates-that-nearly-90-percent-of-nfl-players-smoke-marijuana/amp/ Just now, Phil The Thrill said: Dangerous options such as????? The painkillers that they pop like candy (hydrocodone, icy, etc..). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 On 11/18/2019 at 7:45 PM, Mr. WEO said: He didn't get a raw deal.. He chose to use a banned substance. This has been discussed ad nauseam. He made his choice. The outcome was inevitable. It’s already been debated heavily among national commentators that medicinal weed is likely to be unbanned since it is now legal when a doctor prescribes it in a ton of states. Also it’s likely to be unbanned at the next CBA. You can’t have society make it legal and then your employer suspend you for it. They aren’t driving heavy machinery !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: It’s closer to 90% according to some players. From my knowledge that’s closer. there is just no danger. You get tested in the offseason and then again, with notice, if I understand it correctly. It’s really an idiot test. Alcohol, nicotine, opioids, etc.. are infinitely more dangerous. Regardless, it all be gone soon. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/martellus-bennett-estimates-that-nearly-90-percent-of-nfl-players-smoke-marijuana/amp/ The painkillers that they pop like candy (hydrocodone, icy, etc..). Your “knowledge” also said that Doug Whaley chose the XFL over NFL. Uh huh. It’s probably closer to 98% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: A player, check. A player in the drug testing program due to repeat offenses, that's something a team has to consider. Oh absolutely but not because he uses weed. It’s because he could be suspended because of the league’s antiquated approach to it. There are 9 states left (I think) where it’s totally illegal. It’s going away. The risk is, if he fails another test he’s suspended. If he fails a test, you cut him. Problem solved 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Locomark said: It’s already been debated heavily among national commentators that medicinal weed is likely to be unbanned since it is now legal when a doctor prescribes it in a ton of states. Also it’s likely to be unbanned at the next CBA. You can’t have society make it legal and then your employer suspend you for it. They aren’t driving heavy machinery !!!! Until the next CBA is agreed upon, I wouldn’t sign Seantrel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Just now, Phil The Thrill said: Your “knowledge” also said that Doug Whaley chose the XFL over NFL. Uh huh. It’s probably closer to 98% I’m not trying to be “that guy” but bringing my credibility into question on this board is a weird play. I have proven to be credible on multiple occasions and it’s documented on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: Oh absolutely but not because he uses weed. It’s because he could be suspended because of the league’s antiquated approach to it. There are 9 states left (I think) where it’s totally illegal. It’s going away. The risk is, if he fails another test he’s suspended. If he fails a test, you cut him. Problem solved That was my whole point...yet you turned this into a whole “your an anti weed guy” debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Locomark said: It’s already been debated heavily among national commentators that medicinal weed is likely to be unbanned since it is now legal when a doctor prescribes it in a ton of states. Also it’s likely to be unbanned at the next CBA. You can’t have society make it legal and then your employer suspend you for it. They aren’t driving heavy machinery !!!! Technically you can...employers can choose to ban certain things, they do it all the time. Not many employers allow you to drink alcohol at work and that is legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 Just now, Phil The Thrill said: Until the next CBA is agreed upon, I wouldn’t sign Seantrel What’s the risk of signing him now? It’s not going to be some big $ gtd contract. If he gets suspended, then cut him or whatever 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Just now, Phil The Thrill said: That was my whole point...yet you turned this into a whole “your an anti weed guy” debate. Well, you cut him with no money if he fails a test. There’s NO risk 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Phil The Thrill said: Until the next CBA is agreed upon, I wouldn’t sign Seantrel I wouldn’t sign him based on skills, I am just saying to exclude anyone who used weed five years ago is a dumb barometer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: What’s the risk of signing him now? It’s not going to be some big $ gtd contract. If he gets suspended, then cut him or whatever I guess...it’s just tough to rely on someone who’s on the bubble. But at this point, I’d be on board 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: Well, you cut him with no money if he fails a test. There’s NO risk Ok I would be fine with this then. Just can rely on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 minute ago, matter2003 said: Technically you can...employers can choose to ban certain things, they do it all the time. Not many employers allow you to drink alcohol at work and that is legal. That’s different! Players aren’t using the substance at work. Your work can’t tell you not to drink at home on the weekend, can they???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 Just now, Phil The Thrill said: I guess...it’s just tough to rely on someone who’s on the bubble. But at this point, I’d be on board I think he would be pure depth. Hopefully Ford isn’t so bad that they need to him to start and are relying on him for anything more than having to back up the OTs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said: Im bringing it into question. I don’t buy either of those claims Well, that’s up to you I guess. I don’t need to justify my info any longer as it has been proven true over and over. If you feel better doubting me, go for it. 3 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said: I guess...it’s just tough to rely on someone who’s on the bubble. But at this point, I’d be on board Ok I would be fine with this then. Just can rely on him No one is trusting him. He’s a low risk, week 12 addition. He’s quality depth that you can add (and cut) with no risk. He cheap insurance. That’s been the point the whole time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: Well, that’s up to you I guess. I don’t need to justify my info any longer as it has been proven true over and over. If you feel better doubting me, go for it. No one is trusting him. He’s a low risk, week 12 addition. He’s quality depth that you can add (and cut) with no risk. He cheap insurance. That’s been the point the whole time. I guess it’s worth a shot then, given the options at this point in the year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Locomark said: That’s different! Players aren’t using the substance at work. Your work can’t tell you not to drink at home on the weekend, can they???? Depends on the job. Some require a minimum time between drinking and checking in on duty - 8 hrs, 12 hrs, 24 hrs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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