leh-nerd skin-erd Posted July 14 Posted July 14 On 7/12/2025 at 9:42 AM, muppy said: SO. "theoretically" there is evidence of both party politicians in the said now *allegedly destroyed files on Jeffrey Epstein. This smells SO bad u guys. to High HEAVEN Nefarious conduct in the death of Jeffrey Epstein *Gasp* lol really. Yeah I'd say that is trending positive. pfft what is in the dark may never come to light. IN THIS CASE I am not expecting to see ANYTHING at this point. It's all a big fooking MESS. is naranja respobsible? I don't know but it smells like he could have profited from it. and he is such a WINNING Businessman don't u know @-@ this reads SO Hollywood film next Theater drama release of political intrigue Except we are right in the middle of the crock of MIERDA Liar Liar Pants on FIre. this story is a debacle that wont stop. Good Gravy. It’s the great equalizer, Mup. The Dems had control and….nothing. The Repubs have control and…nothing. Maybe it was always nothing. Maybe it was something and the files were scrubbed into nothing. Something for everyone!
thenorthremembers Posted July 14 Posted July 14 (edited) 22 hours ago, Homelander said: If thats the case, and maybe it is, why didnt Biden and the democrats use this information against Trump in any of the elections? They fabricated stories about him and Russia, they brought every woman they could find out of the wood works, had him detained and charged with felony white collar crimes, but didnt use the easiest smoking gun they had at their disposal to ruin his political career? Does that pass Occam's razor? Edited July 14 by thenorthremembers 2
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted July 14 Posted July 14 https://www.alternet.org/epstein-trump/ By the time of Trump's ascent to the presidency, Epstein was ready to "drop a dime" of his own. Wolff told Blumenthal and Wilentz how, after Trump's election in 2016, "I was sitting talking to Epstein and he said, 'Wait a minute, I've gotta show you something.'" According to Wolff, Epstein "went into his safe, and he came out with photographs. They were Polaroids, I think, and he kind of spread them out like playing cards. ... It was Trump with girls of an uncertain age, at Epstein's Palm Beach house, where all of the things that (Epstein) would ultimately be accused of took place." He places the date of those pictures around 1999 or 2000. "And I remember very vividly three of them," Wolff continued. "There are two in which the girls, topless girls, are sitting on Trump's lap. And then a third in which he has a stain on the front of his pants, and the girls are kind of pointing at it, sort of bent over, laughing ... three or four girls." Wolff also said he assumes those photographs were in Epstein's safe when the FBI raided his house and seized every item of potential evidence. The crimes and coverup demand a Congressional investigation -- and perhaps this time, Democrats and a few courageous Republicans will dare to demand the truth from Trump.
ChiGoose Posted July 14 Posted July 14 33 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: If thats the case, and maybe it is, why didnt Biden and the democrats use this information against Trump in any of the elections? They fabricated stories about him and Russia, they brought every woman they could find out of the wood works, had him detained and charged with felony white collar crimes, but didnt use the easiest smoking gun they had at their disposal to ruin his political career? Does that pass Occam's razor? “Why did they make up this other stuff if the Epstein stuff is true?” You’re so close to getting it. 1
thenorthremembers Posted July 14 Posted July 14 42 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: “Why did they make up this other stuff if the Epstein stuff is true?” You’re so close to getting it. "We did everything we could to destroy him and his career, except use the one thing we had that would have surely done it" Try again. 3
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted July 14 Posted July 14 3 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: "We did everything we could to destroy him and his career, except use the one thing we had that would have surely done it" Try again. 1
ChiGoose Posted July 14 Posted July 14 10 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: "We did everything we could to destroy him and his career, except use the one thing we had that would have surely done it" Try again. Simplest explanation: they were all true. Also, I think a lot of us are realizing that MAGA wasn’t aware of Trump’s connection to Epstein. It’s been publicly known for decades, so I’m not sure why you’d expect that reiterating it would have done anything. Had people recognized that this was a blind spot for MAGA, they may have pushed it more, but how could you predict that the people obsessed with Epstein were unaware of one of his closest friends? 1
Big Blitz Posted July 14 Posted July 14 Fact: Media and Democrats work together daily. Fact: Media gets marching orders from Democrats daily. Media asks for intel, dirt on every R. Fact: Media never receives marching orders, leaks from Democrats that tie Trump to Epstein. Not during 2016. Not during his first administration. Not during 2020. Not during 2024. They made Biden Auto Pen resign on Twitter. Harris is run and they know they’re losing. Refuse to break glass in emergency by leaking Epstein intel. Yes. Trump definitely is covering up himself. Makes as much sense as any other idea spewed by leftist trash.
thenorthremembers Posted July 14 Posted July 14 (edited) 22 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Simplest explanation: they were all true. Also, I think a lot of us are realizing that MAGA wasn’t aware of Trump’s connection to Epstein. It’s been publicly known for decades, so I’m not sure why you’d expect that reiterating it would have done anything. Had people recognized that this was a blind spot for MAGA, they may have pushed it more, but how could you predict that the people obsessed with Epstein were unaware of one of his closest friends? Except some of them were proven not to be true. If you voted for Trump and hadnt seen the photo of him with Epstein and Maxwell, you were either blind or completely stupid. Being at the same parties, having conversations, flying on the same plane, and taking pictures together is not the same as taking part in the molestation of children. Again, if there is evidence that Trump molested children why did the democrats not release that? Edited July 14 by thenorthremembers 1
B-Man Posted July 14 Posted July 14 Fact Check: Posts claim photo shows Trump and Epstein with minor girl. Here's the truth Aleksandra Wrona https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-posts-claim-photo-100000520.html? .
Big Blitz Posted July 14 Posted July 14 Just now, B-Man said: Fact Check: Posts claim photo shows Trump and Epstein with minor girl. Here's the truth Aleksandra Wrona https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-posts-claim-photo-100000520.html? . They’re all over the place. Homeloser posts them here repeatedly. 1
ChiGoose Posted July 14 Posted July 14 (edited) 23 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Except some of them were proven not to be true. If you voted for Trump and hadnt seen the photo of him with Epstein and Maxwell, you were either blind or completely stupid. Being at the same parties, having conversations, flying on the same plane, and taking pictures together is not the same as taking part in the molestation of children. Again, if there is evidence that Trump molested children why did the democrats not release that? I'd guess some combination of a variety of reasons: They wouldn't expect it to be salient since they assumed that MAGA was already aware that Trump was so close to Epstein that he's almost certainly in the files Not a great look to have Slick Willy stumping on the campaign and mention Epstein since he's also almost certainly in the files I doubt there was anyone in the party or campaign that had access to the files. They'd be at DoJ and out of reach of the politicos EDIT: Also, I don't think they would expect it to be a more important campaign issue than what they were already campaigning on. Edited July 14 by ChiGoose 1 1
Westside Posted July 14 Posted July 14 3 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: I'd guess some combination of a variety of reasons: They wouldn't expect it to be salient since they assumed that MAGA was already aware that Trump was so close to Epstein that he's almost certainly in the files Not a great look to have Slick Willy stumping on the campaign and mention Epstein since he's also almost certainly in the files I doubt there was anyone in the party or campaign that had access to the files. They'd be at DoJ and out of reach of the politicos EDIT: Also, I don't think they would expect it to be a more important campaign issue than what they were already campaigning on. This post is a bunch of biased speculation. Try harder next time.
Homelander Posted July 14 Posted July 14 5 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: If thats the case, and maybe it is, why didnt Biden and the democrats use this information against Trump in any of the elections? They fabricated stories about him and Russia, they brought every woman they could find out of the wood works, had him detained and charged with felony white collar crimes, but didnt use the easiest smoking gun they had at their disposal to ruin his political career? Does that pass Occam's razor? Let me break it down for you with facts and logic, which I know are in short supply in MAGA circles: Every time Biden or a Democrat criticizes Trump, your immediate response is “fake news” or “lawfare.” You’ve trained yourself to reject anything that doesn’t fit the cult script. You complain Democrats didn't weaponize Epstein against Trump - but you wouldn't have believed it anyway. You didn’t believe Trump incited a riot. You didn’t believe he paid hush money to a porn star. You didn’t believe the 2020 election was legit. You don't believe Russia interfered in the 2016 election. Why would you believe anything about Epstein? Let’s talk about who actually wanted the Epstein docs released. Democrats have been calling for full transparency for years. Not one major Dem said “protect Bill Clinton.” In fact, under Biden, Epstein-related documents were unsealed. Bill Clinton’s name was in them. Biden could’ve stopped that release but didn’t. Jeffrey Epstein: documents linking associates to sex offender unsealed Epstein died in 2019 during Trump's first term. If this supposed "client list" was the silver bullet, why didn’t Trump release it when he had full control of the DOJ, the FBI, and the White House? Why not release it before the 2020 election? Or when he still had Congress? Trump is the one who promised to release the Epstein list and never did. Not Biden Not Kamala TRUMP And now that Trump is back in power? He’s still not releasing it. He’s letting people like Pam Bondi spin already-unsealed court documents to feed your outrage addiction without giving you any actual truth. Ask yourself this: if Democrats really feared this list, why are they the ones demanding it be public? Demand a vote in Congress to release every sealed Epstein document. Let’s see who objects. Let’s see which party protects predators. Spoiler: it won’t be Democrats. 1 2 1
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted July 14 Posted July 14 3 minutes ago, Homelander said: Let me break it down for you with facts and logic, which I know are in short supply in MAGA circles: Every time Biden or a Democrat criticizes Trump, your immediate response is “fake news” or “lawfare.” You’ve trained yourself to reject anything that doesn’t fit the cult script. You complain Democrats didn't weaponize Epstein against Trump - but you wouldn't have believed it anyway. You didn’t believe Trump incited a riot. You didn’t believe he paid hush money to a porn star. You didn’t believe the 2020 election was legit. You don't believe Russia interfered in the 2016 election. Why would you believe anything about Epstein? Let’s talk about who actually wanted the Epstein docs released. Democrats have been calling for full transparency for years. Not one major Dem said “protect Bill Clinton.” In fact, under Biden, Epstein-related documents were unsealed. Bill Clinton’s name was in them. Biden could’ve stopped that release but didn’t. Jeffrey Epstein: documents linking associates to sex offender unsealed Epstein died in 2019 during Trump's first term. If this supposed "client list" was the silver bullet, why didn’t Trump release it when he had full control of the DOJ, the FBI, and the White House? Why not release it before the 2020 election? Or when he still had Congress? Trump is the one who promised to release the Epstein list and never did. Not Biden Not Kamala TRUMP And now that Trump is back in power? He’s still not releasing it. He’s letting people like Pam Bondi spin already-unsealed court documents to feed your outrage addiction without giving you any actual truth. Ask yourself this: if Democrats really feared this list, why are they the ones demanding it be public? Demand a vote in Congress to release every sealed Epstein document. Let’s see who objects. Let’s see which party protects predators. Spoiler: it won’t be Democrats. I bet you quoted the Lincoln project a few times?
JDHillFan Posted July 14 Posted July 14 (edited) 4 hours ago, ChiGoose said: I doubt there was anyone in the party or campaign that had access to the files. They'd be at DoJ and out of reach of the politicos Oh my. You are being serious with this, aren’t you? Surely no one in DoJ would have been helpful in trying to paint Trump as a pedo. They are above politics even when they are facing an existential threat to democracy. This is almost as good as you blaming staffers for Joe having lifted so much classified info in his time. Edited July 14 by JDHillFan
GaryPinC Posted July 14 Posted July 14 On 7/12/2025 at 9:42 AM, muppy said: SO. "theoretically" there is evidence of both party politicians in the said now *allegedly destroyed files on Jeffrey Epstein. This smells SO bad u guys. to High HEAVEN Nefarious conduct in the death of Jeffrey Epstein *Gasp* lol really. Yeah I'd say that is trending positive. pfft what is in the dark may never come to light. IN THIS CASE I am not expecting to see ANYTHING at this point. It's all a big fooking MESS. is naranja respobsible? I don't know but it smells like he could have profited from it. and he is such a WINNING Businessman don't u know @-@ this reads SO Hollywood film next Theater drama release of political intrigue Except we are right in the middle of the crock of MIERDA Liar Liar Pants on FIre. this story is a debacle that wont stop. Good Gravy. Thank you. This is the elephant that really explains everything but people continue to try and argue their political side is innocent and the other guilty.😂 Why didn't Trump release it? Why didn't Biden release it? It's called collateral damage, probably also exposes too much of the swamp and also Trump's lie that he somehow is not a member.😂 2
reddogblitz Posted July 14 Posted July 14 5 hours ago, ChiGoose said: Not a great look to have Slick Willy stumping on the campaign and mention Epstein since he's also almost certainly in the files This is my theory too. You really think President Trump was Jeff's only friend that he has pictures or whatever of? Think they're all Democrats? I am not even saying President Trump was involved with the pedophilia. Maybe he was maybe he wasn't but enough bigwigs on BOTH sides were. That's what's holding this up. That's why President Biden didn't release it and why No member of congress has introduced a bill to have it released. Even President Trump has said as much when he said it would ruin a lot of lives if released. It is rich that in this case President Trump is all the sudden concerned about ruining someone's life. For those of us old enough to remember, a very similar case happened in the 1990s when madam Heidi Fleiss' client list allegedly containing the names of prominent members of congress was discovered and threatened to be released. However it was quashed and never saw the light of day. If it exists, this stuff will never see the light of day either.
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