ALF Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 Yikes Biden is the real law and order guy ? just kidding
Deranged Rhino Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 Just now, ALF said: Yikes Biden is the real law and order guy ? just kidding That's just him defending the Crime Bill. The bill that did more to tilt the system against brown, black, and poor folk than any other piece of legislation since Reconstruction. He spent nearly 50 years in office tilting the system against those folk, then getting into bed with the credit card companies to bury the working class in credit card debt they'd never crawl out of. But this time he'll be different. This time No Chance Joe will be for the people, not his own bank account, right? He's the worst candidate you could run in this moment in time, all due to his record. 3
Doc Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Warren Zevon said: Oh boy! He left his basement after 3 months. What a man! 1 2
Buffalo_Gal Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Speaking from the position of a higher wage earner I can assure you that my taxes were NOT cut by Donald Trump. They actually went way up! His elimination of the state and local write off absolutely hammered my return this year. Tax cuts for the rich is 100% FAKE NEWS. Ditto. 2 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: That's because you live in a high tax state run by Democrats. States that have high real estate, sales and income taxes that exceed the federal deduction amounts screw their citizens not only on the first bite but with the second bite by the feds also. Give a great big assist to the "public service" unions. Yes, I know. 2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: That’s absolutely correct. And many/most of the country’s higher wage earners live in these states. The idea that Trump favored the rich is absurd. What he actually did was to see if his policies would make the system fairer across the board by telling these high tax states you can’t get off paying federal taxes by allowing your citizens to swap their federal tax for local taxes. I’m actually in favor of his policy even though it hurt me badly! #metoo 1
Buffalo_Gal Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 Just now, Doc said: Elder abuse. I have been saying it for a while now. At first it was amusing, then it became obvious that this man has a cognitive issue. It is indeed elder abuse. And to think this man has a chance (slim though it may be) to become President of the United States? Frightening does not begin to express it. 1
transplantbillsfan Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 7 hours ago, Keukasmallies said: Whoa, now there's a racist question given the currtent national atmosphere! The assumptions behind that question just leap out to be recognized. You need to be able to distinguish between races in order to talk about race.
Deranged Rhino Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 Just now, transplantbillsfan said: You need to be able to distinguish between races in order to talk about race. "You need to have some degree of competency in racism in order to talk about race." Fixed that for you. 1
transplantbillsfan Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Koko78 said: Wow, quite literally none of this reflects the reality of this forum. Fixed it for ya
Deranged Rhino Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 @transplantbillsfan doesn't want to talk about Biden's long support of Byrd... nope. Can't do that without coming to the realization that No Chance Joe is the wrong guy for this moment, if you truly care about fixing "systemic injustice". Then again, Trans doesn't really care about that. At all. If he did, he'd renounce Joe. But he won't. 2
Doc Brown Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 4 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Speaking from the position of a higher wage earner I can assure you that my taxes were NOT cut by Donald Trump. They actually went way up! His elimination of the state and local write off absolutely hammered my return this year. Tax cuts for the rich is 100% FAKE NEWS. Democrats passed law to repeal SALT tax last December and increased the top federal income bracket back to 39.6%. It died in the Senate. The irony is that Democrats actually wanted to lower federal taxes on the wealthy in blue states. On average though across the US the tax reform bill absolutely benefits the wealthy the most. Just pure math alone should tell you that.
SoCal Deek Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Doc Brown said: Democrats passed law to repeal SALT tax last December and increased the top federal income bracket back to 39.6%. It died in the Senate. The irony is that Democrats actually wanted to lower federal taxes on the wealthy in blue states. On average though across the US the tax reform bill absolutely benefits the wealthy the most. Just pure math alone should tell you that. Thanks Doc...but your version of the math did not apply to my tax return. My taxes went up.
Orlando Buffalo Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Democrats passed law to repeal SALT tax last December and increased the top federal income bracket back to 39.6%. It died in the Senate. The irony is that Democrats actually wanted to lower federal taxes on the wealthy in blue states. On average though across the US the tax reform bill absolutely benefits the wealthy the most. Just pure math alone should tell you that. As a straight tax return goes you would be correct but to anyone who makes 500k and up, especially those over 5 million, the rate is less important than deductions and Trump's plan currently limits deductions so that most people on the high end of tax bracket paid more. Warren Buffett is famous for making sure he has as many deductions as possible to lower his rate to equal to mine.
Deranged Rhino Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 He's a disaster. The more he speaks, the more he reveals his shortcomings. 2 1
3rdnlng Posted June 11, 2020 Author Posted June 11, 2020 50 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Democrats passed law to repeal SALT tax last December and increased the top federal income bracket back to 39.6%. It died in the Senate. The irony is that Democrats actually wanted to lower federal taxes on the wealthy in blue states. On average though across the US the tax reform bill absolutely benefits the wealthy the most. Just pure math alone should tell you that. As a resident of NYS I would think that you have a concern about the high state taxes. Limiting the deductions allowed on federal taxes by limiting state tax deductions helps keep the states from getting out of control with taxes. Without a limit, states can just keep raising taxes with less harm to the residents by taking part of that increase from the feds. 1
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