Fear The Walking Dead

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

well  Nothing too too exciting. (yet)

 

we may have the answer to .. Has Negan "evolved" ?  

That kid had short term companion written all over him.  what a prick Kudos Negan 

 

People getting ill. 

The King ...  the next "main"(ish) character to exit? 

 

Who is the intended victim of the creek scenes? 

 

Whisperer's Come out and PLAYYYYY 

 

[shrader]

38 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

well  Nothing too too exciting. (yet)

 

 

I don't know, the nut tapping lecture was thrilling stuff.  Seriously, that whole scene was pure gold.

 

38 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

Who is the intended victim of the creek scenes? 

 

They've done it a few times on the show, but we still have no idea if the tainted water or food will actually do anything to you.  There was the walker in the well in season 2.  The canibals eating Bob's tainted leg in season 5 (?).  But then you've got people walking around covered in walker blood and guts and being completely fine.  And didn't someone freak out at some point after having blood drip into their mouth?  So we have absolutely no idea if it actually does anything to you.  But if they're fine after being covered in the stuff, I doubt highly diluted blood in a river will do much either.

 

The interesting thing there though is that they teased a bit that Gamma is actually having issues with Alpha.  That's a quick change given how quick she was to off her own sister.

 

But yes, it should get very interesting now with Negan in place.  I won't get spoilery, but I hope it goes in a different route than where the comics did.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

30 minutes ago, shrader said:

The interesting thing there though is that they teased a bit that Gamma is actually having issues with Alpha.  That's a quick change given how quick she was to off her own sister

 

which was a point in my question,  

Who is the intended target?    The whisperers or the Rick Grimeites?  

I was trying to not toss a spoiler out in case someone hasn't viewed it yet 

 

Gamma can try .... Gamma gonna fail 

 

[shrader]

1 hour ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

 

which was a point in my question,  

Who is the intended target?    The whisperers or the Rick Grimeites?  

I was trying to not toss a spoiler out in case someone hasn't viewed it yet 

 

Gamma can try .... Gamma gonna fail 

 

 

Ahh, so you think she could be poisoning their own water supply?  I hadn't thought of that.  She'd be hurting her own supply as well though.  I'd say those scenes played out as if Alpha was sending her to do it.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Gamma is afraid of Alpha and Beta   but hates them for killing her sister 

They know there is a better way to live 

 

Edited November 5, 2019 by SlimShady'sGhost

[4merper4mer]

22 hours ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

Gamma is afraid of Alpha and Beta   but hates then for killing her sister 

They know there is a better way to live 

 

Lol Alpha wants Gamma to lure Aaron with her feminine wiles.  

 

If Maggie couldn't do it, Gamma can't.  Throw in the skin mask and odds get even lower.

[shrader]

2 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

Lol Alpha wants Gamma to lure Aaron with her feminine wiles.  

 

If Maggie couldn't do it, Gamma can't.  Throw in the skin mask and odds get even lower.

 

But what if the mask came from a man?

[4merper4mer]

14 minutes ago, shrader said:

 

But what if the mask came from a man?

He was crawling through sewers with Maggie who was rolling around writhing with dead guys.  If that didn't do it for him, a stationary mask isn't going to do it.  Granted, Gamma is more attractive with mask than sans mask, but still....not enough.

[shrader]

17 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

He was crawling through sewers with Maggie who was rolling around writhing with dead guys.  If that didn't do it for him, a stationary mask isn't going to do it.  Granted, Gamma is more attractive with mask than sans mask, but still....not enough.

 

What if she's wearing an Eric mask?

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

18 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

He was crawling through sewers with Maggie who was rolling around writhing with dead guys.  If that didn't do it for him, a stationary mask isn't going to do it.  Granted, Gamma is more attractive with mask than sans mask, but still....not enough.

      

 

I said the same damn thing  during the dhow

 

[4merper4mer]

1 minute ago, shrader said:

 

What if she's wearing an Eric mask?

That guy was pretty skinny and Gamma has a big noggin.  I'm not sure how elastic those things are.  It might look like Eric with a facelift and Aaron doesn't seem to go for the phony types who would get a facelift.

4 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

      

 

I said the same damn thing  during the dhow

 

The same goes for Alpha and Beta.  I wonder if this is a pre-req.. Gamma's sister wasn't bad......then they killed her.

[shrader]

2 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

That guy was pretty skinny and Gamma has a big noggin.  I'm not sure how elastic those things are.  It might look like Eric with a facelift and Aaron doesn't seem to go for the phony types who would get a facelift.

 

 

Fortunately there's a very easy test for the elasticity of skin.  Go eat 100 twinkies a day for two months and get back to me.

[4merper4mer]

21 minutes ago, shrader said:

 

Fortunately there's a very easy test for the elasticity of skin.  Go eat 100 twinkies a day for two months and get back to me.

I'm up to 37 since reading your post but I don't think I can keep up the pace.  Until January?  No way.  How many twinkles does a hamster have to eat to simulate 100 for a person?  Maybe Sammy can do this.

 

 

What is this supposed to prove anyway?

[That's No Moon]

3 hours ago, shrader said:

 

Fortunately there's a very easy test for the elasticity of skin.  Go eat 100 twinkies a day for two months and get back to me.

He's alive though. What if I crammed those twinkies into some Italian loafers every day?

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Nice episode last night. a couple quick comments 

 

Negan is working his magic.

 

My theory of the Whisperers poisoning of the water source for Alexandria may some to fruition

 

Not being a comic book reader 

 

 

On line story - Eugene sets the stage for The Commonwealth ??? 

Rosita was missing the Mullet 

[dpberr]

1 hour ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

Nice episode last night. a couple quick comments 

 

Negan is working his magic.

 

My theory of the Whisperers poisoning of the water source for Alexandria may some to fruition

 

Not being a comic book reader 

 

 

On line story - Eugene sets the stage for The Commonwealth ??? 

Rosita was missing the Mullet 

 

Interesting episode but the TWD writers treat the viewers like idiots for the sake of story.  Even the crudest water purification has been around since the 1600s.  You don't need to be Captain Steven J. Survivalist to know not to drink raw water from the stream.

 

Yet...Carol is still making coffee on a gas stove.  Who's delivering the propane?  Haha

 

My theory is the Commonwealth is the C in CRM.  (helicopter people)

[shrader]

1 hour ago, dpberr said:

My theory is the Commonwealth is the C in CRM.  (helicopter people)

 

And then of course there's the people that Maggie is off with.  You don't bring in a fairly recognizable actress for the role of their leader only to use her in one single episode.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

36 minutes ago, shrader said:

 

And then of course there's the people that Maggie is off with.  You don't bring in a fairly recognizable actress for the role of their leader only to use her in one single episode.

possibly  but ....   Eugenius would have known about Georgie and vise versa though. 

 

Cameos happen a lot in TV shows.  Most of the time they are hidden under Zombie makeup  

[4merper4mer]

On November 5, 2019 at 5:38 PM, That's No Moon said:

He's alive though. What if I crammed those twinkies into some Italian loafers every day?

Update: I tried this and they tasted gross.

[Sundancer]

In terms of keeping the show going post-Rick, it seems like the path forward is making Neegan into a big player again. That episode was the first one in a while that was good. The plot moved along towards new things for the first time in a while: (1) Eugene's 1-900 friend, (2) Capturing a Whisperer, (3) Neegan's insertion into the Whisperer freakshow, which injected some much-needed fun back into the show (his line last week, "What's a guy gotta do to get eaten around here" is classic.)

 

The poisoning is a dull sidelight with some predictable outcomes...a few people will die and there will be a mass internal killing of walkers. There will be a revolt to attack the Whisperers once they know what's going on. Yada yada. 

 

Thank you to the person who noted that Carol was cooking on a propane/gas stove. I didn't catch that. Fantastic. 

 

I expect one of the next episodes will be back to the boring kingdom of they dying King and the Gamma-Tinman relationship (yawn central). That crew can all end up dead along with the musical guy, and the 2ish deaf people, none of which have made any impression on the plot except to give Daryl a momentary love interest (yawnx2). We probably won't see Maggie until the last 5 minutes of the last episode this season, when she pulls up in a TESLA or lands in a Harrier.

Edited November 13, 2019 by Sundancer

[shrader]

I could watch an entire series made out of Negan/Beta interactions.  That can be their sitcom spinoff from the series.  It's pure gold.

 

The one thing I don't get about Beta is that at one point he seems to be so concerned about "their people" but then in the next he's slitting the throat of a random red shirt in hopes of killing Negan too.  You get the outcome you're hoping for, don't lose a single member of the pack, and Alpha's none the wiser.  Your TV show is over though, so obviously they can't do that.  I just wish they wrote up a better plan there.

[Gary M]

48 minutes ago, Sundancer said:

The poisoning is a dull sidelight with some predictable outcomes...a few people will die and there will be a mass internal killing of walkers. There will be a revolt to attack the Whisperers once they know what's going on. Yada yada. 

 

Aaron saw what she was doing, I would think he would warn them not to drink the water?

9 minutes ago, shrader said:

I could watch an entire series made out of Negan/Beta interactions.  That can be their sitcom spinoff from the series.  It's pure gold.

 

The one thing I don't get about Beta is that at one point he seems to be so concerned about "their people" but then in the next he's slitting the throat of a random red shirt in hopes of killing Negan too.  You get the outcome you're hoping for, don't lose a single member of the pack, and Alpha's none the wiser.  Your TV show is over though, so obviously they can't do that.  I just wish they wrote up a better plan there.

 

The random guy offered Negan some food, so he was punished.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

25 minutes ago, Gary M said:

 

Aaron saw what she was doing, I would think he would warn them not to drink the water?

 

The random guy offered Negan some food, so he was punished.

 

I caught the Aaron siting too.   HE seemed more interested in making a peace than thinking why she was doing it.  

 

 

 

Was he punished?   I don't recall.  

[shrader]

47 minutes ago, Gary M said:

 

Aaron saw what she was doing, I would think he would warn them not to drink the water?

 

I don't think they're worried about the water.  I bet the sickness winds up being something else.  The way walkers wonder around and get trapped everywhere, that river has to already be full of them.

 

47 minutes ago, Gary M said:

 

The random guy offered Negan some food, so he was punished.

 

Ahhh, it was that guy?  That makes sense.  That's one problem with the whisperers, other than 3 characters, they're a giant see of faceless/nameless red shirts.

[Gary M]

1 hour ago, shrader said:

 

I don't think they're worried about the water.  I bet the sickness winds up being something else.  The way walkers wonder around and get trapped everywhere, that river has to already be full of them.

 

 

Ahhh, it was that guy?  That makes sense.  That's one problem with the whisperers, other than 3 characters, they're a giant see of faceless/nameless red shirts.

 

Yeah, he had a quiver of arrows on his back, that made him stand out to me.

2 hours ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

Was he punished?   I don't recall.  

 

Beta slit his throat.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

1 hour ago, shrader said:

 

I don't think they're worried about the water.  I bet the sickness winds up being something else.  The way walkers wonder around and get trapped everywhere, that river has to already be full of them.

 

 

Alpha said about strategy  and she mentioned taking land, the water and the tree.  

8 minutes ago, Gary M said:

 

Yeah, he had a quiver of arrows on his back, that made him stand out to me.

 

Beta slit his throat.

 

I recalled it was because he had an original thought and democracy prevailed in alphas favor 

I guess I was incorrect 

Edited November 13, 2019 by SlimShady'sGhost

[That's No Moon]

8 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

Update: I tried this and they tasted gross.

The loafers or the twinkies?

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

I knew it.  (sort of)

 

the traitor / whisperer infiltrator has been identified 

 

[shrader]

A question for those familiar with the comics.  Don't worry if you're not, I'll keep it spoiler-free.  There are so many stories in motion right now.  They can't possible follow that storyline right now, can they?

 

And last night's reveal was a bit odd.  Lydia knew the captured whisperer but has never had any clue who Dante is?  I'm sure they'll follow up on that a bit.  He must be pretty close with Alpha if he's cool spending time around not dead Lydia.  His comment during the fight, something along the lines of not wanting it to be like this, made it seem like he was coming around to their way of life a bit.  But if that's the case, why's he sabotaging the water system (and what's he drinking)?  Is it so simple as thinking that they can convert most of these people to the pack life?

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

3 hours ago, shrader said:

A question for those familiar with the comics.  Don't worry if you're not, I'll keep it spoiler-free.  There are so many stories in motion right now.  They can't possible follow that storyline right now, can they?

 

And last night's reveal was a bit odd.  Lydia knew the captured whisperer but has never had any clue who Dante is?  I'm sure they'll follow up on that a bit.  He must be pretty close with Alpha if he's cool spending time around not dead Lydia.  His comment during the fight, something along the lines of not wanting it to be like this, made it seem like he was coming around to their way of life a bit.  But if that's the case, why's he sabotaging the water system (and what's he drinking)?  Is it so simple as thinking that they can convert most of these people to the pack life?

 

Well, I guess it all depends on when Dante became a whisperer. 

If it was after Lydia had left or before.  

 

 

why didn't the prisoner see Lydia?  Was he blindfolded when she was told to leave the cell? 

 

there were 3 or 4 taps.  He only messed with one of them and knew not to drink from it. 

 

Saddiq was always using the spigot closest to the houses 

 

[shrader]

1 hour ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

 

Well, I guess it all depends on when Dante became a whisperer. 

If it was after Lydia had left or before.  

 

 

That really doesn't allow for much of a time window.  You never can tell with this show, but from Lydia's capture up until the fair/beheading, that was what, at most a couple months?  That's an awfully short amount of time to be won over by that lifestyle, especially when compared to Alexandria.  Like I said earlier though, it did look like he was being won over a bit during his time with Sadiq.  Maybe he's just playing both sides so that he has a home no matter who wins.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

28 minutes ago, shrader said:

 

That really doesn't allow for much of a time window.  You never can tell with this show, but from Lydia's capture up until the fair/beheading, that was what, at most a couple months?  That's an awfully short amount of time to be won over by that lifestyle, especially when compared to Alexandria.  Like I said earlier though, it did look like he was being won over a bit during his time with Sadiq.  Maybe he's just playing both sides so that he has a home no matter who wins.

 

the Mid Season Finale preview shows Daryl beating on someone after they show Dante in a chair and  a bloody lip then Dante in the cell.

 

the ruse is over 

 

 

 

Edited November 18, 2019 by SlimShady'sGhost

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Dante got last rights from the Preacher 

 

 Why Carol why!!!

 

What or who is Virgil?

 

[dpberr]

9 hours ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

Dante got last rights from the Preacher 

 

 Why Carol why!!!

 

What or who is Virgil?

 

Virgil isn't in the books.  

 

My theory:  He's the deus ex machina to three plots:

 

1.  Reintroduction of modern weaponry that will neutralize the horde;

2.  Provides the entry to the next chapter as said weaponry will be owned by CRM;

3.  Likely provides some tantalizing clue that Rick was there - and that will be the exit for the Michonne character.  

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

24 minutes ago, dpberr said:

Virgil isn't in the books.  

 

My theory:  He's the deus ex machina to three plots:

 

1.  Reintroduction of modern weaponry that will neutralize the horde;

2.  Provides the entry to the next chapter as said weaponry will be owned by CRM;

3.  Likely provides some tantalizing clue that Rick was there - and that will be the exit for the Michonne character.  

 

I was wondering how long the Michonne character will remain myself. 

[shrader]

2 hours ago, dpberr said:

Virgil isn't in the books.  

 

My theory:  He's the deus ex machina to three plots:

 

1.  Reintroduction of modern weaponry that will neutralize the horde;

2.  Provides the entry to the next chapter as said weaponry will be owned by CRM;

3.  Likely provides some tantalizing clue that Rick was there - and that will be the exit for the Michonne character.  

 

They're heading towards a naval base.  That seems like an awfully convenient place for helicopters to be taking off from.  I doubt we see any  modern weaponry reintroduced for the Whisperer war because my guess is that Michonne won't be returning from this trip.  Like you said, this will lead her off towards Rick.

 

I want to know who will wind up raising Judith and RJ now.  I don't like the thought of her leaving them, but I think they're shoe horned into it at this point.  I hope she has some sort of zombie apocalypse will that says "anyone but Carol".

[dpberr]

1 hour ago, shrader said:

 

They're heading towards a naval base.  That seems like an awfully convenient place for helicopters to be taking off from.  I doubt we see any  modern weaponry reintroduced for the Whisperer war because my guess is that Michonne won't be returning from this trip.  Like you said, this will lead her off towards Rick.

 

I want to know who will wind up raising Judith and RJ now.  I don't like the thought of her leaving them, but I think they're shoe horned into it at this point.  I hope she has some sort of zombie apocalypse will that says "anyone but Carol".

 

If we assume that the media reports are real that there are two seasons left in TWD,  my theory is that CRM is three communities in an uneasy alliance and Alexandria/Hilltop will spend those seasons figuring out which side they are on.  It's likely Maggie and Rick are at one or both.  

 

I'd think they'd want to make that Michonne good bye extra sappy or Judith goes with her, maybe.  

[4merper4mer]

9 hours ago, dpberr said:

 

If we assume that the media reports are real that there are two seasons left in TWD,  my theory is that CRM is three communities in an uneasy alliance and Alexandria/Hilltop will spend those seasons figuring out which side they are on.  It's likely Maggie and Rick are at one or both.  

 

I'd think they'd want to make that Michonne good bye extra sappy or Judith goes with her, maybe.  

I think she'll be back with weapons for a last hurrah and then take the kids to look for Rick.

 

I do think the new show, the last 2 seasons of the main show, the movies and fear will all be looking at the three ring group from different angles which will culminate in the last movie.  People in the last movie will be:

 

Rick. All 3 movies

Michonne all 3

Their kids all 3

Carol last movie only

Darryl last movie only

Some people from the new show 2 and 3

Maybe Maggie ?

Morgan 3 maybe the end of 2

Alicia same

Daniel same 

Althea same

Dwight same

Sherry same 

 Negan 2 and 3

 

I think Jadis will die at the end of the first movie

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

17 hours ago, dpberr said:

 

If we assume that the media reports are real that there are two seasons left in TWD,  my theory is that CRM is three communities in an uneasy alliance and Alexandria/Hilltop will spend those seasons figuring out which side they are on.  It's likely Maggie and Rick are at one or both.  

 

I'd think they'd want to make that Michonne good bye extra sappy or Judith goes with her, maybe.  

 

The Maggie thing is curious because IF she was with the group with Rick, she'd convey that info to Hilltop which she supposedly has communications with. or so I recall.

 

If the show will end in a season or two RJ will go for sure.  Judith is a much more important part of the show and fan base. Not that they worry about knocking off favorites. 

[shrader]

1 hour ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

 

The Maggie thing is curious because IF she was with the group with Rick, she'd convey that info to Hilltop which she supposedly has communications with. or so I recall.

 

If the show will end in a season or two RJ will go for sure.  Judith is a much more important part of the show and fan base. Not that they worry about knocking off favorites. 

 

Wasn't there some talk about how communication with Maggie had dropped off right before the Whisperers show up.  For whatever reason, I seem to remember Jesus mentioning it.  I guess we'll find out about here soon enough, whether she shows up late in the season or for the start of the next one.  I wish they would just not mention Rick at all so that this show can be free of the movie stuff for now, but I doubt that happens.

 

As for the kids, I think they stick around because they want a Grimes connection to this show still.  But hey, I guess that means only RJ has to stick around since that's the only Grimes blood remaining.