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Just now, Koko78 said:

 

I'd wager that the media pushing the accident narrative so early was to prevent (possibly unwarranted) violence against the Muslim population. I can see the French going berserk over a terrorist attack on something so important to their culture and national identity as Notre Dame.

you may be correct. However, it's not their role in the game to make sh:t up and often it just makes thing a whole lot worse. Common sense suggests that if the cause was "construction accident", they've pinpointed the cause and more can be shared than "construction accident!". That can unravel quickly, and sane people recognize that violence would always be unwarranted.  The crazies don't like to be lied to, though in fairness they ain't always crazy about the truth either. 

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10 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:


They were having difficulty securing funds for the renovations. I cannot imagine how much money a rebuilt would take. 

Not more than we're willing to give, but at some point one has to ask, when are they responsible for their own 'world treasures'.

 

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10 hours ago, Foxx said:

 

If there's one thing you learn as a believer, it's to not form attachments to material things. Why? Because everything burns in the end. Nothing earthly, no matter how beautiful or valuable, lasts. 

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Just now, Joe in Winslow said:

 

If there's one thing you learn as a believer, it's to not form attachments to material things. Why? Because everything burns in the end. Nothing earthly, no matter how beautiful or valuable, lasts. 

Well that's pretty true.  But we can appreciate God's works through man, which that was one.  And we'll rebuild.

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18 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

If there's one thing you learn as a believer, it's to not form attachments to material things. Why? Because everything burns in the end. Nothing earthly, no matter how beautiful or valuable, lasts. 

 

This is true and not just believers can learn this. It's a lesson taught by many. 

 

It's inspiring to see how quickly people are racing to pledge rebuilding funds. Money won't be the issue on the rebuild. From what I've read so far, it seems like only some of the original timber joists may have been damaged. The Cathedral is/was in many ways a Ship of Theseus, but in particular much of what was destroyed. I look forward to seeing it someday restored to its full majesty. 

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59 minutes ago, Foxx said:

 

Never too early for you guys to speculate that's for sure. Demonize me along with Shep Smith in saying maybe we should wait until we know more.

 

Since the fire was already burning and firefighters were on the scene, that could have been anyone from someone trying to rescue artifacts to Quasimodo.

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2 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

If there's one thing you learn as a believer, it's to not form attachments to material things. Why? Because everything burns in the end. Nothing earthly, no matter how beautiful or valuable, lasts. 

You’ve clearly never been to Notre Dame. My knees literally buckled as I turned the corner and walked into the plaza for the first time. This is/was the true physical form of worship. 

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5 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

You’ve clearly never been to Notre Dame. My knees literally buckled as I turned the corner and walked into the plaza for the first time. This is/was the true physical form of worship. 

 

Let me put it to you this way:


THE temple of the Creator God has been destroyed since AD 70, and its splendor would have made Notre Dame look like a farmhouse.

 

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4 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Let me put it to you this way:


THE temple of the Creator God has been destroyed since AD 70, and its splendor would have made Notre Dame look like a farmhouse.

 

And your point is what exactly? Nobody’ saying that a building is God. The sadness is for the tremendous loss. That building is almost 4 times as old as the United States!

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1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said:

And your point is what exactly? Nobody’ saying that a building is God. The sadness is for the tremendous loss. That building is almost 4 times as old as the United States!

 

Look, I'm not contesting the historical importance of Notre Dame Cathedral. I'm just a bit numb to all the emotional outflows over it - most of which is coming from people who don't even care about the building's initial purpose.

 

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17 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

You’ve clearly never been to Notre Dame. My knees literally buckled as I turned the corner and walked into the plaza for the first time. This is/was the true physical form of worship. 

 

Interesting. I was impressed by it outside and in mostly due to its age and when viewed within the lens of time it was built, but I found nearby Saint Chapelle much more moving. 

 

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10 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Look, I'm not contesting the historical importance of Notre Dame Cathedral. I'm just a bit numb to all the emotional outflows over it - most of which is coming from people who don't even care about the building's initial purpose.

 

? What are we looking at? 

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